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Bryce Lester	Posted - 2009.06.12 08:24:00 - [1] So I know there's the salvage skill that improves the chance of getting stuff from salvaging but are there any skills or anything that helps to speed up the salvaging process? Anything that shortens the cycle time of the salvage module? Thanks
Lilith Krell	Posted - 2009.06.12 08:36:00 - [2] Short answer: No Long answer: No, but yes kind of; 1) The amount and type of salvage is determined when the wreck is created, this is fixed and no skill or module/rig affects this. 2) The salvage skill increases the chance of accessing the wreck per cycle of the salvage module, so in essence reduces the number of cycles required to access a wreck. 3) There is nothing that reduces the actual cycle time of the salvager module So the only way to speed up the entire process is to increase your chance of accessing the wreck on each cycle: a) train slavage skill higher b) use salvage tackle rigs c) use more than one salvage module on the wreck you are trying to access
Chestrano	Posted - 2009.06.12 15:52:00 - [3] d) use t2 Salvager.
Ki Tarra Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2009.06.12 16:03:00 - [4] Edited by: Ki Tarra on 12/06/2009 16:04:50 Originally by: Lilith Krell Short answer: No Long answer: No, but yes kind of; 1) The amount and type of salvage is determined when the wreck is created, this is fixed and no skill or module/rig affects this. 2) The salvage skill increases the chance of accessing the wreck per cycle of the salvage module, so in essence reduces the number of cycles required to access a wreck. Using salvage rigs and TechII Salvagers have this same effect, as does this salvage hardwiring implant. 3) There is ~~nothing~~ one thing that reduces the actual cycle time of the salvager module So the only way to speed up the entire process is to increase your chance of accessing the wreck on each cycle: a) train slavage skill higher b) use salvage tackle rigs c) use more than one salvage module on the wreck you are trying to access Fixed!
Grista	Posted - 2009.06.12 18:32:00 - [5] Training salvage to IV and fitting a salvage rig help greatly in reducing the amount of time it takes to salvage a group of wrecks.
toothless spider	Posted - 2009.06.12 18:38:00 - [6] Or getting your salvage skill to 5. %s that I've seen posted 5% chance x level of salvager skill if using salvager Is 7% chance x level of salvager skill (required level V) and using salvager IIs So from going from level 4 (20%) to level 5 and adding a salvager II (42%) is going to increase your chances dramatically.
Breaker77 Reclamation Industries New Eden Research	Posted - 2009.06.12 19:29:00 - [7] Originally by: toothless spider Or getting your salvage skill to 5. %s that I've seen posted 5% chance x level of salvager skill if using salvager Is 7% chance x level of salvager skill (required level V) and using salvager IIs So from going from level 4 (20%) to level 5 and adding a salvager II (42%) is going to increase your chances dramatically. Salvaging 5% per level Salvager I 5% bonus Salvager II 7 % bonus Salvager I (5%) with Salvaging 4 (4 X 5%) = 25% Salvager II (7%) with Salvaging 5 (5 X 5%) = 32% or is the formula not that simple?
Xymor Minmatar X.M.I.	Posted - 2009.06.12 19:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Breaker77 Salvaging 5% per level Salvager I 5% bonus Salvager II 7 % bonus Salvager I (5%) with Salvaging 4 (4 X 5%) = 25% Salvager II (7%) with Salvaging 5 (5 X 5%) = 32% or is the formula not that simple? While you are using a Salvager 1 your chance is 5% per salvaging LV, so a max of 25% with out rigs and such. While using a Salvager 2 your chance is 7% per salvaging LV, at max is 35% with no rigs and such. At least this is how EFT shoes this working. My guy with Salvaging 4 using a Salvager 1 is at 20% while my guy with salvaging 5 using a Salvager 2 is at 35%
Breaker77 Reclamation Industries New Eden Research	Posted - 2009.06.12 20:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Xymor While using a Salvager 2 your chance is 7% per salvaging LV, at max is 35% with no rigs and such. Thats odd since the skill itself says 5% per level and the salvager II only says access difficulty 7% with no mention of per level. It could also be one of those things that changed with Apoc, but the skill wasn't updated
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.06.12 21:24:00 - [10] Pretty sure the skill just wasn't updated, because until Apocrypha, T1 was all you had for salvagers, codebreakers, and analyzers. I used to think that you got 5% per level of Salvaging plus 5% for the Salvager I, but that's not how it works out in practice.
toothless spider	Posted - 2009.06.12 21:45:00 - [11] Ok...even with that different information the skill still stands on its own with t2 salvagers available at level V. Level IV salvage =20% chance...level V salvage with t2 salvagers = 35% chance...almost doubling the chance of successful salvage.
KaarBaak Minmatar Squirrel Team	Posted - 2009.06.13 01:53:00 - [12] I think this answers the OPs need more precisely. Reduces cycle time. KB KB
Hachi Ironfist	Posted - 2009.06.13 10:16:00 - [13] so the maximum access difficulty is 85% ? Salvaging 5, salvager t2, 3xsalvage tackle II + PPY = 85% am I missing something ?
Gaius Sejanus Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2009.06.14 11:57:00 - [14] Quote: So I know there's the salvage skill that improves the chance of getting stuff from salvaging No skill does this.
Lilith Krell	Posted - 2009.06.15 07:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Ki Tarra Fixed! Lol, i stand corrected...
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.15 11:14:00 - [16] Edited by: Akita T on 15/06/2009 11:19:13 Originally by: Xymor While you are using a Salvager 1 your chance is 5% per salvaging LV, so a max of 25% with out rigs and such. While using a Salvager 2 your chance is 7% per salvaging LV, at max is 35% with no rigs and such. I seriously doubt it would be per level, it's much more likely it's just a flat bonus. So it's 7%+20%=27%, not 35%. Yes, that's just 2% over the T1. Pathetic. What kind of basis do you have on claiming it's 7% per level for T2 salvager anyway ? Are you seriously suggesting they introduced a radically better item (as opposed to just ever so slightly better) yet failed to update the skill description appropriately ? Also, what kind of experiments have you conducted ? You do know that a flat 2% extra access difficulty modifier can translate in anything from a negligible, barely above 2% salvage chance, or can offer a hugely improved salvage chance ? That's due to the fact the WRECKS have a NEGATIVE access difficulty bonus, different for each type of wreck, that gets subtracted from the "salvager chance"... Originally by: Hachi Ironfist so the maximum access difficulty is 85% ? Salvaging 5, salvager t2, 3xsalvage tackle II + PPY = 85% am I missing something ? Depending on how T2 salvagers work, it might be 85%... or it might be just 20+7+3*15+5 = 77%. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2009.06.15 12:04:00 - [17] Originally by: Akita T What kind of basis do you have on claiming it's 7% per level for T2 salvager anyway ? With 7% per level the T2 module is 40% better than its T1 counterpart, matching the T1 to T2 progression of almost all other modules. Second, it's been confirmed/said by devs when the T2 salvager got less than positive reviews on Sisi when people assumed a mere 2% or 7% improvement.
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.06.15 12:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 15/06/2009 11:19:13 Originally by: Xymor While you are using a Salvager 1 your chance is 5% per salvaging LV, so a max of 25% with out rigs and such. While using a Salvager 2 your chance is 7% per salvaging LV, at max is 35% with no rigs and such. I seriously doubt it would be per level, it's much more likely it's just a flat bonus. So it's 7%+20%=27%, not 35%. Yes, that's just 2% over the T1. Pathetic. What kind of basis do you have on claiming it's 7% per level for T2 salvager anyway ? Are you seriously suggesting they introduced a radically better item (as opposed to just ever so slightly better) yet failed to update the skill description appropriately ? ... according to in-game show info, T2 salvager (Salvaging 5) has 35% access difficulty bonus. knowing ccp, it could go either way. my bet is on obsolete skill description.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.15 21:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Jagga Spikes according to in-game show info, T2 salvager (Salvaging 5) has 35% access difficulty bonus. knowing ccp, it could go either way. my bet is on obsolete skill description. Meh, CCP strikes again EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK

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