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Kongkim 040382DK
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Kongkim 040382DK on 19/06/2009 20:09:44
I just read the forum post named "arena" `? and a a guy from CCP said
"Arenas are definitely a cool concept and something we explored during Apocrypha"
I really really dont hope that it will be made in EVE. EVE is almost the only game left with no BG's and arenas.. i really like that.
He said it because it hard do find PVP.
So way not just make it easier to find PVP??
Like reamping the Bounty system a little. So all ppl with bounties is easier to find and pin down with scanners??
Make it easier to be bounty hunter. Make it as bounty missions.. Where when you have the mission to kill another player you get a bonus to find him and a statistic of the system he is last seen in and the system he is the most in. and then on.
It will make it more easy to find PVP in EVE.
Simply make PVP quests that a single player can take.
Like fly to this system and kill a player from that race.. like FW but where they lead ppl to the same system or region.
I hope CCP like the idea. Or just take a look at it and see if they can make pvp better without Arenas and BGs :)
kongkim.
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Fille Balle
Dissolution Of Eternity
Event Horizon.
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:24:00 -
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Right, now then. Question? What's gonna stop other's from blobbing my single ship?
I can find pvb (player vs blob) anytime I want, but I never want that (let's be honest, do you?). Arena's would allow a family guy (like me) to get a fair fight. Right now you need to spend hours upon hours to find a fair fight. I don't want to spend hours to get five minutes of fair fight. Firstly because I only have about 2-3hours a day (not even that), secondly: it's a GAME, and I'd like to PLAY IT, not spend hours to look for a way have fun.
And btw, you're forgetting one very important thing: people fight over resources in eve. This is not the case in many other games, so real pvp ceases to exist after arenas. Not the case in eve. People will always fight over resources in eve.
Thank you.
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Kongkim 040382DK
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Kongkim 040382DK on 19/06/2009 20:34:26
 Originally by: Fille Balle
Right, now then. Question? What's gonna stop other's from blobbing my single ship?
I can find pvb (player vs blob) anytime I want, but I never want that (let's be honest, do you?). Arena's would allow a family guy (like me) to get a fair fight. Right now you need to spend hours upon hours to find a fair fight. I don't want to spend hours to get five minutes of fair fight. Firstly because I only have about 2-3hours a day (not even that), secondly: it's a GAME, and I'd like to PLAY IT, not spend hours to look for a way have fun.
And btw, you're forgetting one very important thing: people fight over resources in eve. This is not the case in many other games, so real pvp ceases to exist after arenas. Not the case in eve. People will always fight over resources in eve.
Thank you.
As i said i hope they take a look at it. Only to work on the idea. Becaus there surely things i didten think about.
But if you have a large enough bounty on your head i dont see a problem in a gang hunting you. then you also have to be with your m8's
But Arenas sux. it will be the only thing ppl do to pvp like any other game out there.. and then EVE is dead for me. and alot of other ppl i think.
And YES you use to many hours and time to find PVP as it is right now.. That is one of my points in this post... To make it easier to find PVP and how to do it.?
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Freya Marada
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Freya Marada on 19/06/2009 20:42:42
Exactly how would combat simulation kill the real PvP?
There's a lot of ignorance in this forum and fear of any changes... |
Kongkim 040382DK
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Freya Marada
Edited by: Freya Marada on 19/06/2009 20:42:42
Exactly how would combat simulation kill the real PvP?
There's a lot of ignorance in this forum and fear of any changes...
Ok maby not kill it. But there will be less pvp out in the system. Even less then there is now. So way not just make that easier if ppl will pvp.?
And no not fear of changes.. EVE just not like other mmo game.. and i dont whant it to be. i really hate BG's and arens in other games. |
Valandril
Caldari
Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 19/06/2009 20:49:44
Locator agents, killboards, all info you need is already in game. Also there are already mercs in game. |
Freya Marada
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:50:00 -
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Please reason, personal feelings aren't arguments at all. |
Helgur
Steel Soldier's
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Posted - 2009.06.19 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Freya Marada
Edited by: Freya Marada on 19/06/2009 20:42:42
Exactly how would combat simulation kill the real PvP?
There's a lot of ignorance in this forum and fear of any changes...
As of today, most people sign up for corporations/alliances or join faction warfare to do pvp. If such an arena gets implemented it can potentially steal a lot of players from the these areas of pvp as many people will be satifyed with a risk free pvp style.
Even if you loose your ship and modules in a arena fight you are still able to "pick your odds" and therefore you risk less, and henceforth loose less so it will be prefered by most players in NPC corps.
Saying this wont hurt real pvp in eve is so naive and proves just how little thought have gone into this idea.
In addition, calling people ignorant out of your own ignorance adds a sweet ironic twist to it all.
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Freya Marada
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.19 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Helgur
As of today, most people sign up for corporations/alliances or join faction warfare to do pvp. If such an arena gets implemented it can potentially steal a lot of players from the these areas of pvp as many people will be satifyed with a risk free pvp style.
There you've got a point, the first reasonable argument I've read about contra combat simulations.
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kongking wang
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Posted - 2009.06.19 23:42:00 -
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pvp arena will make those not normally pvp'ers have a go. this will then increas the eve pvp population to almost 100%(real people)partisipation.
currently pvp is 1 sided towards a combat spec. with arena, joe blogs miner can enter into a rookie fight with anyone at his skill lvl for an even fight. they both bet agains each other and so does the public. joe wins and get a percentage of the winnings and the public get theirs. the looser drops his head in shame and leaves with an empty wallet or the pinks to his ship.
mean while the looser logs his main combat character and camps the local gate. joe in his shiney new ship wants to take it out for a spin and decides to try his luck in low sec. afterall its a free ship. he jumps in and gets pawned.
anything is possible. and a plus side nothing stops you taking back what you lost in a bet when the guy leaves to return home to low sec or ganking.
not only does pvp for resources/war or revenge etc remain unchanged but it will increase the ammount who do it. the key to keeping the ballance is making arenas low profitable. making it primarely, purely for bragging rights would do this howether this wont stop side bets and a new contract could be introduced to allow for ship transfer etc to be wagered. maybe even soverenty. some might have the ego to do that.
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Kongkim 040382DK
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Posted - 2009.06.19 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: kongking wang
pvp arena will make those not normally pvp'ers have a go. this will then increas the eve pvp population to almost 100%(real people)partisipation.
currently pvp is 1 sided towards a combat spec. with arena, joe blogs miner can enter into a rookie fight with anyone at his skill lvl for an even fight. they both bet agains each other and so does the public. joe wins and get a percentage of the winnings and the public get theirs. the looser drops his head in shame and leaves with an empty wallet or the pinks to his ship.
mean while the looser logs his main combat character and camps the local gate. joe in his shiney new ship wants to take it out for a spin and decides to try his luck in low sec. afterall its a free ship. he jumps in and gets pawned.
anything is possible. and a plus side nothing stops you taking back what you lost in a bet when the guy leaves to return home to low sec or ganking.
not only does pvp for resources/war or revenge etc remain unchanged but it will increase the ammount who do it. the key to keeping the ballance is making arenas low profitable. making it primarely, purely for bragging rights would do this howether this wont stop side bets and a new contract could be introduced to allow for ship transfer etc to be wagered. maybe even soverenty. some might have the ego to do that.
Way make it give profit at all if you dont loss anything.
No i think it a bad ide. Many ppl will be "sitting" around the arena and do nothing els. Becaus pvp is fun and you dont loss anything with it.
They will ruin the open world pvp and make it like any other game out there.
sure there will be some ppl still fighting out there and for the ress. Men there will only be less then if the arena was not there.
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