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Rei Darckai
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Posted - 2009.06.09 16:18:00 -
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i was coming out of a station then i was warping when i was stopped and then attacked before even getting out of the station what does CCP think of this... |

Atraxerxes
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.06.09 16:25:00 -
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Are you and WoopieDeDoo, the same person?
You're both asking similarly weird questions, but I'll take the bait.
CCP thinks you should get a 2nd account so you can;
A. Scout out when it's safe to undock.
B. Punt your undocking pilot to an undock safe spot
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C. of course help them make more money by subscribing twice
or, you can just join a real corp so you don't have to worry about flying without support.
AX
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Deryk Blacke
Minmatar VirDan Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.09 16:28:00 -
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It is funny how many things appear to support the "moar accountz" conspiracy folks. |

Rei Darckai
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Posted - 2009.06.09 16:55:00 -
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lol oo no im jsut new, cause i went to amanke which is a 0.4 and i dock to get what i bought then i came out and someone warp scarmbled me and started shooting im like WTF thats when i found out about 0.4 security but i jsut wanted to know if doing that was illigal and if i can petition or something
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Guillieme Lohran
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:40:00 -
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.5 and above and the cops (CONCORD) will come to exact revenge for you. .4 and below you takes your chances. In either case you are subject to attack whenever you undock, even in hisec, it is just a matter of whether or not your attacker wants to risk his ship.
No this is not illegal. |

Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.06.09 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Atraxerxes
CCP thinks you should get a 2nd account so you can;
A. Scout out when it's safe to undock.
B. Punt your undocking pilot to an undock safe spot
C. Have a cyno or Jamming Alt to Metagame in combat
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.09 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Originally by: Atraxerxes
CCP thinks you should get a 2nd account so you can;
A. Scout out when it's safe to undock.
B. Punt your undocking pilot to an undock safe spot
C. Have a cyno or Jamming Alt to Metagame in combat
Or maybe you should just not be an idiot and know which stations are shootout stations that are not safe to undock from? All others you can simply wait out the session change and redock. Or you could scout the undock in shuttle / noob ship / whatever.
People who die to station camps are bad.
Are you bad? |

Dario Wall
Caldari Corvus Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.10 02:50:00 -
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I'm curious.
Does anyone besides me still use the undocking bookmarks that shoot you into a safespot directly infront of the station in the direction you're heading? You're already at full speed so you warp pretty much the instant you select to head into the safespot. |

Yakumo Smith
Gallente No End To Infinity
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Posted - 2009.06.10 08:26:00 -
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The insta undocking BM's don't work as well as they used to because you get spat out at a random angle now.
I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually. |

Bloody Rabbit
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Posted - 2009.06.10 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Are you bad?
I'm very bad, I try to be as bad as I can on a daily basis. Now punish me for using big guns on innocent ships.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.06.10 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith The insta undocking BM's don't work as well as they used to because you get spat out at a random angle now.
Yeah, they don't always work, but most of the time they do if your Insta BM is around the middle of the undocking "cone" and the campers don't have hyper-high sensor strengths... |

oodin
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.10 11:35:00 -
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its called ambulation and it means someone has tampered with your ship inside the station. |

Limp Muscle
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Posted - 2009.06.10 12:39:00 -
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Or, use an Alt like me and try this tactic I learnt.
Create a Safe some 2000km, as posted above directly infront of the station exit. Do this in a noob ship first setting your med clone to said station. sooner or later the naughty boys get bored of killing noob ships.
fleet with your alt when it is nicely cloaked at the safe you made.
Undock with your main and using your alt, spam 'warp member to me.
You should see your main already in warp as the black screen disapears.
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Kaylan Jahlar
Minmatar Minmatar Industrial Limited
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Posted - 2009.06.10 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dario Wall I'm curious.
Does anyone besides me still use the undocking bookmarks that shoot you into a safespot directly infront of the station in the direction you're heading? You're already at full speed so you warp pretty much the instant you select to head into the safespot.
I do this in systems I could get ganked when exiting a station yeah.
Since you're exiting a station at full speed, you can warp instantly as soon as you can see the space. |

xong
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Darckai i was coming out of a station then i was warping when i was stopped and then attacked before even getting out of the station what does CCP think of this...
CCP thinks that is the way the game should be played. What do you think is the problem with this?
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Ferkimer Burns
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:33:00 -
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Just be prepared to fight when you jump to or undock in Amamake. The people there are mean. |

9axle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:04:00 -
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This game has a steep learning curve, and the players unforgiving of mistakes. learn from your mistakes. You have learned an important lesson about low-sec and station camps. Join a good corperation, learn and grow with them, and soon, you'll be getting kill-mail on station campers that doesn't list you as the loser. Stuff like this will happen to you again, and you'll be mad, like all of us. Keep at it, and remember, revenge is a dish best served cold.
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ferkimer Burns Just be prepared to fight when you jump to or undock in Amamake. The people there are mean.
You're Mean
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Dodgy Past
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Posted - 2009.06.11 23:53:00 -
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Used to have fun and games at the station when I was picking up and dropping off level 3 missions in Auner.
Haven't been there for a while but the local pirates were a friendly bunch always prepared to help me test my skills at getting out of dodge.
Of course I never got scrammed as the bc was purely designed to survive doing this; 3 WCS, 2x1600 plates, though it did get quite badly scratched a couple of times. |

Millimage
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.06.12 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Darckai lol oo no im jsut new, cause i went to amanke
The typo aside, I highlighted your error for you. Amamake is one of the worst (best? ) pew pew systems in empire, right alongside Rancer and Old Man Star. Go there and expect to fight, most likely overwhelming odds.
Your unfortunate fate is very much part of the game and a viable mechanic. That's just life in low sec. If you choose to go there you just have to deal with it.
In future I suggest you do some studying beforehand and don't buy stuff from stations in low sec, no matter how tempting the prices are there. Or at least go there with the mind set of 'getting shot at is going to happen'. Besides, getting shot at is fun!  |

Weurd
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Posted - 2009.06.12 09:13:00 -
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Edited by: Weurd on 12/06/2009 09:13:38
Amamake is fun i agree! Its nasty getting jumped, but if you intend on visiting the system in the future, learn the pirate factions that are there, and see whether they are docked or not. Alternatively join a corp to get support, or if you don't want to join a corp, at least make friends with NRDS corps in the area, and as long as you are not red they will probably help you if you are being station camped by reds.
Viva Amamake pirate hunting! |

Lightningshade
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Darckai i was coming out of a station then i was warping when i was stopped and then attacked before even getting out of the station what does CCP think of this...
Your barely passable as a troll. Personally I have you down as a plain moron.
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Ugly Bank
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Posted - 2009.06.15 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ugly Bank on 15/06/2009 11:52:50 What is it whith you people? Why do you always dishonour the new people asking questions? I do understand the frustration in new players not reading throught the forums and not using the search option, but why answer at all in that case? A guy asked a quiestion and almost all of you go "yeah, thats what happends if someone is as stupid as you" Why bother to answer something like that? Like get more forum answers to your logs, so people think your big and wise? I've been reading these eve forums for a + a year now, and I could point out a bunch of names, who have newer said anything important here.. Only like "yeah, your stupid as my boot". Well, I think that people who do nothing but answer these unimportant answers to people who have a important (to their self) question are the stupid ones. Or is it that some of you are conserned that you won't get any targets, if the OP gets a deacent answer? Is it that you are conserned, that if the new guys learn how to fight, you don't shine in the KB's anymore?
Ugly Anrgy |

Kara'ina
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Posted - 2009.06.15 15:03:00 -
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While ignoring all the very unhelpful remarks above I will tell you what happened and how you might avoid such a thing in the future. When you undock you get a timer so you are invulnerable for a short while, 20 seconds. If you do anything this will stop that timer and people are able to lock, warp scramble and shoot you. In high sec the consequences of their action are prompt execution and a trip home in their pod. In low sec concord stays at home although sentry guns will shoot at them.
The moment you tried getting in warp they were able to lock you and stop you from warping off. This is as designed. Now how to avoid this? You can use a fast ship that aligns and gets into warp fast. New players might use a shuttle or T1 frigate or once trained interceptors. It is helpful to fit this with inertial stabilizers, nano fibers. These help you align just a little quicker. Frigates and shuttles are also small so getting a lock on those takes a little longer. In order to get away from the station fast you could also look for a celestial object like an asteroid field or planet straight ahead and warp there at a distance. This means you do not need to turn your ship. Since sentry guns shoot at pirates in low sec only bigger ships have any chance to stay alive when shot at by sentry guns so you have a pretty good chance to get out safe without them giving time to lock you.
Warp core stabilizers can be helpful as well but getting away quicker is usually the better option as heavy interdictors can warp scramble any ship.
Besides using a small fast ship you could also make an undock bookmark. But since you might never have visited that station before and have no intention on going there again you probably don't have one. An undock bookmark is a bookmark made 1000+ km away from the station straight from the point where you undock. It works as that celestial object described above.
Oh and don't forget to wave goodbye at the idiots trying to camp the station.
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Zarroh
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Posted - 2009.06.15 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lightningshade
Your barely passable as a troll. Personally I have you down as a plain moron.
And you sound like one of those desperate forum warriors who don't have anything valuable to offer to the community (and probably to real life too)... |

Neuronai
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Posted - 2009.06.15 16:18:00 -
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I undocked in 0.0 in a Velator, and managed to get my pod popped a second or two after the screen actually loaded. |

Pierre Dumonte
Aurora Security
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Posted - 2009.06.15 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Pierre Dumonte on 15/06/2009 17:38:45
Originally by: Ugly Bank Edited by: Ugly Bank on 15/06/2009 11:52:50 What is it whith you people? Why do you always dishonour the new people asking questions? I do understand the frustration in new players not reading throught the forums and not using the search option, but why answer at all in that case? A guy asked a quiestion and almost all of you go "yeah, thats what happends if someone is as stupid as you" Why bother to answer something like that? Like get more forum answers to your logs, so people think your big and wise? I've been reading these eve forums for a + a year now, and I could point out a bunch of names, who have newer said anything important here.. Only like "yeah, your stupid as my boot". Well, I think that people who do nothing but answer these unimportant answers to people who have a important (to their self) question are the stupid ones. Or is it that some of you are conserned that you won't get any targets, if the OP gets a deacent answer? Is it that you are conserned, that if the new guys learn how to fight, you don't shine in the KB's anymore?
Ugly Anrgy
agreed. ive been on and off the forums for several years now. people sometimes genuinely want help with something and by calling them stupid, you just reflect your own intelligence. there are some good posts here, and just like in game you have to sift through the crap to get the gold. how many of you have sat in the help channel in game and actually provided help to those in need? we all play the same game and it doesnt matter if you are a pirate or industrialist, we all need help from time to time and wouldnt it be nice if you weren't called a total noob for asking.
sorry for the derailment, but wow. |

Kato Akorahil
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Posted - 2009.06.16 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Darckai i was coming out of a station then i was warping when i was stopped and then attacked before even getting out of the station what does CCP think of this...
How about : "... Hell it is eve, get used to it, if you cant.. - go to kiddy playground WoW" |

Epona Thunderhoof
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Posted - 2009.06.16 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kato Akorahil
Originally by: Rei Darckai i was coming out of a station then i was warping when i was stopped and then attacked before even getting out of the station what does CCP think of this...
How about : "... Hell it is eve, get used to it, if you cant.. - go to kiddy playground WoW"
I have had a few incidents where I have undocked, then been shot and killed before the 'fade to black' disappeared and I could react. I don't mind getting shot, but it is annoying to get destroyed without any chance to react at all. |
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