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RdAndy	Posted - 2004.09.19 10:52:00 - [1] simple question, i have 1 arb, 2 malk, 1 limo 2 xr-3200 heavy launchers in my hanger, and looking to fit out a caracal ideas welcome
RdAndy	Posted - 2004.09.19 10:52:00 - [2] simple question, i have 1 arb, 2 malk, 1 limo 2 xr-3200 heavy launchers in my hanger, and looking to fit out a caracal ideas welcome
Nekrosis	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:15:00 - [3] -Hi- Heavy Launchers -Med- 10MN MWD Cap Recharger Cap Recharger -Low- Warp Core Stab (incase you screw up and get webbed/scrambled) Cap Relays I've used this setup for every level III kill mission I've run into (even Mordus). You can take out any NPC rat at 60km, keep a range of 50-60km... hit the mwd when needed. Usually you can pop a frigate in 1 volley, cruiser rats take a bit more. I use Thunderbolts in 1-2 of the launchers and Scourge in the rest.
Nekrosis	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:15:00 - [4] -Hi- Heavy Launchers -Med- 10MN MWD Cap Recharger Cap Recharger -Low- Warp Core Stab (incase you screw up and get webbed/scrambled) Cap Relays I've used this setup for every level III kill mission I've run into (even Mordus). You can take out any NPC rat at 60km, keep a range of 50-60km... hit the mwd when needed. Usually you can pop a frigate in 1 volley, cruiser rats take a bit more. I use Thunderbolts in 1-2 of the launchers and Scourge in the rest.
RdAndy	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:35:00 - [5] is there any way to fit some ballistic control in there somewhere?
RdAndy	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:35:00 - [6] is there any way to fit some ballistic control in there somewhere?
NIKNAK	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:42:00 - [7] Edited by: NIKNAK on 19/09/2004 11:48:44 Edited by: NIKNAK on 19/09/2004 11:44:06 If I remember right the Caracal has 4 med slots, so put another cap recharger on and swap out the cap relay for a balistic control system in low... Why would you need so much cap on a missle boat anyway???
NIKNAK	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:42:00 - [8] Edited by: NIKNAK on 19/09/2004 11:48:44 Edited by: NIKNAK on 19/09/2004 11:44:06 If I remember right the Caracal has 4 med slots, so put another cap recharger on and swap out the cap relay for a balistic control system in low... Why would you need so much cap on a missle boat anyway???
TekRa	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:45:00 - [9] i use: 4x heavy launchers 1x rocket launcher with defenders -- 1x 10mn MWD 1x M Shield booster 2x shield hardeners --- 1x ballistic control 1x sensor booster --- All the modules are named, except the ballistic control and RL. I can do all lvl 3 missions, inc the mordus. Just make sure the first ship you lock and fire at is the bounty hunter as he is the only one who can web/scramble, after that just keep 40km+ and fire away. Thunderbolts and scrouge in the launchers. It's surprisingly easy, and very boring doing missions in a caracal tho, but it gets the job done. :) > With the lights out it's less dangerous.
TekRa	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:45:00 - [10] i use: 4x heavy launchers 1x rocket launcher with defenders -- 1x 10mn MWD 1x M Shield booster 2x shield hardeners --- 1x ballistic control 1x sensor booster --- All the modules are named, except the ballistic control and RL. I can do all lvl 3 missions, inc the mordus. Just make sure the first ship you lock and fire at is the bounty hunter as he is the only one who can web/scramble, after that just keep 40km+ and fire away. Thunderbolts and scrouge in the launchers. It's surprisingly easy, and very boring doing missions in a caracal tho, but it gets the job done. :) > With the lights out it's less dangerous.
Krogort	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:52:00 - [11] I use: 5heavy launcher (scourges) 10MN mwd, Med shield booster, 2 Cap rechargers Balistic control and Overdrive injector All module named or tech II (exept the weapon mod). No problem wich all lv3 missions.
Krogort	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:52:00 - [12] I use: 5heavy launcher (scourges) 10MN mwd, Med shield booster, 2 Cap rechargers Balistic control and Overdrive injector All module named or tech II (exept the weapon mod). No problem wich all lv3 missions.
Krogort	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:53:00 - [13] I use: 5heavy launcher (scourges) 10MN mwd, Med shield booster, 2 Cap rechargers Balistic control and Overdrive injector All module named or tech II (exept the weapon mod). No problem wich all lv3 missions.
Krogort	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:53:00 - [14] I use: 5heavy launcher (scourges) 10MN mwd, Med shield booster, 2 Cap rechargers Balistic control and Overdrive injector All module named or tech II (exept the weapon mod). No problem wich all lv3 missions.
RdAndy	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:53:00 - [15] all good advice here, i will try them in about 2 minutes and let you lot know what happens
RdAndy	Posted - 2004.09.19 11:53:00 - [16] all good advice here, i will try them in about 2 minutes and let you lot know what happens
TekRa	Posted - 2004.09.19 13:53:00 - [17] out of curiosity, how come you guys are using cap relays/rechargers? with 5 missiles launchers not using any cap at all, and only a MWD being used every now and again to keep the distance, surly the cap situation isn't a problem? I found that using the caracal you're more than often out of range of any ships, and the odd time you do get hit isn't really a problem. even with my setup using shield boosters/hardeners I could replace them with any other module since I hardly ever activate them. I havn't tried this, but perhaps fit sensor dampners to further lower their range (do dampners eve work on NPCs? :s ) As long as you have the heavy launchers, MWD and ballistic control, the rest is optional, you could even leave the slots empty, but that would be stupid > With the lights out it's less dangerous.
TekRa	Posted - 2004.09.19 13:53:00 - [18] out of curiosity, how come you guys are using cap relays/rechargers? with 5 missiles launchers not using any cap at all, and only a MWD being used every now and again to keep the distance, surly the cap situation isn't a problem? I found that using the caracal you're more than often out of range of any ships, and the odd time you do get hit isn't really a problem. even with my setup using shield boosters/hardeners I could replace them with any other module since I hardly ever activate them. I havn't tried this, but perhaps fit sensor dampners to further lower their range (do dampners eve work on NPCs? :s ) As long as you have the heavy launchers, MWD and ballistic control, the rest is optional, you could even leave the slots empty, but that would be stupid > With the lights out it's less dangerous.
Diana Merris	Posted - 2004.09.19 14:45:00 - [19] Necrosis' setup should be able to run the MWD non-stop. That shouldn't be needed except for pvp though.
Diana Merris	Posted - 2004.09.19 14:45:00 - [20] Necrosis' setup should be able to run the MWD non-stop. That shouldn't be needed except for pvp though.
RdAndy	Posted - 2004.09.19 15:30:00 - [21] ok ive found some modules and heres what i got fitted 1 arb, 2 xr-3200, 1 limo 1 malk (horrible volley time differences but still good) 1 10mn mwd, 1 med clarity, 2 recharger 2 ballistic control seems to work well, now i just need to worry about a supply of scourge missiles.
RdAndy	Posted - 2004.09.19 15:30:00 - [22] ok ive found some modules and heres what i got fitted 1 arb, 2 xr-3200, 1 limo 1 malk (horrible volley time differences but still good) 1 10mn mwd, 1 med clarity, 2 recharger 2 ballistic control seems to work well, now i just need to worry about a supply of scourge missiles.
Dashi	Posted - 2004.09.24 00:47:00 - [23] 5x Limos Heavies (high) 10nm MWD, Small T2 Sheild booster, 2x barton cap rechargers (med) 2x balistic DMG mod (low) 339/360 CPU 457/750 PG With MWD, around 1100m/s just lob missiles into combat, I've done the sabotage mission with this, all launchers loaded with scourges
Dashi	Posted - 2004.09.24 00:47:00 - [24] 5x Limos Heavies (high) 10nm MWD, Small T2 Sheild booster, 2x barton cap rechargers (med) 2x balistic DMG mod (low) 339/360 CPU 457/750 PG With MWD, around 1100m/s just lob missiles into combat, I've done the sabotage mission with this, all launchers loaded with scourges
Gungankllr	Posted - 2004.09.24 09:10:00 - [25] Edited by: Gungankllr on 24/09/2004 09:13:10 I never used an MWD, I just mounted a shield booster, 2 hardeners for whatever NPC's I was fighting and a Sensor Booster. Since NPC's only do two types of damage typically, the two hardeners cut damage incoming by 50%, and the sensor booster cuts lock time by about half and adds about 50% sensor range. In lows I put in a Ballistic control and a module of choice. I've tried quite a few different modules, but I usually ended putting in a Power Distribution module or a named overdrive. Personal preference really. I just didn't like the 25% reduction in CAP and Shields from the MWD, and with the extra cap power and the damage reduction from the hardeners (in addition to the sensor range) I rarely had major problems with NPC's. When I flew a cruiser I flew a Moa with 4 250's and 2 heavy launchers, and I could kite at 60km without getting shot down to more than 75% shields. the same principle should work for a Caracal. By the way, did I mention that we build all available standard cruisers at reasonable prices? Hadean Drive Yards www.hadean.org
Gungankllr	Posted - 2004.09.24 09:10:00 - [26] Edited by: Gungankllr on 24/09/2004 09:13:10 I never used an MWD, I just mounted a shield booster, 2 hardeners for whatever NPC's I was fighting and a Sensor Booster. Since NPC's only do two types of damage typically, the two hardeners cut damage incoming by 50%, and the sensor booster cuts lock time by about half and adds about 50% sensor range. In lows I put in a Ballistic control and a module of choice. I've tried quite a few different modules, but I usually ended putting in a Power Distribution module or a named overdrive. Personal preference really. I just didn't like the 25% reduction in CAP and Shields from the MWD, and with the extra cap power and the damage reduction from the hardeners (in addition to the sensor range) I rarely had major problems with NPC's. When I flew a cruiser I flew a Moa with 4 250's and 2 heavy launchers, and I could kite at 60km without getting shot down to more than 75% shields. the same principle should work for a Caracal. By the way, did I mention that we build all available standard cruisers at reasonable prices? Hadean Drive Yards www.hadean.org
BigJim Beef	Posted - 2004.09.24 12:50:00 - [27] Originally by: RdAndy 1 arb, 2 xr-3200, 1 limo 1 malk (horrible volley time differences but still good) hehe, i hate using mis-matched weapons ... i'd probably sell that arbalest and use the money to buy 3 more XR 3200s
BigJim Beef	Posted - 2004.09.24 12:50:00 - [28] Originally by: RdAndy 1 arb, 2 xr-3200, 1 limo 1 malk (horrible volley time differences but still good) hehe, i hate using mis-matched weapons ... i'd probably sell that arbalest and use the money to buy 3 more XR 3200s
TekRa	Posted - 2004.09.24 13:14:00 - [29] Originally by: BigJim Beef hehe, i hate using mis-matched weapons ... i'd probably sell that arbalest and use the money to buy 3 more XR 3200s fear my Domination, xr-3200, limos, malkuth, malkuth combo! > With the lights out it's less dangerous.
TekRa	Posted - 2004.09.24 13:14:00 - [30] Originally by: BigJim Beef hehe, i hate using mis-matched weapons ... i'd probably sell that arbalest and use the money to buy 3 more XR 3200s fear my Domination, xr-3200, limos, malkuth, malkuth combo! > With the lights out it's less dangerous.

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