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Gyles
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:42:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion - Lomithrandra
The widely popular MMORPG, Earth And Beyond, which went live in Sept. 02, is sadly, ending this week on the 22nd.
Good news for EvE however is that many of these players will be testing EvE, as it is the next closest genre to EnB.
So please join me in the effort to welome those players who wish to try out this great game :)
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Gyles
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Posted - 2004.09.20 09:42:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion - Lomithrandra
The widely popular MMORPG, Earth And Beyond, which went live in Sept. 02, is sadly, ending this week on the 22nd.
Good news for EvE however is that many of these players will be testing EvE, as it is the next closest genre to EnB.
So please join me in the effort to welome those players who wish to try out this great game :)
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Meehan
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:20:00 -
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Imagine this post appearing in a few years at some other game's website, only it's about EVE 
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Meehan
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:20:00 -
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Imagine this post appearing in a few years at some other game's website, only it's about EVE
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Zarik Wan
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:32:00 -
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Imagine this post appearing in a few years at some other game's website, only it's about EVE
Never! well perhaps one day... but that will be for the release of EVE2 or something to that effect. 
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Go n'ÚirÝ an t-ßdh leat (Good Luck
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Zarik Wan
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:32:00 -
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Quote:
Imagine this post appearing in a few years at some other game's website, only it's about EVE
Never! well perhaps one day... but that will be for the release of EVE2 or something to that effect.
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Go n'ÚirÝ an t-ßdh leat (Good Luck
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Claire Scott
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:43:00 -
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Does CCP have a special offer to draw them over still or is that deal over already?
-E
If you're not running with the pack, you're prey . . . |
Claire Scott
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:43:00 -
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Does CCP have a special offer to draw them over still or is that deal over already?
-E
If you're not running with the pack, you're prey . . . |
Fuse
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:56:00 -
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Allot of the guys that are there are die hard carebears.  They are very pist at EA for closing EnB. I wonder when CCP will shut this game down. Carebears pay the bills so they are good too  . I hope this game does not go the EA way. I'm here to stay to the end though.
0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
Fuse
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Posted - 2004.09.20 10:56:00 -
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Allot of the guys that are there are die hard carebears. They are very pist at EA for closing EnB. I wonder when CCP will shut this game down. Carebears pay the bills so they are good too . I hope this game does not go the EA way. I'm here to stay to the end though.
0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.20 11:08:00 -
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I hope this game does not go the EA way. I'm here to stay to the end though.
No, not going to happen...
I played EnB, and that game seemed doomed from the very beginning due to poor EA management decisions...
EVE may have a lot of gameplay issues, but, for the most part every patch improves the game, and the game is continually gaining subscribers.
EVE should be around for at least 3-4 more years IMHO...
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"for piece sakes!" |
Bhaal
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Posted - 2004.09.20 11:08:00 -
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Quote:
I hope this game does not go the EA way. I'm here to stay to the end though.
No, not going to happen...
I played EnB, and that game seemed doomed from the very beginning due to poor EA management decisions...
EVE may have a lot of gameplay issues, but, for the most part every patch improves the game, and the game is continually gaining subscribers.
EVE should be around for at least 3-4 more years IMHO...
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"for piece sakes!" |
hired goon
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:04:00 -
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There was a lot of inter-community flaming during development of these games. Eve was always the underdog... a tiny icelandic company VS large US corporation. I think it's fantastic that Eve finally came out on top - it proves that games can't just adhere to a formula that means it should be technically successful. A work of art like eve is what is needed for
My boss is coming, bbl
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We come in peace. And tanks. |
hired goon
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:04:00 -
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There was a lot of inter-community flaming during development of these games. Eve was always the underdog... a tiny icelandic company VS large US corporation. I think it's fantastic that Eve finally came out on top - it proves that games can't just adhere to a formula that means it should be technically successful. A work of art like eve is what is needed for
My boss is coming, bbl
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We come in peace. And tanks. |
irata
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:39:00 -
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EA seems to be one the worst companies in the games business. They hardly support their own games, if it isn't succesfull enough => Can It. If it is succesfull => make endless yearly updates. Madden Football anyone, SSX and many others. I think the mmo businessmodel isn't really understood by EA. EA understands the Big Hype High X-Mas selling type of games. Apart from Sony, who's mmo started out with a small comp Verant, all the succesfull mmo companies are pretty small. Not a bad thing in my humble view: they seem to be better at keeping in touch with their players.
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irata
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:39:00 -
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EA seems to be one the worst companies in the games business. They hardly support their own games, if it isn't succesfull enough => Can It. If it is succesfull => make endless yearly updates. Madden Football anyone, SSX and many others. I think the mmo businessmodel isn't really understood by EA. EA understands the Big Hype High X-Mas selling type of games. Apart from Sony, who's mmo started out with a small comp Verant, all the succesfull mmo companies are pretty small. Not a bad thing in my humble view: they seem to be better at keeping in touch with their players.
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 20/09/2004 12:49:20
Originally by: Bhaal
I played EnB, and that game seemed doomed from the very beginning due to poor EA management decisions...
EVE may have a lot of gameplay issues, but, for the most part every patch improves the game, and the game is continually gaining subscribers.
EVE should be around for at least 3-4 more years IMHO...
Agreed completely. It could've been so much. Instead it got rushed out the door and cut off at the knees, when as a half-finished product it didn't meet their immediate expectations. Everything else after that was just delaying the inevitable.
EA may know how to run a massive corporation but they know NOTHING about how to handle a concept that isn't a beaten path with every option already laid out for them. Ultima Online is by no means original, and TSO is circling the drain. As for any of EA's other products, they're either movie/sports franchises or soulless sequels of titles from companies it's swallowed up.
I dunno... if one were to look at the concept of Earth & Beyond and what EA threw at the public, it's comparable to taking the blueprint for a Rolls-Royce and telling the engineers, "Here. Your funding is what you can dig out of the couch cushions. We want this ready and functioning in 72 hours."
After that disillusioning experience, I gotta say I love how CCP runs their show. I'll be around a while to come with the way this game's playing out to me and the changes that are on the horizon.
(though if only they'd make the environment more lively...)
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.09.20 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 20/09/2004 12:49:20
Originally by: Bhaal
I played EnB, and that game seemed doomed from the very beginning due to poor EA management decisions...
EVE may have a lot of gameplay issues, but, for the most part every patch improves the game, and the game is continually gaining subscribers.
EVE should be around for at least 3-4 more years IMHO...
Agreed completely. It could've been so much. Instead it got rushed out the door and cut off at the knees, when as a half-finished product it didn't meet their immediate expectations. Everything else after that was just delaying the inevitable.
EA may know how to run a massive corporation but they know NOTHING about how to handle a concept that isn't a beaten path with every option already laid out for them. Ultima Online is by no means original, and TSO is circling the drain. As for any of EA's other products, they're either movie/sports franchises or soulless sequels of titles from companies it's swallowed up.
I dunno... if one were to look at the concept of Earth & Beyond and what EA threw at the public, it's comparable to taking the blueprint for a Rolls-Royce and telling the engineers, "Here. Your funding is what you can dig out of the couch cushions. We want this ready and functioning in 72 hours."
After that disillusioning experience, I gotta say I love how CCP runs their show. I'll be around a while to come with the way this game's playing out to me and the changes that are on the horizon.
(though if only they'd make the environment more lively...)
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Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |
hired goon
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Seto Mazzarotto
Agreed completely. It could've been so much. Instead it got rushed out the door and cut off at the knees
Eve was also rushed out the door a bit... In beta we were still struggling with bugs on the last day and we couldn't believe it was going gold. Then someone told us it had gone gold a few patches ago, and would be released as an earlier version than the one we were playing! 
It's still being made to this day. And it still manages to be better than EnB.
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We come in peace. And tanks. |
hired goon
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Posted - 2004.09.21 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Seto Mazzarotto
Agreed completely. It could've been so much. Instead it got rushed out the door and cut off at the knees
Eve was also rushed out the door a bit... In beta we were still struggling with bugs on the last day and we couldn't believe it was going gold. Then someone told us it had gone gold a few patches ago, and would be released as an earlier version than the one we were playing!
It's still being made to this day. And it still manages to be better than EnB.
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We come in peace. And tanks. |
Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.09.21 11:55:00 -
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well morow at the 22.9 there will never be again a jd flying around riping mobs with his plasma wepons or a progen warrior firing pure death out of his 6 guns.
ea sux ! if e&B wasnt killd i would be still there and play it but they killd it with bad suport an poor management thoos noobs there.....
well as a lil reminder:
Soulkeeper terran enforcer levl 149 (pegalag)
grisworld jenquai defender levl 148 (pegalag)
mondkalb progen sentinel levl 146 (pegalag)
frigatte jenqui explorer levl 150 (andromeda)
bruiser terran trader lvl 150 (andromeda)
and a few more alts who where made for testings ....
i thank thoos alts for 1 and a half year of fun and fantastic adventures i will never forget them
also thx to the guys from e&b who played with me maybee see ya in eve?!
and a big thx to CCP for giving me a new homeuniverse to live in.
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.09.21 11:55:00 -
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well morow at the 22.9 there will never be again a jd flying around riping mobs with his plasma wepons or a progen warrior firing pure death out of his 6 guns.
ea sux ! if e&B wasnt killd i would be still there and play it but they killd it with bad suport an poor management thoos noobs there.....
well as a lil reminder:
Soulkeeper terran enforcer levl 149 (pegalag)
grisworld jenquai defender levl 148 (pegalag)
mondkalb progen sentinel levl 146 (pegalag)
frigatte jenqui explorer levl 150 (andromeda)
bruiser terran trader lvl 150 (andromeda)
and a few more alts who where made for testings ....
i thank thoos alts for 1 and a half year of fun and fantastic adventures i will never forget them
also thx to the guys from e&b who played with me maybee see ya in eve?!
and a big thx to CCP for giving me a new homeuniverse to live in.
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.09.21 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 21/09/2004 16:51:09
Originally by: hired goon
Eve was also rushed out the door a bit... In beta we were still struggling with bugs on the last day and we couldn't believe it was going gold. Then someone told us it had gone gold a few patches ago, and would be released as an earlier version than the one we were playing!
It's still being made to this day. And it still manages to be better than EnB.
The difference is that EVE's got a company that cares if it lives or dies. When was the last time the devs here ever said 'insufficient resources'? Or, of course, said that some simple information (which every player should have known) was classified -- like how in their developer logs right before the end they just clammed up and wouldn't say anything.
EA's idea of running an MMO is something along the lines of this:
1: Rush title out door to beat competition
2: Cut funding to still ensure profit after it starts to lose subscribers.
3: Advertising? What? No, only EA products get advertising, this is just the bastard child of our Westwood assimilation.
4: Relocate devs to other projects and leave those left with all the work.
5: Slash funding again and start to grumble over this product not performing to expectations. By this point, game patches have bugs a mile wide and take weeks to repair.
6: Decide the game is better left buried and shaft every remaining player on the servers.
7: And of course, run like a little girl when asked about it at E3.
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Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |
Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.09.21 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Seto Mazzarotto on 21/09/2004 16:51:09
Originally by: hired goon
Eve was also rushed out the door a bit... In beta we were still struggling with bugs on the last day and we couldn't believe it was going gold. Then someone told us it had gone gold a few patches ago, and would be released as an earlier version than the one we were playing!
It's still being made to this day. And it still manages to be better than EnB.
The difference is that EVE's got a company that cares if it lives or dies. When was the last time the devs here ever said 'insufficient resources'? Or, of course, said that some simple information (which every player should have known) was classified -- like how in their developer logs right before the end they just clammed up and wouldn't say anything.
EA's idea of running an MMO is something along the lines of this:
1: Rush title out door to beat competition
2: Cut funding to still ensure profit after it starts to lose subscribers.
3: Advertising? What? No, only EA products get advertising, this is just the bastard child of our Westwood assimilation.
4: Relocate devs to other projects and leave those left with all the work.
5: Slash funding again and start to grumble over this product not performing to expectations. By this point, game patches have bugs a mile wide and take weeks to repair.
6: Decide the game is better left buried and shaft every remaining player on the servers.
7: And of course, run like a little girl when asked about it at E3.
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Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |
IZON
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Posted - 2004.09.21 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Meehan
Imagine this post appearing in a few years at some other game's website, only it's about EVE
Scary, every mmorpg has a shelf life including EVE.
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |
IZON
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Posted - 2004.09.21 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Meehan
Imagine this post appearing in a few years at some other game's website, only it's about EVE
Scary, every mmorpg has a shelf life including EVE.
"...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!" |
MrBinary
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Posted - 2004.09.21 21:59:00 -
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Anyone know where I might be able to get ahold of a few of the music tracks from the game? I've got a few cuts, but there are some that I remember that I haven't been able to locate.
Regards,
MrBinary
"[ 2004.05.20 20:11:42 ] Hodal Xibur > Die MrBinary" |
MrBinary
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Posted - 2004.09.21 21:59:00 -
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Anyone know where I might be able to get ahold of a few of the music tracks from the game? I've got a few cuts, but there are some that I remember that I haven't been able to locate.
Regards,
MrBinary
"[ 2004.05.20 20:11:42 ] Hodal Xibur > Die MrBinary" |
Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.09.22 18:11:00 -
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A moment of silence... for as of now, Earth & Beyond is no more. Servers are shut off, the game is gone for good.
Here's to long life and prosperity in EVE.
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Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |
Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2004.09.22 18:11:00 -
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A moment of silence... for as of now, Earth & Beyond is no more. Servers are shut off, the game is gone for good.
Here's to long life and prosperity in EVE.
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Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |
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