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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 00:56:00 -
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Well it seems CCP have once again blessed the carebears.
We've been flagged for over 30 mins in the same system unable to move for fear of carebear protecting "sentry" guns.
Time to file a "stuck" petition me thinks.
Well played CCP at keeping low sec safe for everyone.........
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 00:56:00 -
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Well it seems CCP have once again blessed the carebears.
We've been flagged for over 30 mins in the same system unable to move for fear of carebear protecting "sentry" guns.
Time to file a "stuck" petition me thinks.
Well played CCP at keeping low sec safe for everyone.........
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Ripley13
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:05:00 -
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Poor thing. Guess you'll invest in some insta bookmarks or maybe use an alt next time. I know how much it must suck to actually have a consequence to your criminal activities.
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Ripley13
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:05:00 -
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Poor thing. Guess you'll invest in some insta bookmarks or maybe use an alt next time. I know how much it must suck to actually have a consequence to your criminal activities.
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Psionist
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:09:00 -
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This thread just made me laugh. A criminal whining on the forum about being stuck and in the same post calling others carebears? Suck it up and move on.
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Psionist
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:09:00 -
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This thread just made me laugh. A criminal whining on the forum about being stuck and in the same post calling others carebears? Suck it up and move on.
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Sgt Staaf
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:27:00 -
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So you guys are still trying to be pirates.
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Sgt Staaf
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:27:00 -
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So you guys are still trying to be pirates.
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Costamohgen
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:32:00 -
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You call others carebears for wanting to enjoy the game unmolested by pirates, then you cry when the game prevents you from having free reign over those people?
Give me a break, go pirate in 0.0 with the real pirates instead of being a panzy and whining about sentry guns.
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Costamohgen
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:32:00 -
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You call others carebears for wanting to enjoy the game unmolested by pirates, then you cry when the game prevents you from having free reign over those people?
Give me a break, go pirate in 0.0 with the real pirates instead of being a panzy and whining about sentry guns.
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mafish
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Psionist
Suck it up and move on.
he would but gate guns would shoot him :P
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mafish
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Psionist
Suck it up and move on.
he would but gate guns would shoot him :P
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mafish
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Costamohgen
You call others carebears for wanting to enjoy the game unmolested by pirates, then you cry when the game prevents you from having free reign over those people?
Give me a break, go pirate in 0.0 with the real pirates instead of being a panzy and whining about sentry guns.
you really have no clue do you it isnt possible for a small pierat corp to go to 0.0 they will get blobed there are very few small rat corps in 0.0 those that are also go into 0.1-0.4's as well
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mafish
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Costamohgen
You call others carebears for wanting to enjoy the game unmolested by pirates, then you cry when the game prevents you from having free reign over those people?
Give me a break, go pirate in 0.0 with the real pirates instead of being a panzy and whining about sentry guns.
you really have no clue do you it isnt possible for a small pierat corp to go to 0.0 they will get blobed there are very few small rat corps in 0.0 those that are also go into 0.1-0.4's as well
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Costamohgen
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: mafish
you really have no clue do you it isnt possible for a small pierat corp to go to 0.0 they will get blobed there are very few small rat corps in 0.0 those that are also go into 0.1-0.4's as well
Really, the pity I feel for those POOR little pirate corps is overwhelming. Maybe one day I too can have the good fortune to be robbed by a smaller corp so they can raise the necessary funds to move to unsecure space.
Alright, sarcasm aside... you have to admit that getting on the forum and whining about how CCP is limiting your pirate activities isn't the brightest thing to do. Were I to run a pirate corporation I would front it as a legitimate corporation for as long as possible and refute any claims to piracy until I could indeed move out into 0.0 space. One should not be proudly declaring that one is a criminal or pirate until one can deal with the consequences of that declaration as mOo and all of CA can.
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Costamohgen
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: mafish
you really have no clue do you it isnt possible for a small pierat corp to go to 0.0 they will get blobed there are very few small rat corps in 0.0 those that are also go into 0.1-0.4's as well
Really, the pity I feel for those POOR little pirate corps is overwhelming. Maybe one day I too can have the good fortune to be robbed by a smaller corp so they can raise the necessary funds to move to unsecure space.
Alright, sarcasm aside... you have to admit that getting on the forum and whining about how CCP is limiting your pirate activities isn't the brightest thing to do. Were I to run a pirate corporation I would front it as a legitimate corporation for as long as possible and refute any claims to piracy until I could indeed move out into 0.0 space. One should not be proudly declaring that one is a criminal or pirate until one can deal with the consequences of that declaration as mOo and all of CA can.
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:49:00 -
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Well I expected some awesome replies to this...
...No I really did
What a bunch of Asshats. I mean, such little knowledge is clearly a bad bad thing and you alot (aside for mafish) clearly are dumbest of the dumb.
Get on with your mining and i'll find you shortly.
 YAAAAR
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:49:00 -
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Well I expected some awesome replies to this...
...No I really did
What a bunch of Asshats. I mean, such little knowledge is clearly a bad bad thing and you alot (aside for mafish) clearly are dumbest of the dumb.
Get on with your mining and i'll find you shortly.
YAAAAR
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 20/09/2004 01:53:49
Originally by: Costamohgen
Originally by: mafish
you really have no clue do you it isnt possible for a small pierat corp to go to 0.0 they will get blobed there are very few small rat corps in 0.0 those that are also go into 0.1-0.4's as well
Really, the pity I feel for those POOR little pirate corps is overwhelming. Maybe one day I too can have the good fortune to be robbed by a smaller corp so they can raise the necessary funds to move to unsecure space.
Alright, sarcasm aside... you have to admit that getting on the forum and whining about how CCP is limiting your pirate activities isn't the brightest thing to do. Were I to run a pirate corporation I would front it as a legitimate corporation for as long as possible and refute any claims to piracy until I could indeed move out into 0.0 space. One should not be proudly declaring that one is a criminal or pirate until one can deal with the consequences of that declaration as mOo and all of CA can.
WTF am I supposed to do, I cant play the game I have to stare at a bloody planet.
Ohh and yes im sure you're scared of m0o, shame no-one else can make name for themselves anymore as we get raped buy the rules every ******* time...
EDIT: spelling grammer and all the rest
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 20/09/2004 01:53:49
Originally by: Costamohgen
Originally by: mafish
you really have no clue do you it isnt possible for a small pierat corp to go to 0.0 they will get blobed there are very few small rat corps in 0.0 those that are also go into 0.1-0.4's as well
Really, the pity I feel for those POOR little pirate corps is overwhelming. Maybe one day I too can have the good fortune to be robbed by a smaller corp so they can raise the necessary funds to move to unsecure space.
Alright, sarcasm aside... you have to admit that getting on the forum and whining about how CCP is limiting your pirate activities isn't the brightest thing to do. Were I to run a pirate corporation I would front it as a legitimate corporation for as long as possible and refute any claims to piracy until I could indeed move out into 0.0 space. One should not be proudly declaring that one is a criminal or pirate until one can deal with the consequences of that declaration as mOo and all of CA can.
WTF am I supposed to do, I cant play the game I have to stare at a bloody planet.
Ohh and yes im sure you're scared of m0o, shame no-one else can make name for themselves anymore as we get raped buy the rules every ******* time...
EDIT: spelling grammer and all the rest
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:53:00 -
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I think you idiots will find that the original post was about the inflated amount of time to wait for criminal flagging to wear off.
Please save your "Attack the pirate" posts for people who care.
Mafish: Thanks for the only intelligent replies to this thread.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:53:00 -
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I think you idiots will find that the original post was about the inflated amount of time to wait for criminal flagging to wear off.
Please save your "Attack the pirate" posts for people who care.
Mafish: Thanks for the only intelligent replies to this thread.
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mafish
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:55:00 -
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as this is a crime and punisment forum it has every right to be hear and shouldnt be insta flamed. What people seem to forget is that pirating is a profession in this game and 0.4-0.1 were designed for this profession. I wish ppl would just think how it would affect there income if they had to let a timer run out before they could mine another roid or do another mission and also why should a pirate corp have to be big enough to take on huge 0.0 alliances/corps miners dont have to have huge corps to do what they like/want to do and it should be the same for pirates.
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mafish
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:55:00 -
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as this is a crime and punisment forum it has every right to be hear and shouldnt be insta flamed. What people seem to forget is that pirating is a profession in this game and 0.4-0.1 were designed for this profession. I wish ppl would just think how it would affect there income if they had to let a timer run out before they could mine another roid or do another mission and also why should a pirate corp have to be big enough to take on huge 0.0 alliances/corps miners dont have to have huge corps to do what they like/want to do and it should be the same for pirates.
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Costamohgen
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:56:00 -
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What, you think mOo didn't have to work within the rules as well? They didn't get special treatment, you're just whining. I detest whining... and no mOo doesn't scare me. No pirate scares me... if you're able to take what I have despite my best efforts to stop you then you deserve to take it. The fact that you're here whining on the forums about sentry guns, of all things, just shows me how horrible of a pirate you are. Log an alt for an hour then come back and see if the flag is gone. A stuck petition won't do anything if you've been legitimatly detained in a system by a flag.
And to be honest I wasn't making fun of you or anything, it just struck me as funny is all. You guys sound like you need some good leadership to succeed. If I was still in the pirating business I'd come help, but I'm just sorta waiting on shiva now.
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Costamohgen
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:56:00 -
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What, you think mOo didn't have to work within the rules as well? They didn't get special treatment, you're just whining. I detest whining... and no mOo doesn't scare me. No pirate scares me... if you're able to take what I have despite my best efforts to stop you then you deserve to take it. The fact that you're here whining on the forums about sentry guns, of all things, just shows me how horrible of a pirate you are. Log an alt for an hour then come back and see if the flag is gone. A stuck petition won't do anything if you've been legitimatly detained in a system by a flag.
And to be honest I wasn't making fun of you or anything, it just struck me as funny is all. You guys sound like you need some good leadership to succeed. If I was still in the pirating business I'd come help, but I'm just sorta waiting on shiva now.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:58:00 -
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There is no 30 minute rule 
Now go away.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 01:58:00 -
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There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
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Ripley13
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
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Ripley13
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Costamohgen
What, you think mOo didn't have to work within the rules as well? They didn't get special treatment, you're just whining. I detest whining... and no mOo doesn't scare me. No pirate scares me... if you're able to take what I have despite my best efforts to stop you then you deserve to take it. The fact that you're here whining on the forums about sentry guns, of all things, just shows me how horrible of a pirate you are. Log an alt for an hour then come back and see if the flag is gone. A stuck petition won't do anything if you've been legitimatly detained in a system by a flag.
And to be honest I wasn't making fun of you or anything, it just struck me as funny is all. You guys sound like you need some good leadership to succeed. If I was still in the pirating business I'd come help, but I'm just sorta waiting on shiva now.
M8 you missed 2 major parts of my post.
A) I was flagged for a full 34 mins
B) I dont give a flying donut what u think about my profession in game.
and for all the other idiots about to reply...
PIRACY IS ALLOWED IN 0.1 TO 0.4 BUT IT HAS BEEN DESTROYED, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ALOT EASIER TO MINE
Anyway hooray laugh at me.
I Will Blow You Up Later 
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Costamohgen
What, you think mOo didn't have to work within the rules as well? They didn't get special treatment, you're just whining. I detest whining... and no mOo doesn't scare me. No pirate scares me... if you're able to take what I have despite my best efforts to stop you then you deserve to take it. The fact that you're here whining on the forums about sentry guns, of all things, just shows me how horrible of a pirate you are. Log an alt for an hour then come back and see if the flag is gone. A stuck petition won't do anything if you've been legitimatly detained in a system by a flag.
And to be honest I wasn't making fun of you or anything, it just struck me as funny is all. You guys sound like you need some good leadership to succeed. If I was still in the pirating business I'd come help, but I'm just sorta waiting on shiva now.
M8 you missed 2 major parts of my post.
A) I was flagged for a full 34 mins
B) I dont give a flying donut what u think about my profession in game.
and for all the other idiots about to reply...
PIRACY IS ALLOWED IN 0.1 TO 0.4 BUT IT HAS BEEN DESTROYED, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ALOT EASIER TO MINE
Anyway hooray laugh at me.
I Will Blow You Up Later
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:04:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 20/09/2004 02:06:25
Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
I didnt go anywhere, I was sat with my "corpie" stillborn waiting for it to end, and it didnt for over 30 minutes
(and yes I always start a timer when i go shooting eejits ).
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:04:00 -
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Edited by: Crowley on 20/09/2004 02:06:25
Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
I didnt go anywhere, I was sat with my "corpie" stillborn waiting for it to end, and it didnt for over 30 minutes
(and yes I always start a timer when i go shooting eejits ).
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
You said play by the rules....where is this 30 minute rule?
And to come out with that crap just proves how little you know.
Thanks for your time.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
You said play by the rules....where is this 30 minute rule?
And to come out with that crap just proves how little you know.
Thanks for your time.
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Ripley13
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Stillborn
Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
You said play by the rules....where is this 30 minute rule?
And to come out with that crap just proves how little you know.
Thanks for your time.
I said no such thing so cut the elitest crap. I admitted my inexperience and said I wasn't sure about what I posted, I was just trying to be helpful. Not sure what your problem is stillborn but keep the attitude to yourself, if you're not going to contribute to the thread why post at all? Stroking your own ego?
To the OP, I'm not sure if the 30 minute thing is a bug. CCP should be able to review logs and tell you why it was flagged for longer than normal. Generally it disappears after 15 minutes, as you know. : ) Wish I could be more help.
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Ripley13
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Stillborn
Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
You said play by the rules....where is this 30 minute rule?
And to come out with that crap just proves how little you know.
Thanks for your time.
I said no such thing so cut the elitest crap. I admitted my inexperience and said I wasn't sure about what I posted, I was just trying to be helpful. Not sure what your problem is stillborn but keep the attitude to yourself, if you're not going to contribute to the thread why post at all? Stroking your own ego?
To the OP, I'm not sure if the 30 minute thing is a bug. CCP should be able to review logs and tell you why it was flagged for longer than normal. Generally it disappears after 15 minutes, as you know. : ) Wish I could be more help.
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Buggeh
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:55:00 -
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Im still fairly new at EVE, i'm a carebear, and i suck at pvp so much it isn't even funny, but yes, the flagging system in <0.4 systems is a bit silly and seem to hinder opportunities at pvp, which is imo the best part of EVE. There's been loads of other game developers ripping the soul out of their own games, I hope CCP dont.
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Dutch semi-carebear all-round character with lvl5 bad luck. |
Buggeh
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Posted - 2004.09.20 02:55:00 -
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Im still fairly new at EVE, i'm a carebear, and i suck at pvp so much it isn't even funny, but yes, the flagging system in <0.4 systems is a bit silly and seem to hinder opportunities at pvp, which is imo the best part of EVE. There's been loads of other game developers ripping the soul out of their own games, I hope CCP dont.
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Dutch semi-carebear all-round character with lvl5 bad luck. |
Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
You said play by the rules....where is this 30 minute rule?
And to come out with that crap just proves how little you know.
Thanks for your time.
I said no such thing so cut the elitest crap. I admitted my inexperience and said I wasn't sure about what I posted, I was just trying to be helpful. Not sure what your problem is stillborn but keep the attitude to yourself, if you're not going to contribute to the thread why post at all? Stroking your own ego?
To the OP, I'm not sure if the 30 minute thing is a bug. CCP should be able to review logs and tell you why it was flagged for longer than normal. Generally it disappears after 15 minutes, as you know. : ) Wish I could be more help.
Elitest? No. Right? Yes.
If you know nothing, shut up, or in the words of someone greater than you.....please unplug your keyboard. Thanks.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
Originally by: Ripley13
Originally by: Stillborn
There is no 30 minute rule
Now go away.
Who was this in response to? The only person I saw mention a 30 minute rule was the original poster, and even then he didn't mention it as a -rule- just said he'd been flagged more than 30 minutes. I believe the flag resets when you're seen by concord/sentry gun. Not sure though.
You said play by the rules....where is this 30 minute rule?
And to come out with that crap just proves how little you know.
Thanks for your time.
I said no such thing so cut the elitest crap. I admitted my inexperience and said I wasn't sure about what I posted, I was just trying to be helpful. Not sure what your problem is stillborn but keep the attitude to yourself, if you're not going to contribute to the thread why post at all? Stroking your own ego?
To the OP, I'm not sure if the 30 minute thing is a bug. CCP should be able to review logs and tell you why it was flagged for longer than normal. Generally it disappears after 15 minutes, as you know. : ) Wish I could be more help.
Elitest? No. Right? Yes.
If you know nothing, shut up, or in the words of someone greater than you.....please unplug your keyboard. Thanks.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Costamohgen
What, you think mOo didn't have to work within the rules as well? They didn't get special treatment, *snip*
Well anyone who has played eve for any length of time would remeber that when m0o got there name, the majority of gates below 0.5 in sec didnt have sentry guns, and there was no criminal flagging.
So using m0o as an example is void, so end yourself!
kthxbye.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:35:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Costamohgen
What, you think mOo didn't have to work within the rules as well? They didn't get special treatment, *snip*
Well anyone who has played eve for any length of time would remeber that when m0o got there name, the majority of gates below 0.5 in sec didnt have sentry guns, and there was no criminal flagging.
So using m0o as an example is void, so end yourself!
kthxbye.
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VossKarr
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: VossKarr on 20/09/2004 05:45:56
Why don't you guys, instead of orbiting the planets waiting for a flag to expire, hop into your pods, fly to a gate and make an insta BM out of the system? I'm not sure if it's allowed to pod flagged players in 0.1 and up, though, so there may be a risk of that happening, too. 
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VossKarr
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: VossKarr on 20/09/2004 05:45:56
Why don't you guys, instead of orbiting the planets waiting for a flag to expire, hop into your pods, fly to a gate and make an insta BM out of the system? I'm not sure if it's allowed to pod flagged players in 0.1 and up, though, so there may be a risk of that happening, too.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:55:00 -
[47]
Originally by: VossKarr
Edited by: VossKarr on 20/09/2004 05:45:56
Why don't you guys, instead of orbiting the planets waiting for a flag to expire, hop into your pods, fly to a gate and make an insta BM out of the system? I'm not sure if it's allowed to pod flagged players in 0.1 and up, though, so there may be a risk of that happening, too.
Oh risk, yep risk. Not something quite a few pirates handle well. 
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:55:00 -
[48]
Originally by: VossKarr
Edited by: VossKarr on 20/09/2004 05:45:56
Why don't you guys, instead of orbiting the planets waiting for a flag to expire, hop into your pods, fly to a gate and make an insta BM out of the system? I'm not sure if it's allowed to pod flagged players in 0.1 and up, though, so there may be a risk of that happening, too.
Oh risk, yep risk. Not something quite a few pirates handle well.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:57:00 -
[49]
Its a pity that concord and sentries are so overpowered these days, back in the old days in 0.8s it would take 20 to 30 seconds for concord to appear and then it would be only frigates.
In reality even though empire space security has gone too far the fact that certain pirate corps are the main reason that this has happened and if they had shown restraint currant pirates wouldnt be in the situation they are now.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.09.20 05:57:00 -
[50]
Its a pity that concord and sentries are so overpowered these days, back in the old days in 0.8s it would take 20 to 30 seconds for concord to appear and then it would be only frigates.
In reality even though empire space security has gone too far the fact that certain pirate corps are the main reason that this has happened and if they had shown restraint currant pirates wouldnt be in the situation they are now.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.09.20 07:41:00 -
[51]
There is 1 problem with pirating in 0.0: its not a crime to destroy ships and kill people in 0.0, since we do not get sec. hits there
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.09.20 07:41:00 -
[52]
There is 1 problem with pirating in 0.0: its not a crime to destroy ships and kill people in 0.0, since we do not get sec. hits there
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2004.09.20 08:20:00 -
[53]
0.0-0.0 = Pirate playground
0.1-0.4 = Mixed playground
0.5-1.0 = "Safe" playground
See, there's a logic!
- You wan't hunt in 0.0? That's ok
- You wan't hunt in 0.4? That's ok, but you can't leave the system for 30mins
- You wan't hunt in 0.5? Not allowed, you die.
SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR |
Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2004.09.20 08:20:00 -
[54]
0.0-0.0 = Pirate playground
0.1-0.4 = Mixed playground
0.5-1.0 = "Safe" playground
See, there's a logic!
- You wan't hunt in 0.0? That's ok
- You wan't hunt in 0.4? That's ok, but you can't leave the system for 30mins
- You wan't hunt in 0.5? Not allowed, you die.
SigPl/HQ&Log Coy/MNB(C)/KFOR |
Aelita
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:21:00 -
[55]
Crowley...
If you are sick, then try something with brain. Like other did say insta BM will work. You should wait too or find another pray in belts not going to gates. You can kill people inside system as long as you want. I see you are afraid being punished for your crime I don't see any other reason why you want leave system and do pirating in other system.
FYI it's easy for you to move outside system. Just put another ship on safe spot in surrounding arrea. Leave your ship in system where you was flagged as criminal and go to other system jump in your brand new ship and go on.
Where is your problem? You wanna be carebear-pirate? If yes then I feel sorry for you...
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Aelita
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:21:00 -
[56]
Crowley...
If you are sick, then try something with brain. Like other did say insta BM will work. You should wait too or find another pray in belts not going to gates. You can kill people inside system as long as you want. I see you are afraid being punished for your crime I don't see any other reason why you want leave system and do pirating in other system.
FYI it's easy for you to move outside system. Just put another ship on safe spot in surrounding arrea. Leave your ship in system where you was flagged as criminal and go to other system jump in your brand new ship and go on.
Where is your problem? You wanna be carebear-pirate? If yes then I feel sorry for you...
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Schroni
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:51:00 -
[57]
hmm... most of the people who replyed to the original post didn't notice that this wasn't a whine about the criminal flag at all...
it's only about that even if CCP said the timer is 15 minutes, it's NOT 15 minutes quite often.
Sometimes it's 15, sometimes it's 30 minutes, thats the problem...
I have no problem with the timer, it only sucks that can never know if you're still flagged or not!
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SNIGG Forums my videos |
Schroni
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:51:00 -
[58]
hmm... most of the people who replyed to the original post didn't notice that this wasn't a whine about the criminal flag at all...
it's only about that even if CCP said the timer is 15 minutes, it's NOT 15 minutes quite often.
Sometimes it's 15, sometimes it's 30 minutes, thats the problem...
I have no problem with the timer, it only sucks that can never know if you're still flagged or not!
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SNIGG Forums my videos |
Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:06:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Schroni
hmm... most of the people who replyed to the original post didn't notice that this wasn't a whine about the criminal flag at all...
it's only about that even if CCP said the timer is 15 minutes, it's NOT 15 minutes quite often.
Sometimes it's 15, sometimes it's 30 minutes, thats the problem...
I have no problem with the timer, it only sucks that can never know if you're still flagged or not!
OMG Someone's finally got it. Hallelujah
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:06:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Schroni
hmm... most of the people who replyed to the original post didn't notice that this wasn't a whine about the criminal flag at all...
it's only about that even if CCP said the timer is 15 minutes, it's NOT 15 minutes quite often.
Sometimes it's 15, sometimes it's 30 minutes, thats the problem...
I have no problem with the timer, it only sucks that can never know if you're still flagged or not!
OMG Someone's finally got it. Hallelujah
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:41:00 -
[61]
and sometimes sentries just shoot you 
nah pirating in empire is sometimes fun, had some of my funniest battles there
(to bad neither xpohoc or me had fraps running)
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:41:00 -
[62]
and sometimes sentries just shoot you
nah pirating in empire is sometimes fun, had some of my funniest battles there
(to bad neither xpohoc or me had fraps running)
Wanna fly with me?
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:00:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Sybylle on 20/09/2004 13:05:31
Originally by: Stillborn
Originally by: Schroni
hmm... most of the people who replyed to the original post didn't notice that this wasn't a whine about the criminal flag at all...
it's only about that even if CCP said the timer is 15 minutes, it's NOT 15 minutes quite often.
Sometimes it's 15, sometimes it's 30 minutes, thats the problem...
I have no problem with the timer, it only sucks that can never know if you're still flagged or not!
OMG Someone's finally got it. Hallelujah
Well...It's in fact supposed to last 15 minutes, from the last agression.
So normally you have to wait 15 plain minutes without agressing anything before the flag leaves.
Anyway it seems a bit borked...This isn't the first time it happens...
And please people...Try to read before flaming.
You should remember that pirates are part of the game, and as other players, they have the right to complain about something not working at all or as it should work...
Edit(before somebody asks) : I'm not affiliated to any pirate corp, nor any of my alts...In fact they would consider me as a carebear ^^"
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)=Oveur (proof)
"Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:00:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Sybylle on 20/09/2004 13:05:31
Originally by: Stillborn
Originally by: Schroni
hmm... most of the people who replyed to the original post didn't notice that this wasn't a whine about the criminal flag at all...
it's only about that even if CCP said the timer is 15 minutes, it's NOT 15 minutes quite often.
Sometimes it's 15, sometimes it's 30 minutes, thats the problem...
I have no problem with the timer, it only sucks that can never know if you're still flagged or not!
OMG Someone's finally got it. Hallelujah
Well...It's in fact supposed to last 15 minutes, from the last agression.
So normally you have to wait 15 plain minutes without agressing anything before the flag leaves.
Anyway it seems a bit borked...This isn't the first time it happens...
And please people...Try to read before flaming.
You should remember that pirates are part of the game, and as other players, they have the right to complain about something not working at all or as it should work...
Edit(before somebody asks) : I'm not affiliated to any pirate corp, nor any of my alts...In fact they would consider me as a carebear ^^"
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <)=Oveur (proof)
"Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:06:00 -
[65]
Hey Crowley, I have a solution to your problem...
Don't shoot anyone in Empire Controlled Space, then you wont have to worry about the timer at all ;)
Bye :)
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.20 13:06:00 -
[66]
Hey Crowley, I have a solution to your problem...
Don't shoot anyone in Empire Controlled Space, then you wont have to worry about the timer at all ;)
Bye :)
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.20 14:05:00 -
[67]
"yeah, man. it was hot! got away with all this primo loot! barely had to lift a finger at all. it was just asking to be taken!"
"but we had to run from those damn pigs afterward. we took off accross the docks and holled up in this warehouse loft. cops crawlin' all over the place man! we tried moving slowly from building to building. there were just too many! we finally had to sneak into an broken down lift crane they use to grab stuff from the barges. s'a good thing we were at the docks, too. friggin' fish smell messes up them khey-nine units pretty good."
"we got outta there around 4am. 6 hours camping out from the pigs and their hounds. not fun, man. not fun... but the loot was worth it!!"
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
flummox
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Posted - 2004.09.20 14:05:00 -
[68]
"yeah, man. it was hot! got away with all this primo loot! barely had to lift a finger at all. it was just asking to be taken!"
"but we had to run from those damn pigs afterward. we took off accross the docks and holled up in this warehouse loft. cops crawlin' all over the place man! we tried moving slowly from building to building. there were just too many! we finally had to sneak into an broken down lift crane they use to grab stuff from the barges. s'a good thing we were at the docks, too. friggin' fish smell messes up them khey-nine units pretty good."
"we got outta there around 4am. 6 hours camping out from the pigs and their hounds. not fun, man. not fun... but the loot was worth it!!"
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 15:10:00 -
[69]
All I want is an icon saying "I'm still flagged".
If I had been out and about last night solo and I got hit with a 34 minute flag I would have lost a ship after 15 minutes because that how long the timer is supposed to be.
As to the ppl whining about piracy in empire. Grow a brain yourselves and read before opening your gobs.
Fe Fi Fo Fum, I smell the fur of some carebear scum. 
YAAAAAAAR
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 15:10:00 -
[70]
All I want is an icon saying "I'm still flagged".
If I had been out and about last night solo and I got hit with a 34 minute flag I would have lost a ship after 15 minutes because that how long the timer is supposed to be.
As to the ppl whining about piracy in empire. Grow a brain yourselves and read before opening your gobs.
Fe Fi Fo Fum, I smell the fur of some carebear scum.
YAAAAAAAR
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.20 15:32:00 -
[71]
jep an icon would be nice
when you have no drones left its just annoying to guess
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.09.20 15:32:00 -
[72]
jep an icon would be nice
when you have no drones left its just annoying to guess
Wanna fly with me?
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.20 15:48:00 -
[73]
Quote:
As to the ppl whining about piracy in empire. Grow a brain yourselves and read before opening your gobs
Nah...
It's too much fun to just haul off and flame you...
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"for piece sakes!" |
Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.20 15:48:00 -
[74]
Quote:
As to the ppl whining about piracy in empire. Grow a brain yourselves and read before opening your gobs
Nah...
It's too much fun to just haul off and flame you...
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"for piece sakes!" |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:01:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Avon on 20/09/2004 16:04:07
Originally by: VossKarr
Edited by: VossKarr on 20/09/2004 05:45:56
Why don't you guys, instead of orbiting the planets waiting for a flag to expire, hop into your pods, fly to a gate and make an insta BM out of the system? I'm not sure if it's allowed to pod flagged players in 0.1 and up, though, so there may be a risk of that happening, too.
Why would you bother doing that?
The sentry guns in the next system won't be any nicer to you.
The current implementation of criminal flagging is bad enough, but it doesn't even work as stated (time limits too random) - unacceptable.
______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:01:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Avon on 20/09/2004 16:04:07
Originally by: VossKarr
Edited by: VossKarr on 20/09/2004 05:45:56
Why don't you guys, instead of orbiting the planets waiting for a flag to expire, hop into your pods, fly to a gate and make an insta BM out of the system? I'm not sure if it's allowed to pod flagged players in 0.1 and up, though, so there may be a risk of that happening, too.
Why would you bother doing that?
The sentry guns in the next system won't be any nicer to you.
The current implementation of criminal flagging is bad enough, but it doesn't even work as stated (time limits too random) - unacceptable.
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Never argue with idiots.
They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:06:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 20/09/2004 16:12:24
Camping a busy low sec system with n00bs in cruisers works better then insta bms.
Simply gank anyone and their mother several times and ruin their day as much as you can.
Sure its less fun the normal pirating but if CCP thinks thats how pirating is supposed to work then i wont argue... 
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[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:06:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 20/09/2004 16:12:24
Camping a busy low sec system with n00bs in cruisers works better then insta bms.
Simply gank anyone and their mother several times and ruin their day as much as you can.
Sure its less fun the normal pirating but if CCP thinks thats how pirating is supposed to work then i wont argue...
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[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:18:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Schroni
hmm... most of the people who replyed to the original post didn't notice that this wasn't a whine about the criminal flag at all...
Oh, I noticed right away that it was about the fact that he had to wait 30 mins, instead of the 15 it should normally be, and thus it was some sort of bug that he was reporting and asking confirmation of. But, well, I hate pirates, and I had nothing nice to say, so I didn't post.
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:18:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Schroni
hmm... most of the people who replyed to the original post didn't notice that this wasn't a whine about the criminal flag at all...
Oh, I noticed right away that it was about the fact that he had to wait 30 mins, instead of the 15 it should normally be, and thus it was some sort of bug that he was reporting and asking confirmation of. But, well, I hate pirates, and I had nothing nice to say, so I didn't post.
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:20:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote:
As to the ppl whining about piracy in empire. Grow a brain yourselves and read before opening your gobs
Nah...
It's too much fun to just haul off and flame you...
Shhhhhhh
.
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:20:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote:
As to the ppl whining about piracy in empire. Grow a brain yourselves and read before opening your gobs
Nah...
It's too much fun to just haul off and flame you...
Shhhhhhh
.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:24:00 -
[83]
I'm indifferent to the actual rule as I believe there should be some kind of NPC reaction to your criminal activites but the least CCP could do is ensure the 15 minute countdown IS 15 minutes.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:24:00 -
[84]
I'm indifferent to the actual rule as I believe there should be some kind of NPC reaction to your criminal activites but the least CCP could do is ensure the 15 minute countdown IS 15 minutes.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:26:00 -
[85]
NPC roleplaying?!?!!11111oneoneeleventyone!!
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Crowley
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:26:00 -
[86]
NPC roleplaying?!?!!11111oneoneeleventyone!!
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:57:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Barth3zzzNL
Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 20/09/2004 16:12:24
Camping a busy low sec system with n00bs in cruisers works better then insta bms.
Simply gank anyone and their mother several times and ruin their day as much as you can.
Sure its less fun the normal pirating but if CCP thinks thats how pirating is supposed to work then i wont argue...
YAAARRRRRR!!!1!1
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.09.20 16:57:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Barth3zzzNL
Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 20/09/2004 16:12:24
Camping a busy low sec system with n00bs in cruisers works better then insta bms.
Simply gank anyone and their mother several times and ruin their day as much as you can.
Sure its less fun the normal pirating but if CCP thinks thats how pirating is supposed to work then i wont argue...
YAAARRRRRR!!!1!1
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.21 00:42:00 -
[89]
People. Please read the first post..and Understand it
If you cant be bothered, please go away, that includes all you trolls.
Anyway, please lock this thread as the amount of dumbasses is getting me down. Gah.
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Stillborn
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Posted - 2004.09.21 00:42:00 -
[90]
People. Please read the first post..and Understand it
If you cant be bothered, please go away, that includes all you trolls.
Anyway, please lock this thread as the amount of dumbasses is getting me down. Gah.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.21 02:17:00 -
[91]
Quote:
Anyway, please lock this thread as the amount of dumbasses is getting me down. Gah
Then don't ******* read the thread dude...
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.21 02:17:00 -
[92]
Quote:
Anyway, please lock this thread as the amount of dumbasses is getting me down. Gah
Then don't ******* read the thread dude...
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"for piece sakes!" |
Xhalax
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Posted - 2004.09.21 03:23:00 -
[93]
Well I'm hate Pkers & I'm not even that interested in PvP.
But what annoys me is that there is an apparent bug in the system (criminal flagging timing).
It's a pain especially seeing there is no easy way to tell if you are flagged.
And what this I hear about concord response to blowing up jetisonned cans... I mean wtf is up with that... HELLO it's jetisoned. |
Xhalax
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Posted - 2004.09.21 03:23:00 -
[94]
Well I'm hate Pkers & I'm not even that interested in PvP.
But what annoys me is that there is an apparent bug in the system (criminal flagging timing).
It's a pain especially seeing there is no easy way to tell if you are flagged.
And what this I hear about concord response to blowing up jetisonned cans... I mean wtf is up with that... HELLO it's jetisoned. |
Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.09.21 04:46:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 21/09/2004 04:49:19
30 minutes in space is too long. Some penalty is reasonable, but 30 is wacky. Is it by chance resetting every time you warp back to check?
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.09.21 04:46:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Bobby Wilson on 21/09/2004 04:49:19
30 minutes in space is too long. Some penalty is reasonable, but 30 is wacky. Is it by chance resetting every time you warp back to check?
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.09.21 08:04:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
I'm indifferent to the actual rule as I believe there should be some kind of NPC reaction to your criminal activites but the least CCP could do is ensure the 15 minute countdown IS 15 minutes.
1.) 15 minute flag only if the act of agression takes place within sight of an NPC installation (gate/station). Then all NPC items in system are agressive towards the flagged guy.
2.) 2-4 hours (more even!) of flagging towards the victim / victims corps / everyone in eve, allowing the ebil pirate to be a free target for everyone.
Maybe with that kinda situation we'd see people self policing themselves, and as an added benefit the NPC reaction would be sane (i.e. wouldn't happen if the guns cant see the rat in a belt!).
Criminal flagging needs a rethink.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.09.21 08:04:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
I'm indifferent to the actual rule as I believe there should be some kind of NPC reaction to your criminal activites but the least CCP could do is ensure the 15 minute countdown IS 15 minutes.
1.) 15 minute flag only if the act of agression takes place within sight of an NPC installation (gate/station). Then all NPC items in system are agressive towards the flagged guy.
2.) 2-4 hours (more even!) of flagging towards the victim / victims corps / everyone in eve, allowing the ebil pirate to be a free target for everyone.
Maybe with that kinda situation we'd see people self policing themselves, and as an added benefit the NPC reaction would be sane (i.e. wouldn't happen if the guns cant see the rat in a belt!).
Criminal flagging needs a rethink.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.21 09:12:00 -
[99]
It sucks that criminal flagging is not working properly. It is *technically* a good idea. Just a poor implementation.
And all the babies that come crawling out of the woodwork to laugh at the 'bad man' are the most pitiful creatures in eve. I don't have words to explain how weak you are.
The fact that you don't see the need of the role played by the pirates just goes to show your short-sightedness, selfishness, cowardice and greed.
I laugh at you all, for *you* are the true scum.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.09.21 09:12:00 -
[100]
It sucks that criminal flagging is not working properly. It is *technically* a good idea. Just a poor implementation.
And all the babies that come crawling out of the woodwork to laugh at the 'bad man' are the most pitiful creatures in eve. I don't have words to explain how weak you are.
The fact that you don't see the need of the role played by the pirates just goes to show your short-sightedness, selfishness, cowardice and greed.
I laugh at you all, for *you* are the true scum.
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