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Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dohl Khrensen on 11/06/2009 21:15:37
There are a lot of issues surrounding Faction Warfare as it is currently implemented, as evidenced by the multitude of 'Fix it!' threads in the 'Warfare & Tactics' forum and by the scattering of FW [Issue] threads that have come up here. At the last CSM meeting on June 7, two Faction Warfare issues failed to be passed by the CSM. My impression from the minutes is that the CSM members either thought the issues were worded in a non-constructive way, or that the answers to bug-fix questions would be so technical that they would be useless.
This [Issue] is a simple 'request for information'; pretty much exactly in line with the request for information issue that was passed by the CSM on June 7 in regards to the Industry Expansion that vanished last year.
There are some FW issues that CCP has already agreed to in principle (and even agreed to implement). There are some they have admitted are not quite right. There are other issues still that CCP has not spoken up about that the community has suggested solutions for.
I want to know about the following items (but not only these!):
- implementation of alliances joining FW
- rewards for participating in FW
- giving meaning to system occupancy
- spawning mechanic of FW complexes
- capturing mechanic of FW complexes
- FW missions: what can be done to fix them?
- lag in low sec as it/if it relates to FW
(listed in no specific order)
SUPPORT this topic if you want to know too. We want at least one FW issue to reach the CSM, and if it's not going to be a specific issue (as it looks like it won't be), then let's at least get a general update on development and maybe even a schedule on the deployment of fixes. Remember, you don't have to support or even have a strong opinion about any of the above issues to want some information on FW development.
Thank you for your time,
Dohl Khrensen
**NOTE** I'm a grunt in the Minmatar militia and I don't claim to know anymore than anyone else about the issues on the faction battlefront, especially not more than those who have been campaigning in different ways for FW for a year now. Feel free to be more specific about the above items in your support post, or add an item I may have missed.
Thanks to those who have laid the groundwork for this [Issue] in other posts on these forums. |
Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:16:00 -
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I want to know. |
Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:42:00 -
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Information would be nice. There was a dev post a week or so ago that basically said "FW is not forgotten, but we ain't gonna say nuffink about it". My understanding is that some of these issues may have been raised in the last meeting of CSM2 (about a month ago) but I've had no success at all in finding out what went on at that meeting.
My favorite FW-related issue is, of course, the change to allow corps to be in both alliances and the militia. CCP said that they could do it, said they'd work on it, said it would be out 'early 2009', and then said nothing more. That was last year, and not an announcement since.
In any case, I support this issue: De-nerf CCP Communication Now!, both in regards to FW and in general, too!
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Sophie Starsparrow
Cwn Annwn Clan
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:10:00 -
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Enquiring minds want to know. |
Nephilim Xeno
Pimebeka Mining Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:11:00 -
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signed |
Gabriel Darkefyre
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:22:00 -
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:32:00 -
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Would certainly like to see a Dev Blog at the very least on the work being done, if any, to address FW issues. |
Neu Bastian
Minmatar
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:57:00 -
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sign |
El Nordico
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Posted - 2009.06.11 23:41:00 -
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more information please |
Sappho Ajhannis
Knowledge Stick Station
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Posted - 2009.06.11 23:54:00 -
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I suggest seperating it into two or more sections like 1) bug fixes and 2) development. That way the whole issue won't get shot down if the CSM objects to one part of it.
I don't think we'll get a responce to loud demands for info/action on general FW development, at least not at the moment. But I asking for specific action and info on bug fixes (like cloaky plexing, the map bug and the borked plex spawning mechanic)is something that could and should be moved forward.
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Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.06.12 00:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Sappho Ajhannis
I suggest seperating it into two or more sections like 1) bug fixes and 2) development. That way the whole issue won't get shot down if the CSM objects to one part of it.
I don't think we'll get a responce to loud demands for info/action on general FW development, at least not at the moment. But I asking for specific action and info on bug fixes (like cloaky plexing, the map bug and the borked plex spawning mechanic)is something that could and should be moved forward.
This issue was raised after reading the last CSM meeting minutes where two very specific FW related issues were shot down: one because it was a request to fix lag (a bug-report, in a way, that basically has no immediate, definable outcome), and the second because it was a complaint on lack of development that was changed to a request to give FW higher priority. Delegates in the meeting have said they would likely support a more general request for information on FW, as they did with a request for information on industrial content.
I want at least one FW issue on the plate of the CSM when they meet with CCP. If its this general request, awesome; if its something more specific, even better.
To support this you need only want to know more about the future of Faction Warfare.
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Zverofaust
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Posted - 2009.06.12 00:13:00 -
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Would like to know. |
Jake Oman
Star Frontiers
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Posted - 2009.06.12 00:41:00 -
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I would like to know too. |
Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.06.12 00:56:00 -
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I pay the same subscription fee as anyone living in 0.0.
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Onnen Mentar
Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.12 01:05:00 -
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These questions all require answers, particularly the FW lag and rewards related ones. |
Snake O'Donell
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.12 02:39:00 -
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Signed. FW needs un****ed.
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Klyria
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.06.12 03:02:00 -
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Seems like a reasonable request. |
Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2009.06.12 03:20:00 -
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this is pretty much what I advised Erik to change his issue to, so gets my support
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Lissome Elan
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.06.12 04:02:00 -
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Havohej
Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2009.06.12 05:24:00 -
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Inquiring minds and such.
"You can still steal their stuff." - CCP Explorer
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T 2
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.06.12 06:23:00 -
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I support this request. Information is what we need from CCP as soon as possible, please. It has been too long since we have had any information on any of the subjects detailed here.
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Raimo
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.06.12 06:46:00 -
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Supported, most notably the bit about FW/ lowsec lag. |
qanatas
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2009.06.12 06:53:00 -
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A bit more info would indeed be nice !
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Lunewraith
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.06.12 06:54:00 -
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Well worded and non inflammatory. You are asking for clarification on specific issues and seems worded well enough to bring to CCP. Supporting this. |
Angry Fist
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.06.12 07:22:00 -
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Supported.
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Jeddak Tarkas
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2009.06.12 09:07:00 -
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Answers would be nice here as FW seems to have no real goals to strive for at the moment
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Ulivor udie
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Posted - 2009.06.12 09:10:00 -
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I am new to EvE and was looking at FW. I have been advised not to bother as its a money and time sink with no real benefits. I would like to see what CCP are planning here.
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Miss Direction
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Posted - 2009.06.12 09:12:00 -
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Signed
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Lebaneur
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.06.12 10:05:00 -
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hear hear!
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Mra Rednu
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 10:15:00 -
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Signed
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