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Hoozin
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Posted - 2004.12.27 07:17:00 -
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Sorry, I stumbled on to this thread 3 months late, but I'll pass on the setups I like anyway. Most of these are related to Empire warfare because that's how I grew up as PVP is concerned.
The Blackbird is THE number one ship for Empire EW. Carry extra racial jammers in your cargo and if you get a shiptype to jam, dock, refit and undock ready for that enemy in just under a minute.
I don't care what anybody says, if it's in Empire, you'll want an MWD unless you're doing the camping or have very specific targets.
Standard Cruising
3 Heavy Launchers
1 Gun, your choice
4 Racial Jammers (one of each type will jam any cruiser not carrying backups)
1 20km Warp Disruptor
1 10MN MWD
The low slots are where things get fun. Two CPRs is common and useful if you don't have decent cap skills or low level of Caldari Cruiser, but you probably don't really need them if you've got a couple million SP to your name. If you want to use Warp Core Stabs they are good too and can come in very handy. My personal favorite though was to use a 400mm plate (don't think I could fit an 800mm, but I can't remember and I can't get in-game to look again for a while) and a medium armor repairer. Yes, a crappy little armor tank so that I could jam and run away, then come back and jam some more. If you fit this, I don't think you can fit a medium gun in the highs, but you may want to fit a small anyway.
The multispectral Blackbird:
In my experience, you don't want to try it without a cap booster and cruiser 4 at least (as well as the cap skills).
Good luck and sorry I'm 3 months late on giving my input.
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Hoozin
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Posted - 2004.12.27 07:17:00 -
[32]
Sorry, I stumbled on to this thread 3 months late, but I'll pass on the setups I like anyway. Most of these are related to Empire warfare because that's how I grew up as PVP is concerned.
The Blackbird is THE number one ship for Empire EW. Carry extra racial jammers in your cargo and if you get a shiptype to jam, dock, refit and undock ready for that enemy in just under a minute.
I don't care what anybody says, if it's in Empire, you'll want an MWD unless you're doing the camping or have very specific targets.
Standard Cruising
3 Heavy Launchers
1 Gun, your choice
4 Racial Jammers (one of each type will jam any cruiser not carrying backups)
1 20km Warp Disruptor
1 10MN MWD
The low slots are where things get fun. Two CPRs is common and useful if you don't have decent cap skills or low level of Caldari Cruiser, but you probably don't really need them if you've got a couple million SP to your name. If you want to use Warp Core Stabs they are good too and can come in very handy. My personal favorite though was to use a 400mm plate (don't think I could fit an 800mm, but I can't remember and I can't get in-game to look again for a while) and a medium armor repairer. Yes, a crappy little armor tank so that I could jam and run away, then come back and jam some more. If you fit this, I don't think you can fit a medium gun in the highs, but you may want to fit a small anyway.
The multispectral Blackbird:
In my experience, you don't want to try it without a cap booster and cruiser 4 at least (as well as the cap skills).
Good luck and sorry I'm 3 months late on giving my input.
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The forums are so much smoother if you just don't read any posts by [UDIE]. More specifically Shin Ra's. |
Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:10:00 -
[33]
Blackbird PvP Setup :
Hislots :
3 Assault Launchers
1 Dual 150 mm Railgun
Mid Slots :
3 Sensor Dampeners
1 10 MN MWD
1 Warp Scrambler
1 Webifier
Low Slots
1 Sensor Amplifier
1 Med Armor Repairer
It's been a while since I set this up, you *May* have enough room to upgrade 1 or more launchers to heavy launchers. Do this as available.
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K. Raven
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:10:00 -
[34]
Blackbird PvP Setup :
Hislots :
3 Assault Launchers
1 Dual 150 mm Railgun
Mid Slots :
3 Sensor Dampeners
1 10 MN MWD
1 Warp Scrambler
1 Webifier
Low Slots
1 Sensor Amplifier
1 Med Armor Repairer
It's been a while since I set this up, you *May* have enough room to upgrade 1 or more launchers to heavy launchers. Do this as available.
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K. Raven
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CoolSprog
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:20:00 -
[35]
High: Med NOS, 3x H Launchers
Meds: 4x Dampers, 2x 20k Scramblers
Lows: WCS/Ballistic Control/Cap Relay (fit to suit  )
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CoolSprog
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Posted - 2004.12.27 11:20:00 -
[36]
High: Med NOS, 3x H Launchers
Meds: 4x Dampers, 2x 20k Scramblers
Lows: WCS/Ballistic Control/Cap Relay (fit to suit )
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DEALING DEL
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:13:00 -
[37]
I could do with some help on this as well plz.
i am running a EM setup.
hi slot
3 x hvy launchers
1 x medium ghoul
med
4 x multispec
1 x weber
1 x warp scrambler
lo
2 x basic cap flux coil (- 10% cap + 20 % recharge rate)
i find my cap goes within 2 mins
i have electronics lvl 4
prop jamming lvl 3
EW lvl 3
cruiser lvl 4
engineering lvl 5
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DEALING DEL
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:13:00 -
[38]
I could do with some help on this as well plz.
i am running a EM setup.
hi slot
3 x hvy launchers
1 x medium ghoul
med
4 x multispec
1 x weber
1 x warp scrambler
lo
2 x basic cap flux coil (- 10% cap + 20 % recharge rate)
i find my cap goes within 2 mins
i have electronics lvl 4
prop jamming lvl 3
EW lvl 3
cruiser lvl 4
engineering lvl 5
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KompleX
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:23:00 -
[39]
Havn't tried this in the field yet, but it sounds good in theory, only thing that differs is the Nosferateus in high:
HIGH: Nosferateu's (Or you could just do the 1x 250MM + Heavy launchers)
MED: 20KM scrambler, webber, 4 multispecs
LOW: Cap relay and a sensor amp thingy
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KompleX
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:23:00 -
[40]
Havn't tried this in the field yet, but it sounds good in theory, only thing that differs is the Nosferateus in high:
HIGH: Nosferateu's (Or you could just do the 1x 250MM + Heavy launchers)
MED: 20KM scrambler, webber, 4 multispecs
LOW: Cap relay and a sensor amp thingy
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:52:00 -
[41]
Hi: Nosferatu 3x Launchers (Don't use rails, the damage is baely worth it and you need that cap for your meds).
Med: 3xDampners/3xRacials (carry these with you in your cargohold, find an enemy, then fit accordingly, dampners on as default as they'll work on anything) MWD, Web, Disrupter. (That Mwd is handy for when you need to keep your distance using dampners. And getting in disrupter range e.t.c. e.t.c)
Lo: Depending on cap skills, relays or Ballistic Controls for some extra damage.
The BB is a fine ship, but I like to have a wingman fitted for heavy damage, a Blasterax or something.
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.12.27 12:52:00 -
[42]
Hi: Nosferatu 3x Launchers (Don't use rails, the damage is baely worth it and you need that cap for your meds).
Med: 3xDampners/3xRacials (carry these with you in your cargohold, find an enemy, then fit accordingly, dampners on as default as they'll work on anything) MWD, Web, Disrupter. (That Mwd is handy for when you need to keep your distance using dampners. And getting in disrupter range e.t.c. e.t.c)
Lo: Depending on cap skills, relays or Ballistic Controls for some extra damage.
The BB is a fine ship, but I like to have a wingman fitted for heavy damage, a Blasterax or something.
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I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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DEALING DEL
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:37:00 -
[43]
GOT IT :)
tryed with NOS its cool last 4 mins now thats enough time :)
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DEALING DEL
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Posted - 2004.12.27 13:37:00 -
[44]
GOT IT :)
tryed with NOS its cool last 4 mins now thats enough time :)
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.12.27 15:08:00 -
[45]
If your going to be going up against battleships as fleet support, might want to do 1 med nos, 1 rocket/std launcher with defenders, 2 heavy launchers. I know if I see a cruiser doing EW I'll stick a launcher or two on it.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
Boonaki
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Posted - 2004.12.27 15:08:00 -
[46]
If your going to be going up against battleships as fleet support, might want to do 1 med nos, 1 rocket/std launcher with defenders, 2 heavy launchers. I know if I see a cruiser doing EW I'll stick a launcher or two on it.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.12.27 22:34:00 -
[47]
You didn't say what you were using it for. I run this setup for ganking haulers:
3x Heavy Launcher
1x Nos
1x MWD
1x Web
4x Scrambler
1x Balistic Control
1x CPR
This is also a really good tackling ship as part of a group, in that role you can replace the low slot stuff with sensor amps.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.12.27 22:34:00 -
[48]
You didn't say what you were using it for. I run this setup for ganking haulers:
3x Heavy Launcher
1x Nos
1x MWD
1x Web
4x Scrambler
1x Balistic Control
1x CPR
This is also a really good tackling ship as part of a group, in that role you can replace the low slot stuff with sensor amps.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
stalefish
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:30:00 -
[49]
for fleet support:
hi-
3x heavy launcher
1x whatever that fits (nos or smartbomb is good)
mid-
1 of each racial jammer
1 multispec
1 sensor booster (t2 if u can fit it)
low-
2x low slot sensor boosters (i forgot what they were called)
Blackbirds in a fleet is only used for cycle jamming as many ships as you can. All the sensor mods should give you an enormous locking range + lock time.
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stalefish
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:30:00 -
[50]
for fleet support:
hi-
3x heavy launcher
1x whatever that fits (nos or smartbomb is good)
mid-
1 of each racial jammer
1 multispec
1 sensor booster (t2 if u can fit it)
low-
2x low slot sensor boosters (i forgot what they were called)
Blackbirds in a fleet is only used for cycle jamming as many ships as you can. All the sensor mods should give you an enormous locking range + lock time.
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:56:00 -
[51]
Edited by: JaiMaster on 28/12/2004 11:59:26
so many hopeless bb setups here :( especially considering is a basic ship to fit...
take the clown putting just nos in highs as-well-as a webby in his mids... wtf for, to webby a ship thats already unable to mwd with no cap?
and a bb w/ no mwd = death wish
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.12.28 11:56:00 -
[52]
Edited by: JaiMaster on 28/12/2004 11:59:26
so many hopeless bb setups here :( especially considering is a basic ship to fit...
take the clown putting just nos in highs as-well-as a webby in his mids... wtf for, to webby a ship thats already unable to mwd with no cap?
and a bb w/ no mwd = death wish
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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