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Eithen Kihne
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Posted - 2009.06.14 10:36:00 -
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The EOS was overpowered, ok, but now it is simply useless.
Nobody fly it, nobody use information warfare modules.
I say: change it so that it give bonuses to drones for example.
Or something useful at least.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.06.14 13:42:00 -
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Info warfare is fine. The problem here was that the bandwidth nerf was applied stupidly to the Eos and Myrmidon. Cut turrets if they do too much DPS, not drones.
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Max Essen
Bison Industrial Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.14 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Max Essen on 14/06/2009 17:19:24
Supported.
Although I am not sure exactly what, something needs to be done to save this ship.
I would definately favor a bandwidth increase ... with that, perhaps limit turrets to 4 of it's 7 highs?
And, some bandwidth love for the Myrmadon is also despirately needed.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.06.16 03:45:00 -
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Been waiting a year for my logistics and commandship skills for the Eos to be meaningful.
Completely useless ship as it stands.
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.16 14:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 16/06/2009 05:19:13
Info warfare is fine*. The problem here was that the bandwidth nerf was applied stupidly to the Eos and Myrmidon. Cut turrets if they do too much DPS, not drones.
* Fine as a ship bonus, I mean. The gang links themselves need some love.
I agree with this tbh... The EOS was a hell of a ship before the changes.
I'd rather see it's number of turret hardpoints cut, and it's bandwidth increased to allow for it to field a full compilment of heavies.
The only real true droneboats the Gallente have are the Dominix, the Vexor and the half-assed Ishtar. Considering PF tells us they fought a whole war using drones to even the numbers, their ships combat capability with drones certainly doesn't reflect it.
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Eithen Kihne
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Posted - 2009.06.16 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Eithen Kihne on 16/06/2009 15:41:44
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 16/06/2009 05:19:13
Info warfare is fine*. The problem here was that the bandwidth nerf was applied stupidly to the Eos and Myrmidon. Cut turrets if they do too much DPS, not drones.
* Fine as a ship bonus, I mean. The gang links themselves need some love.
I agree with this tbh... The EOS was a hell of a ship before the changes.
I'd rather see it's number of turret hardpoints cut, and it's bandwidth increased to allow for it to field a full compilment of heavies.
The only real true droneboats the Gallente have are the Dominix, the Vexor and the half-assed Ishtar. Considering PF tells us they fought a whole war using drones to even the numbers, their ships combat capability with drones certainly doesn't reflect it.
Man this is so true.
I'd love to have the old eos back, but i know that it's not possible.
So if CCP don't want to give us an eos with heavy drones then i'd like to have a useful gang bonus at least.
But your point is so true, and if they cut turret hardpoints i can't see the problem.
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.06.16 16:30:00 -
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The problem with the Eos is that the information bonuses only affect other ships if they have the associated module fit. The only exception is the one that increases your sensor strength, but it really does not affect you enough. If a falcon/rook is using the right racial on you, chances are, your jammed anyways.
In todays pvp settings, having any of the other three fleet command ships is far more prefered than the information bonuses. Each race is geared towards what its race is more known for. Caldari is shield, Amarr is armor and Minmitar is speed. So for Gallente, what stands out about it more than any other race?
DRONES
So how about bonuses that affect drones (maybe even fighters?)
I think it would put the ship right up there in line with the others if it affected the gangs drones, what do you all think??
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.06.16 16:55:00 -
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I support a review of the Eos. The nerfs to info warfare links were unneeded at the time and are killing this ship today. Specifically, ECM+Tracking Disruptor strength changes make it unlikly they need the Eos' link (sensor damps have fallen into disuse almost entirely but that is another thread) and the MEAGER, TIIIINY sensor strength boost the other link provides counts for nothing against the modern jammer.
Take pity on it.
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Don Pellegrino
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Posted - 2009.06.17 02:35:00 -
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This ship needs review |
Kamina Kasai
Glittering Dust
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Posted - 2009.06.17 13:18:00 -
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EOS need rebalance. |
cerg
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Posted - 2009.06.17 13:19:00 -
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Supported. |
fuze
Chosen Path
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.06.17 16:44:00 -
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The way those command bonusses were given to the different races always has been quirky.
Minmattar command ships got hurt by the speednerf and gallentean ones by the EW nerf.
And the Amarrian ones are mostly using in fleets because of their armor tank bonusses.
Maybe it would be interesting to change it to one command role bonus out of the 12 per command ship and enable 2 extra bonus with the use of rigs. And to make up for the lost rig slots you could give the ship some extra racial bonus like mentioned by others. And even might add some new warlink types to go with bonus rigs. Giving command ships the ability to set up for special task forces. |
GunnerySergeant Blair
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Posted - 2009.06.17 17:11:00 -
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Eos with newly introduced Drone Warfare Links  |
Zibu 81
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.18 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: GunnerySergeant Blair
Eos with newly introduced Drone Warfare Links
If anything, Gallente should get armor links, and Amarr should get new capacitor links (cap amount/ recharge rate / efficiency of energy emission devices (nos / neut / cap transporter) |
Slave 775
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.20 08:06:00 -
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The time you need to skill for a EOS should get you something useful.
supported
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Ghorrn Kranthil
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Posted - 2009.06.26 23:08:00 -
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even if intended now as a gang/fleet supporter, that ship should be useful as well in solo, so any more useful bonuses / fitting stuff should be given... as an alternative, a t2 myrmidon might be created to be another bc-sized drone ship with good dronie bonuses stronger than ishtar
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Admiral IceBlock
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:18:00 -
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Yue Rubens
Fnord Works
Event Horizon.
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Posted - 2009.06.27 14:59:00 -
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Drone bonus for eos \o/
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Izo Alabaster
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2009.06.28 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Izo Alabaster on 28/06/2009 20:27:18
Eos is suck. It needs love. Supported.
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
Endemic Aggression
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.28 20:42:00 -
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EOS is as sucky in a similar way than other similar purpose command ships like vulture, damnation, claymore. They're not meant to be pwnmobiles dps wise.
Information warfare bonus is just seemingly -a bit- less useful than other link bonuses. Shield, armor and speed bonuses are easy to utilize in a way but not many ships get notable information warfare bonus. Maybe EOS could have links for increasing drone hp, range, tracking etc. Damage bonus is big no no in my opinion though, drones already do enough damage.
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SubLepton
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Posted - 2009.06.28 21:41:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.06.29 01:21:00 -
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I'm fine with a redesign/rebuff of info war in general as a stealth eos bonus, but something needs to change.
Probe strength bonus, drone speed/tracking/range, improve the % increase for the sensor strength link (or broaden it to include targeting range/speed and tracking speed/rang), etc etc. There's a lot of ways to go about it |
Kaman Jho
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Posted - 2009.06.29 17:17:00 -
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Fully support giving this ship a bump. Increase the drone bandwidth for a full compliment of heavies, balance by not giving drone bonuses. Give it a self bonus to sensor strength and the game finally has a counter to the ECM recons. People might actually fly this ship again.
Right now the only sub capital ships I see flown by Gallente are Vex, Domi, Mega, Myrm and Ishtar. We need more than five ships. Gallente Command and Recon ships are TOTAL fail. Everything else is merely "toyed with" while training to get into one of the five.
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Severian Autharch
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.06.29 20:01:00 -
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I am not flying the EOS until it has been fixed. +1.
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Project 001
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Posted - 2009.06.29 22:46:00 -
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Either the Eos, or information warfare, or possibly both need some adjustments.
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Mahai Ano
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:54:00 -
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Eos desperately needs some love
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Dave Meltdown
Capital Construction Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.07 12:09:00 -
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A Sinner
THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY
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Posted - 2009.07.07 12:59:00 -
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i agree.. spent so much time perfecting my drone skills and now I am limited only to the ishtar. buff the eos and the myrmidon (such a cool name, such a beautiful ship and equally useless) .
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