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Frendovall
Caldari
Makers Mark Industries
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.06.10 16:27:00 -
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I have uncovered a problem with exploration that has several symptoms:
- You have 4 probes completely overlapping a signature sphere but the sig does not resolve to a point - it still shows a sphere (that may get smaller)
- You move the probes closer to the sphere and the sig strength drops tremendously
- You resolve the sig but the bookmark is in the wrong location (nothing there although others find the plex)
- The sigs that you have found disappear from the scan results for no reason.
- Many more probes are required to resolve a sig.
The solution is to turn off the Resource Cache on the graphics tab, then all is OK again.
I have petitioned this.
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Future Mutant
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Posted - 2009.06.10 16:35:00 -
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**The sigs that you have found disappear from the scan results for no reason.**
The main reason for this happening is because you use a filtered scan result.
As your scanning you find signals- but the strength isnt high enough to identify the signal. Once the signal is identified it is filtered out if your filter is set to filter that type out.
The end result is a lot of your signal hits disappear when you try to probe them out. |
Frendovall
Caldari
Makers Mark Industries
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.06.10 19:58:00 -
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Yes, I am very familiar with the filters, and was not using a filter. The results I'm talking about that disappeared were Cosmic Signatures that had been scanned to 100%, these disappeared for no reason after a few minutes. This along with the other symptoms that occurred at the same time show the pattern.
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Canute Minealot
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Posted - 2009.06.10 22:37:00 -
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Let me guess, you wasn't alone at these system.
Then someone else just did this Signature, and it despawn after he warped away.
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- You have 4 probes completely overlapping a signature sphere but the sig does not resolve to a point - it still shows a sphere (that may get smaller)
a sphere means, just 1 of your 4 probes found the Sig, OR when you put all probes to close together they are to close together to triangulat a result.
reread a scanning guide should help you a bit.
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Von Kapiche
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 00:43:00 -
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To be fair, I did have a sig that disappeared today, I disabled+re-enabled the probes and it popped up again. However that's the first time I've seen that happen ever.
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Frendovall
Caldari
Makers Mark Industries
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.06.11 02:16:00 -
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Let me guess, you wasn't alone at these system.
Then someone else just did this Signature, and it despawn after he warped away.
No, I had someone else scan the same sig, and they found it, it had not despawned. We both warped to bookmarks we had just made of it (yes, the same sig), and they were not in the same place, mine didn't have the plex (not the first time that day it had happened).
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You have 4 probes completely overlapping a signature sphere but the sig does not resolve to a point - it still shows a sphere (that may get smaller)
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a sphere means, just 1 of your 4 probes found the Sig, OR when you put all probes to close together they are to close together to triangulat a result. reread a scanning guide should help you a bit.
Thanks for your helpful info... however I'm very familiar with exploration (been doing it for months) and do understand what a sphere/circle/point indicates when scanning, (I have a scanning implant even). What I was describing was when I had a small sphere showing - this should indicate that the sig is somewhere within that region, and I surround it with probes, so all completely surrounded and covered that sphere (6 probes), and it still did not resolve to a point, although I tried it repeatedly. It was recognizably screwy.
After turning off the Resource Cache everything worked fine (was an install on a new computer).
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Mehan Qualson
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:41:00 -
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I would just like to put in an observation that I've had.
Just because you have a circle/sphere, it does not mean that the actual signal is within the boundaries of this indicator.
What I've seen is that the circles/spheres are affected by deviation error. In that, the entire indicator is possibly in a deviated location.
I've tested this by using two overlapping probes (where you only get circles), note down several sigid's and visually note the location. Without moving your probes, rescan, and compare.
I was for quite a while under the impression that, once you obtained the circle/sphere indicator that you could then assume that your target is within, and then surround the indicator with your 4 probe setup and proceed to scan it down.
The thing that kept me on the wrong path for so long was, that some of the time, it works... because the deviation is small enough that the signature is within the 4 probe overlap.
Anyhow, just an observation, not sure if it is a bugged behaviour (as with the problem with the 3 probe dual sigs), or if it's intended. I know that it would make it WAY easier if it did work as described.
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