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Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.18 10:48:00 - [1] I'm wondering how does one deal with Neuts and Nos, because twice now trying to attack a Curse I've been neuted to 0 cap and left to die. I had a tip to use ECM but I really don't have the midslots or skills for it, I use Cap Booster 800's but he can neut it as soon as I use one. Just trying to see what I can do to defend myself / put myself on the offensive. ---- My Music
Shazard	Posted - 2009.06.18 10:53:00 - [2] Originally by: Bestofworst I'm wondering how does one deal with Neuts and Nos, because twice now trying to attack a Curse I've been neuted to 0 cap and left to die. I had a tip to use ECM but I really don't have the midslots or skills for it, I use Cap Booster 800's but he can neut it as soon as I use one. Just trying to see what I can do to defend myself / put myself on the offensive. For example! Use passive shield tanked Ishtar or Myrmidon with Drones!
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.18 10:57:00 - [3] Originally by: Shazard Originally by: Bestofworst I'm wondering how does one deal with Neuts and Nos, because twice now trying to attack a Curse I've been neuted to 0 cap and left to die. I had a tip to use ECM but I really don't have the midslots or skills for it, I use Cap Booster 800's but he can neut it as soon as I use one. Just trying to see what I can do to defend myself / put myself on the offensive. For example! Use passive shield tanked Ishtar or Myrmidon with Drones! ---- My Music
Killer Gandry Caldari Red Horizon Inc	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:04:00 - [4] Passive tanked Myrm with drones and projectiles is quit a surprise for a neut boat like a Curse.
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Killer Gandry Passive tanked Myrm with drones and projectiles is quit a surprise for a neut boat like a Curse. Ok now I understand the other post, but really, shields tanking on gallente? I know it's good on a myrm but I'm not really skilled for that, though I can do projectiles. I can never find a good buffer or passive tank on anything via battleclinic.
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.06.18 11:22:00 - [6] Originally by: Bestofworst Originally by: Killer Gandry Passive tanked Myrm with drones and projectiles is quit a surprise for a neut boat like a Curse. Ok now I understand the other post, but really, shields tanking on gallente? I know it's good on a myrm but I'm not really skilled for that, though I can do projectiles. I can never find a good buffer or passive tank on anything via battleclinic. You still haven't said what you fly so it's a bit hard to advise you. :p Drakes are great Curse counters, but the problem is that regardless of what you fly, a Curse will usually get away due to his Neuts. At best, you can expect a draw.
Vidi Angelus Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.06.18 12:06:00 - [7] Try swapping down to 400's , If its going to be neuted away you want to inject enough to cycle your modules, any more is just going to be wasted. Smaller boosters=more boosts.
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.18 12:42:00 - [8] Originally by: Intigo Originally by: Bestofworst Originally by: Killer Gandry Passive tanked Myrm with drones and projectiles is quit a surprise for a neut boat like a Curse. Ok now I understand the other post, but really, shields tanking on gallente? I know it's good on a myrm but I'm not really skilled for that, though I can do projectiles. I can never find a good buffer or passive tank on anything via battleclinic. You still haven't said what you fly so it's a bit hard to advise you. :p Drakes are great Curse counters, but the problem is that regardless of what you fly, a Curse will usually get away due to his Neuts. At best, you can expect a draw. Sorry bout that. I usually fly Gallente, and the last fight I had with a curse was in a Brutix that used a MWD to get close and had dual rep (active tank fail possibly).
Intigo Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.06.18 16:32:00 - [9] Originally by: Bestofworst Originally by: Intigo Originally by: Bestofworst Originally by: Killer Gandry Passive tanked Myrm with drones and projectiles is quit a surprise for a neut boat like a Curse. Ok now I understand the other post, but really, shields tanking on gallente? I know it's good on a myrm but I'm not really skilled for that, though I can do projectiles. I can never find a good buffer or passive tank on anything via battleclinic. You still haven't said what you fly so it's a bit hard to advise you. :p Drakes are great Curse counters, but the problem is that regardless of what you fly, a Curse will usually get away due to his Neuts. At best, you can expect a draw. Sorry bout that. I usually fly Gallente, and the last fight I had with a curse was in a Brutix that used a MWD to get close and had dual rep (active tank fail possibly). Yeah, that's pretty much the worst possible BC to engage a Curse in. :p Passively tanked Brutix with scram + web + Cap Booster and some fancy piloting may be able to get into range and do ok, but it's a pretty bad BC for engaging a Curse in. Passive Hurricane + Drake would both do a bit better probably, Drake in particular if you drop a little bit of tank for a Cap Booster, if you get into scram + web range he'd be toast. If not, you can probably scare him off no matter what. No matter what though, you won't beat a good Curse pilot as they can pretty much always run away. ___________________ ENEMA, much love. <3
aetherguy881	Posted - 2009.06.18 17:23:00 - [10] Just a small bit of 2 cents here; If you know that you're going to be neuted, toss a DC on there, theyr'e extremely efficient for what they do. I had one in a WH and it saved my myrm that was on the far end of a 'dictor sphere and was locked down except for a web, thus I made it out ok.

Domea Sai	Posted - 2009.06.19 08:40:00 - [11] remind me again what a DC is ? :) What would be the best gallente ship to counter a curse or abitrator knowing they will have either 4 neuts or 4 nos and a hellload of drones on you :) I also reckon those ships will have an ECM jammer or so preventing you from getting a target lock. Im thinking getting up close and use smartbombs ? EMP ? Tips please :)
Domea Sai	Posted - 2009.06.19 08:42:00 - [12] and maybe 2 cap injction boosters or so ?
Ira Black	Posted - 2009.06.19 13:04:00 - [13] DC = Damage Control Also used: DCU : Damage Control Unit The don't use a lot of cap at all. At least. I think that's what it means
Duke Karas	Posted - 2009.06.19 16:54:00 - [14] Neuts are a big threat to any active set-ups. Probably the only real justification to passive set-ups. Not even confined to the Curse..theres a lot of ships packing neuts effectively. IMO the only real counters are to 'out neut the neuter' (not really possible facing a curse, unless maybe you are ONLY using neuts/nos etc on a BS lol), or to use ECM. ECM drones can help, but even 1 or 2 ECM mods might jam them up. Its one of the things I know I struggle with also on my set-ups...almost feel obligated to include neuts, or at least nos on all the set-ups. 1 nos can keep a point going.


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