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Miokinavi	Posted - 2009.06.17 19:28:00 - [1] could this be a future asset! to do votings before disbanding an entire alliance ? unless only 1 mann in it! thx! the person who disbanded bob must be very proud today! he just won eve! GF! :P
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.06.17 19:30:00 - [2] WTH? BoB got disbanded? That's completely new to me! When did this happen? -------- Ideas for: Mining
Miokinavi	Posted - 2009.06.17 19:31:00 - [3] well seem the war ended... and seriously i would nevr want the **** that happend to bob happend to me! so i hope ccp will consider the voting to be mandatory upon alliance matter stuff.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:25:00 - [4] You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust.
Ghoest	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. \ As silly as this thread is - you managed to make the dumbest comment yet. A corporation is analogous to a "company." An alliances is not. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. Assuming an alliance would be the same as a company. Who exactly owns it? It isnt the CEO, and also not a disgruntled director, the shareholders do. So you fail with your RL comparison. Which isnt a surprise, because 99% of those comparisons fail. (Usually the ones that scamming also happens irl, and preferably they start one of those topics when a scammer has been caught and is going to be friends with bubba for a long time. Sadly for them, they dont have an alt they can continue on).
Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2009.06.18 12:03:00 - [7] Well reading caod the impression I get from most razor/mm/pl/goon/privateers posters is that any 500 player corp could have squashed BoB... Apparently their enemy had no competent FCs, no leadership worth speaking of or and hopeless combat pilots. Odd that it took them several months to do it.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.06.18 12:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. Assuming an alliance would be the same as a company. Who exactly owns it? It isnt the CEO, and also not a disgruntled director, the shareholders do. So you fail with your RL comparison. Which isnt a surprise, because 99% of those comparisons fail. (Usually the ones that scamming also happens irl, and preferably they start one of those topics when a scammer has been caught and is going to be friends with bubba for a long time. Sadly for them, they dont have an alt they can continue on). Except not all companies have shareholders therefore the company is owned by the guy running it, i've worked for several companies with no shareholders so the comparison is perfectly valid and the guys running it could wake up one morning and just decide to shut up shop and move on, if you have issues understanding any of that drop me a message and i can link you to 2 real life companies with no shareholders i've worked for ;)
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.06.18 12:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. \ As silly as this thread is - you managed to make the dumbest comment yet. A corporation is analogous to a "company." An alliances is not. Essentially managment wise an alliance is just a big corp, the tools are the same the only difference is sov, you declare wars as a single entity and you work together as a single entity, looks the same to me.
Cory Sopapilla Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.18 17:43:00 - [10] Originally by: Cypherous Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. \ As silly as this thread is - you managed to make the dumbest comment yet. A corporation is analogous to a "company." An alliances is not. Essentially managment wise an alliance is just a big corp, the tools are the same the only difference is sov, you declare wars as a single entity and you work together as a single entity, looks the same to me. Croatia is a member of NATO, they can't disband it, but they can quit or put it up for vote on the floor (which would get them laughed out of the room).
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.06.18 17:47:00 - [11] "As the president of the USA, I hereby declare this country disbanded". I mean, in EVE, it could actually work EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Tele Z'thain Fraser's Finest Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.06.18 17:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Hyveres Well reading caod the impression I get from most razor/mm/pl/goon/privateers posters is that any 500 player corp could have squashed BoB... Apparently their enemy had no competent FCs, no leadership worth speaking of or and hopeless combat pilots. Odd that it took them several months to do it. I think I see the problem...
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.06.18 18:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Cory Sopapilla Originally by: Cypherous Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. \ As silly as this thread is - you managed to make the dumbest comment yet. A corporation is analogous to a "company." An alliances is not. Essentially managment wise an alliance is just a big corp, the tools are the same the only difference is sov, you declare wars as a single entity and you work together as a single entity, looks the same to me. Croatia is a member of NATO, they can't disband it, but they can quit or put it up for vote on the floor (which would get them laughed out of the room). Yup but as i said the tools for management are the same as corps ingame, nothing broken and working perfectly, i laughed ^^
Arcturus Delanto	Posted - 2009.06.18 20:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Cypherous Yup but as i said the tools for management are the same as corps ingame, nothing broken and working perfectly, i laughed ^^ Except in a corp, you can't kick a person for 24 hours (if they have roles) and if any one is left except the ceo in the corp you can't disband the corp. Another Comparison Failure.
Arcturus Delanto	Posted - 2009.06.18 20:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. The Director of a company cannot Dissolve his or her company 'IRL'
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.18 20:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Cypherous Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. Assuming an alliance would be the same as a company. Who exactly owns it? It isnt the CEO, and also not a disgruntled director, the shareholders do. So you fail with your RL comparison. Which isnt a surprise, because 99% of those comparisons fail. (Usually the ones that scamming also happens irl, and preferably they start one of those topics when a scammer has been caught and is going to be friends with bubba for a long time. Sadly for them, they dont have an alt they can continue on). Except not all companies have shareholders therefore the company is owned by the guy running it, i've worked for several companies with no shareholders so the comparison is perfectly valid and the guys running it could wake up one morning and just decide to shut up shop and move on, if you have issues understanding any of that drop me a message and i can link you to 2 real life companies with no shareholders i've worked for ;) Except that all corps in eve have shares and that the OP wants a voting system.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.06.18 22:35:00 - [17] people people people let talk about the real issues, universal warming the suns will burn up needless to say something has to be done Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.06.18 23:01:00 - [18] Originally by: Arcturus Delanto Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. The Director of a company cannot Dissolve his or her company 'IRL' If i own a company i am more than legally allowed to cease trading and close the business down there is nothing to stop me. Originally by: Furb Killer Except that all corps in eve have shares and that the OP wants a voting system. Except that voting with shares is redundant if no shares are given out, ergo if i have all the shares and cast a vote its going to go through, sure give them votes aslong as the executor of the alliance gets to choose who has shares and who doesn't just to keep the shares the same as the corp system thereby gaining you nothing. Originally by: Arcturus Delanto Except in a corp, you can't kick a person for 24 hours (if they have roles) and if any one is left except the ceo in the corp you can't disband the corp. Another Comparison Failure. No but the reverse is true, you serve the 24 hours prior to joining so the 24 hours still exists.
Arcturus Delanto	Posted - 2009.06.18 23:33:00 - [19] Originally by: Cypherous Originally by: Arcturus Delanto Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. The Director of a company cannot Dissolve his or her company 'IRL' If i own a company i am more than legally allowed to cease trading and close the business down there is nothing to stop me. But a director of the company, Not Owner, Not even part owner, just some dude with a title. And anyways, if you have a thriving company with thousands of employees and you shut your doors suddenly with out reason or just cause you will be in serious problems. It is VERY expensive and lengthy process to close a company in the US. Originally by: Cypherous Originally by: Arcturus Delanto Except in a corp, you can't kick a person for 24 hours (if they have roles) and if any one is left except the ceo in the corp you can't disband the corp. Another Comparison Failure. No but the reverse is true, you serve the 24 hours prior to joining so the 24 hours still exists. Thats a huuuge stretch and the time outs were implemented for different reasons. That is the perfect example of apples to oranges comparison. Face it...you lost that point.
Ghoest	Posted - 2009.06.19 17:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Cypherous Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Cypherous You mean like the owner of a company has to have a vote to disolve his or her company IRL? See its the same, no fix needed its called trust. \ As silly as this thread is - you managed to make the dumbest comment yet. A corporation is analogous to a "company." An alliances is not. Essentially managment wise an alliance is just a big corp, the tools are the same the only difference is sov, you declare wars as a single entity and you work together as a single entity, looks the same to me. You fail again noob. The essence of any "alliance" is that its mutual agreement among independent entities. Its a like a group of friends. Anyone can turn on the others but you cant make the others stop being friends.
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.06.19 17:50:00 - [21] How do you pronounce the "a" with the thing over it?

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