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Styx Sertan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:31:00 -
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Drunken Bum wrote:Her AND you are both drama queens. You've never met montolio of test. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
779
|
Posted - 2012.05.19 01:34:00 -
[122] - Quote
Styx Sertan wrote:Drunken Bum wrote:Her AND you are both drama queens. You've never met montolio of test. TEST loves drama? It's always great to get some.
The question is - is it quality drama or not? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2058
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:35:00 -
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Dawn Flare wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:I dunno what happened but Issler has gone completely bat *%&@ crazy with tin foil hattery. Thinking that PL and goons own all the CSM and run the game and other such nonsense, he is literally insane.
On the other hand I applaud him for fighting back instead of docking, whining and demanding the game to be changed like 99.99% of the other carebears out there. Where on earth have I said any of that? In fact from as near as I can see the goon influence in the CSM 7 is virtually non-existent. You can do better. Issler Good job attacking one of the few people to even halfheartedly stand up for you. Attracting more people to unsub for your cause there, baus.
Corrected in the original post, my response was to the claim I was making this about some sort of GOON/PL run the CSM thing.
Issler |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
333
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:39:00 -
[124] - Quote
so much for your previous post being the "last thing you'll say on the subject" |

Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
8
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:40:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Dawn Flare wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:I dunno what happened but Issler has gone completely bat *%&@ crazy with tin foil hattery. Thinking that PL and goons own all the CSM and run the game and other such nonsense, he is literally insane.
On the other hand I applaud him for fighting back instead of docking, whining and demanding the game to be changed like 99.99% of the other carebears out there. Where on earth have I said any of that? In fact from as near as I can see the goon influence in the CSM 7 is virtually non-existent. You can do better. Issler Good job attacking one of the few people to even halfheartedly stand up for you. Attracting more people to unsub for your cause there, baus. Corrected in the original post, my response was to the claim I was making this about some sort of GOON/PL run the CSM thing. Issler Better idea than trying to change history?
Grow up and learn to think about your words before you say them, instead of regretting it afterwards.
Exactly the same behavior you so reviled in the Mittani, but without an apology afterward. |

Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
8
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:41:00 -
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corestwo wrote:so much for your previous post being the "last thing you'll say on the subject" She was trying to be humble.
Badly, but she was trying, give at least that much credit. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
779
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:44:00 -
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Dawn Flare wrote:corestwo wrote:so much for your previous post being the "last thing you'll say on the subject" She was trying to be humble. Badly, but she was trying, give at least that much credit. No, that meant "oh crap you guys are right, I'll act like I don't care."
Didn't want those political points anyway. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:45:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:
Do the right thing, Issler: Resign.
I agree about this; but because of the insanity.
Issler Dainze wrote:
I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well. Never has that been demonstrated so successfully in the alliance panel this year at Fanfest.
When the truth lube is applied in large quantities folks show you who they really are.
Issler
Ppl who believe your in game actions = you in real life dont need to be talking to CCP face to face Havent read OP yet http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Gabriel Kaile
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:47:00 -
[129] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:Dawn Flare wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:I dunno what happened but Issler has gone completely bat *%&@ crazy with tin foil hattery. Thinking that PL and goons own all the CSM and run the game and other such nonsense, he is literally insane.
On the other hand I applaud him for fighting back instead of docking, whining and demanding the game to be changed like 99.99% of the other carebears out there. Where on earth have I said any of that? In fact from as near as I can see the goon influence in the CSM 7 is virtually non-existent. You can do better. Issler Good job attacking one of the few people to even halfheartedly stand up for you. Attracting more people to unsub for your cause there, baus. Corrected in the original post, my response was to the claim I was making this about some sort of GOON/PL run the CSM thing. Issler
Hello Issler "littlerally" Dainze.
Keep digging that hole. |

Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
8
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:47:00 -
[130] - Quote
Ahhh, the pundits of EVE.
So much fun to be in this company :-D |

Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
8
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:48:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:
Do the right thing, Issler: Resign.
I agree about this; but because of the insanity. Issler Dainze wrote:
I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well. Never has that been demonstrated so successfully in the alliance panel this year at Fanfest.
When the truth lube is applied in large quantities folks show you who they really are.
Issler
Ppl who believe your in game actions = you in real life dont need to be talking to CCP face to face Havent read OP yet O.o;; |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.05.19 01:58:00 -
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Yes, dont forget, Issler was the first CSM to jump on Mittens after Fanfest, in the same thread I got that quote FROM, before Vile Rat jumped on her about the vote rigging scandal http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:05:00 -
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Renn Aldard wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:Feelsgood Man wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member? I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term. Mittani did it Not voluntarily. Darius' incompetence is voluntarily on the other hand. Oh wait, doing it voluntarily means you are aware of your actions. So Darius' incompetence isn't voluntarily therefore will always be a terrible CSM. But which one is still on the CSM?
There IS NO recall or removal of ANYONE on the CSM for any reason other than they stand down or (IE Mittens) mistake reality for the game while "being a drunken *******" - direct quote by mittens on the EVE Radio show for those that like to pretend he never blamed the alcohol http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Gabriel Kaile
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:12:00 -
[134] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:There IS NO recall or removal of ANYONE on the CSM for any reason other than they stand down or (IE Mittens) mistake reality for the game while "being a drunken *******" - direct quote by mittens on the EVE Radio show for those that like to pretend he never blamed the alcohol
He didn't blame the alcohol, shitbird. He said it was completely his fault, even if he was drunk. |

Evelyn Meiyi
Meiyi Family Holdings
2
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:13:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Issler Dainze recently sent this missive to her alliance: .
Okay, so:
1) How did you obtain a supposedly-private alliance communication?
and
2) What was the purpose of posting it here (except to prove that you (or your source) can't be trusted with private correspondence)
I'm calling nonsense. You're either a disgruntled member of the alliance in question, or you fabricated this whole thing to discredit a CSM that isn't voting the way the Goons want.
So, OP -- which is it? |

Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
264
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:18:00 -
[136] - Quote
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:So, OP -- which is it?
Well considering Issler already confirmed the evemail's validity with her first post in the thread, I guess Evilweasel must be a disgruntled former member of The Honda Accord! That is literally the only way someone could ever get hold of another alliance's ~PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS~, after all. |

Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
9
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:18:00 -
[137] - Quote
Evelyn Meiyi wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Issler Dainze recently sent this missive to her alliance: . Okay, so: 1) How did you obtain a supposedly-private alliance communication? and 2) What was the purpose of posting it here (except to prove that you (or your source) can't be trusted with private correspondence) I'm calling nonsense. You're either a disgruntled member of the alliance in question, or you fabricated this whole thing to discredit a CSM that isn't voting the way the Goons want. So, OP -- which is it? Have you never heard of a spy?
Edit: For example |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:19:00 -
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Evelyn Meiyi wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Issler Dainze recently sent this missive to her alliance: . Okay, so: 1) How did you obtain a supposedly-private alliance communication? and 2) What was the purpose of posting it here (except to prove that you (or your source) can't be trusted with private correspondence) I'm calling nonsense. You're either a disgruntled member of the alliance in question, or you fabricated this whole thing to discredit a CSM that isn't voting the way the Goons want. So, OP -- which is it? if i fabricated it one might assume the author, who has posted in this thread repeatedly verifying its authenticity, might have objected |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:23:00 -
[139] - Quote
Quote: They Cannot Win!! From: Issler Dainze Sent: 2012.05.17 06:57 To: The Honda Accord,
So coward blimp ego mittens hired similar coward to destroy our POSs in Illamur. To give you an idea of how screwed up this is in the context of Eve, the allinace hired was Pandemic Legion, what is where the head of the CSM lives, so we are littlerally being attacked by the CSM. Basically Eve is beyond broken. CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content. They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears. Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.
So what does BEEP become during the occupation? First, we hunt these bastards! They don't take us seriously! We have ships, guns and motivation. Goons in high sec are a joke! We make that clear to them.
We help drive the tide to take Eve back.
More about that soon, but players like us are the majority and we are fed up!! Let's take out game back!! Time for the bullies to have some of that sand that always like to talk about to be kicked in their face!
So let me know what you think, where is the future for us? Issler
CCP is right saying it's a driven player content: if some content created by other players is not going on like you wish, you should do something about it.
However, your comment about CCP encouraging and supporting goons looks more like support bullies/griever attitude/actions with an obvious and intended lack of rules, witch it's not new, who ever played in high sec knows this.
I don't know what were you expecting when you joined CSM but, welcome to Eve? |

Nephilius
Scions of Avalon
453
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:35:00 -
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Metric f*ckton of tears in this thread.
Welcome to Eve? "If." |

Myxx
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
525
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:40:00 -
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Before.. I was kind of indifferent to issler with his/her initial fuckup with calling out mittens during mittanigate. I was willing to forgive that because, well, **** happens. Please don't make me think of you as poorly as Darius III or Ahnk. |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1716
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:55:00 -
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Having read through the OP and Issler's subsequent responses, I have to admit I feel that Issler's resignation from the CSM would be appropriate.
A shame it's come to this.  |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2012.05.19 02:59:00 -
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Looking back through old posts I see that The Mittani's CSM was widely regarded as the most effective ever, resulting in the Crucible expansion which everyone loved. This internal alliance mail from this Issler Dainze person clearly reveals this individuals disregard for the 'office' of the CSM and their intention to use it as a personal vehicle to harm groups that they have conflicting playstyles with in-game.
People who can't or won't do the job of representing the Eve Online community with malice towards none shouldn't be in the position. Issler Dainze must go. . |

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
259
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Posted - 2012.05.19 03:10:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Having read through the OP and Issler's subsequent responses, I have to admit I feel that Issler's resignation from the CSM would be appropriate. A shame it's come to this.  +1
Issler must go, being a shame on the office of the CSM. +1 in local |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1931
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Posted - 2012.05.19 03:23:00 -
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No, I don't think this should result in a resignation.
I believe anyone can forget themselves and blurt something stupid out in front of other people. It happens, and people should be given a chance to explain and if necessary apologize.
Now if that behavior becomes a pattern, and the explanation or apologies begin to ring consistently false, then yes the person is just playing the system and they need to be removed.
I believe the former applies in this case, at least from what we have seen thus far.
I also believe it should have applied in the Mittani's case.
I seem to remember this story about throwing the first stone... When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

cerbus
Caldari Prime Pony Club
59
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Posted - 2012.05.19 03:32:00 -
[146] - Quote
I like Issler.
:| |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
782
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Posted - 2012.05.19 03:37:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:No, I don't think this should result in a resignation.
I believe anyone can forget themselves and blurt something stupid out in front of other people. It happens, and people should be given a chance to explain and if necessary apologize.
Now if that behavior becomes a pattern, and the explanation or apologies begin to ring consistently false, then yes the person is just playing the system and they need to be removed.
I believe the former applies in this case, at least from what we have seen thus far.
I also believe it should have applied in the Mittani's case.
I seem to remember this story about throwing the first stone... Throwing of stones has already been done. Let us throw citadel torpedos.
At POSes. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
782
|
Posted - 2012.05.19 03:44:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Evelyn Meiyi wrote:So, OP -- which is it? Well considering Issler already confirmed the evemail's validity with her first post in the thread, I guess Evilweasel must be a disgruntled former member of The Honda Accord! That is literally the only way someone could ever get hold of another alliance's ~PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS~, after all. If only ~our spy~ had access to the magic button that would make them drop all their so-
Oh wait, they don't have sov.
Like with BoB though, you find suddenly find many members in a new "The Honda Accord" though, if that were to happen. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1163
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Posted - 2012.05.19 03:51:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
I seem to remember this story about throwing the first stone...
This. Also, nice thread. |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
555
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Posted - 2012.05.19 03:52:00 -
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Issler is completely insane. Just putting it out there. |
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