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General Newbold
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:06:00 -
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hi recently ive moved systems and in the new area, (5 places in total) i havent seen any veld or other ore respawn there was some veld there 3 days ago, but now nothing
every other system ive mined tends to respawn daily? is there any set rules?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:09:00 -
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There's a reason for that!! Yarrr!!   
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General Newbold
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:26:00 -
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this is daft, ive checked 9 systems now!
no veld!
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Mish'Kala
Minmatar FarSight Location and Recovery Services
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:29:00 -
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Roids should respawn every Down Time
A lot of the good systems are mined clean inside of a couple of hours of DT now. Mining is the new Black 
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General Newbold
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:30:00 -
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i thought they should respawn every dt too, but they havent! same yesterday too
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ShardenFreude
House of Negotiable Affection
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:34:00 -
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Roids take days (a week?) to respawn once they have popped, but if they have not been popped they gain size each downtime. Even once re-spawned, they re-spawn small, and have to grow.
This is why 0.0 veld roids grow to some really rather impressive sizes. It's also why, back when people used to mine regularly in 0.0 (you know, before the drone regions opened :) ) people used to use the mineral scanners, so they would mine the top end roids to nearly gone, then leave em, so they would grow back.
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Northern Fall
Minmatar Guild Academy Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: ShardenFreude Roids take days (a week?) to respawn once they have popped, but if they have not been popped they gain size each downtime. Even once re-spawned, they re-spawn small, and have to grow.
This is why 0.0 veld roids grow to some really rather impressive sizes. It's also why, back when people used to mine regularly in 0.0 (you know, before the drone regions opened :) ) people used to use the mineral scanners, so they would mine the top end roids to nearly gone, then leave em, so they would grow back.
Thats like, gardening with lasers. 
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: ShardenFreude Roids take days (a week?) to respawn once they have popped
It's not as categorical as that. I have seen systems where belts could be completely cleaned out on a daily basis and then respawn the next (I should know — I cleaned them out, and every day, new roids would appear at my "good spot" bookmarks). I have only heard about the kinds of slow respawns you talk about.
The answer, it has been hinted at, is in the highly mysterious respawn algorithm used by CCP, which seems to include such variables as number of miners vs. number of passers-through vs. the overall occupancy vs. whoknows…
At any rate, categorical statements along the lines of "asteroid X only respawns every Y days (or only on days A, B and C)" are categorically false.  ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |

Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.11 13:47:00 -
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The solution might be to mine in low sec
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.11 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 11/06/2009 14:35:07
Originally by: Northern Fall
Thats like, gardening with lasers. 
Back in 04 in xetic many ppl have gotten so obsessed with this that corps grew grudges over others because of popped roids, im sure it wasnt the only alliance where this happened. |
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Taaketa Frist
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Taaketa Frist on 11/06/2009 15:07:16 *sigh*
This comes up every year and every year I have to give some sort of lecture on it.
Asteroids respawn every Monday and Friday
In the past Ore would respawn 3 times a week, Monday, Wednesday and Saturday.
There was no variation this depending on region. Contary to belief, there is no algorithem that increases spawn tables or decrease depending on traffic or amount mined in systems. If you wish to contracdict this, please provide a coherant accuracte study of a particular system and tell us where it is so it can be verify, otherwise please take your urban legands elsewhere.
Asteroid History In 2003 and early 2004 asteroids used to respawn with a little bit of ore in them, say no more than 500 units. This happned 3 times a week. However if roids where left alone they would gain 500 units PER DAY of their active life. So Alliances would only mine as much as the needed from the roid and would not pop it, as they gained more ore from the roid instead of popping it.
Asteroid Gardening Cira 2003/2004 (Its been so long I can't remember now) Asteroids used to spawn based on Sec level/abundance of already existing asteroids and pure random chance.
If you popped an asteroid the spawning table would run a check through the belt to check the abundances of the remaining roids in the belt (if any). Either by luck or random chance you could get nearly up to half a belt filled with Ark or Bist roids to mine this could done by constantly elimating the lower end ores from the belt. This technique was known as Gardening.
There were various types of Garden as well, Hem, Orche, Bist, Ark. This is why people also did not like popping asteroids as you had the chance of losing that high end asteroid and getting it replaced with a low end asteroid instead.
Modern Day However as far as I am aware, and I have not bothered to conduct a study on this since, spawning tables are now fixed. You will get an asteroid that will spawn on a Monday and you will get an asteroid that will spawn on a Friday that will have the equvilant amount of ore as if it had not been mined between those days. So you actually get a bigger benefit of popping the asteroid before the following respawn day for more ore. |

Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.11 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Taaketa Frist Asteroids respawn every Monday and Friday
This is incorrect. I have conducted tests myself which show that respawns can happen every day. This has been done (per your request) in Umokka, Waskisen, and Tsuguwa.
Quote: There was no variation this depending on region. Contary to belief, there is no algorithem that increases spawn tables or decrease depending on traffic or amount mined in systems.
CCP hints (in the thread that promped me to conduct said tests) say otherwise. No, I have no link to it, but eve-search should provide some answers for you (it's about a year old, though, so some digging will be required). |

Kulmid
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Taaketa Frist
Asteroids respawn every Monday and Friday
This is 100% correct.
I was surprised it took this far down in the thread for someone to finally say this.
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Ryhss
Caldari Conflictus Morte
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: General Newbold i thought they should respawn every dt too, but they havent! same yesterday too
They should respawn every 3-4 hours. Or 6, like twice a day.
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Boris Varshavsky
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:20:00 -
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have you checked your overview?? :P
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: Taaketa Frist Asteroids respawn every Monday and Friday
This is 100% correct.
It wasn't true (roughly) two months ago; it wasn't true a year ago. If it ha changed since then or was different before then, then maybe, but I have personally tested it and seen that it is not true, at least not as a categorical statement.
Respawns can and will happen any day of the week — I tested it back then (and even found the thread), and did the same a few months ago when the topic came up again with the same result. There may be some ores in some systems/regions/seclevels/circumstances that are restricted to particular days, but I have never seen that in my High-sec/Caldari-space testing. |

Delphen Gruss
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.11 19:26:00 -
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I dunno about any of the theory's in this thread, but from my personal experience, they respawn every day. Our corp did a mining op recentlty, and cleared out 4 belts in 1 system, completely of every rock. Every single belt came back the next day, with the expected amount of ore in it.
I have noticed though, that if rocks are left for a few days, they will gain ore value in the rocks. |

Johnny Darkseid
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.06.11 19:48:00 -
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Ore respawns instantly in missions. 
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2009.06.11 19:57:00 -
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In the 0.5 Lonetrek system that I mined regularly between Aug 2008 and May 2009, the rocks would respawn daily. By primetime EST, which is 0:00 EvE time, all the veld rocks were gone. |

Jon Archqus
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Posted - 2009.06.11 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Jon Archqus on 11/06/2009 19:59:57 Ore respawns daily in .08 and up systems. .07 and down it respawns when ever it respawns..
The problem is you need to be on after DT other wise most high busy high sec systems will be mined out rather quickly. That or get your self an Orca so you can mine in systems with no stations. |
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:28:00 -
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My ore respawns every day, then again i live in WH space and farm the grav sites lol
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Kulmid
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: Taaketa Frist Asteroids respawn every Monday and Friday
This is 100% correct.
It wasn't true (roughly) two months ago; it wasn't true a year ago. If it ha changed since then or was different before then, then maybe, but I have personally tested it and seen that it is not true, at least not as a categorical statement.
Respawns can and will happen any day of the week ù I tested it back then (and even found the thread), and did the same a few months ago when the topic came up again with the same result. There may be some ores in some systems/regions/seclevels/circumstances that are restricted to particular days, but I have never seen that in my High-sec/Caldari-space testing.
All you did was link to a thread of you saying the exact same thing you are now, which really proves nothing. I have not tested in Caldari high sec like you claim to have, but I can tell you with 100% certainty if you go to Great Wildlands and pop the Arkonor asteroids, they will only respawn on Mondays and Fridays.
Would really be nice to get an official CCP statement on this once and for all.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.12 05:09:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 12/06/2009 05:12:25
Originally by: Kulmid All you did was link to a thread of you saying the exact same thing you are now, which really proves nothing. I have not tested in Caldari high sec like you claim to have, but I can tell you with 100% certainty if you go to Great Wildlands and pop the Arkonor asteroids, they will only respawn on Mondays and Fridays.
Maybe so, but that goes both ways: I can say with 100% certainty that asteroids in Caldari highsec respawn every day. This means that I can say with certainty that categorical statements such as the one Taaketa Frist made are wrong. |

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.12 05:15:00 -
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Legend is that before the server comes back up the devs allow Chribba's veld fleet to move across Eve and mine all the veld before they start it up |

Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.12 07:47:00 -
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0.7 down - Friday and monday. 0.8 up - daily. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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