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Ronja Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.25 15:31:00 - [1] why? - because! 1) rotate the station a bit; stupid insta warp undock is VERY unprofitable 2) lower the sec status of the system, it's currently a 0.4!!! C'mon, we work soo hard to depopulate the area, how about a 0.1 ? 3) nice to have request; put a station in Sharuveil; that enourmous systemm is such a waste of space; how about place a +4 agent in there or something.....and/ or...make it a 0.0 system surrounded by high sec !!!!
Lirune Sharmier Gallente Chimera Raiders	Posted - 2009.06.25 19:40:00 - [2] I second this vote. To expand on Ronja's qualms with the two-system pocket of low-sec: Undocking from the Decon station leaves you immediately at-speed, aligned to the gate to high-sec (Balle System) and you have 30 seconds of invulnerability to hit the warp button. There is no possible way to gank anyone leaving the station unless they decide to align to something other than the gate. The constant, swift, and complete violence that takes place within the system itself should merit it's security status being dropped. The only reason I can see to keep it as a 0.4 system is because the next jump to high sec is 0.5 Sharuveil is almost worthless as a system. It is 120+ AU from gate to gate, there are no stations, the belts aren't worth spitting on, and the rats are very poor pickings. A station would bring much needed life to this low-sec pocket, or even transferring the Decon station to shar would quite possibly be all the improvement needed.
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.25 19:54:00 - [3] Supporting a station turning effort. Perhaps if we all got out of our ships and pushed...
Abuta Beki	Posted - 2009.06.25 20:15:00 - [4] Oh, pirate tears. Delicious. So you can't gank everyone you want. What a shame. How about you go somewhere else?
Major Reach Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.06.25 20:16:00 - [5] Originally by: Ronja why? - because! 1) rotate the station a bit; stupid insta warp undock is VERY unprofitable But it does help with getting to the gate faster to catch things there. Originally by: Ronja 2) lower the sec status of the system, it's currently a 0.4!!! C'mon, we work soo hard to depopulate the area, how about a 0.1 ? Do we wanna give people a reason to put pos' up in decon? 0_0 Originally by: Ronja 3) nice to have request; put a station in Sharuveil; that enourmous systemm is such a waste of space; how about place a +4 agent in there or something.....and/ or...make it a 0.0 system surrounded by high sec !!!! Lol that'd be kinda funny i guess. I laugh at your ideas Ronja! hahaha.
Ronja Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.25 20:18:00 - [6] Edited by: Ronja on 25/06/2009 20:19:22 think about it that way, the more kills we get in low sec the less hulk die in high sec PS ever since major been dropped on his head things just aren't the same
Herzog Wolfhammer	Posted - 2009.06.26 07:11:00 - [7] Don't know about the station turning thing. But a system status changing in security rating.... that could make things interesting, and things could go either way. Some systems might go up in status too. "security holes", pipelines, borders.... all shifting one way or the other. And people will have to struggle to keep things the way they are, OR change them if they feel a need to. Pirates driven back as sure as carebears are driven away. yes.
Vyrk	Posted - 2009.06.26 08:35:00 - [8] Certainly change the sec status to 0.5; sounds good to me.
King Rothgar Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.26 11:46:00 - [9] Decon is definately a -1.0 true sec system. The info at the top left corner of the screen should reflect that. Maybe align the station to sharu, still instawarp out, but instawarp to another low sec where you might get caught if you suck at traveling through low sec. Also, yeah, give us a good agent that someone may actually want to use, even if it's just us when we're bored. -----------------------------------------------------
Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic	Posted - 2009.06.26 11:56:00 - [10] This one get's a "boohoo" from me. Come on out to 0.0 where you can use bubbles if you want to stop people from warping. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic

De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.06.26 17:14:00 - [11] I cannot support turning the station at this time. The view from the 13th window from the left is the only reason to visit that station. --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
Anya Sythen	Posted - 2009.06.26 17:33:00 - [12] As a carebear, I support these changes.
Meyr Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2009.06.26 20:42:00 - [13] Edited by: Meyr on 26/06/2009 20:44:32 Edited by: Meyr on 26/06/2009 20:43:33 You have the Balle storyline agent regularly sending low SP, inexperienced players into Decon like clockwork, so you barely have to actually work, and are rarely exposed to someone who might actually threaten the shiny paint job on your ships, and you're whining? Awww... How about changing the storyline agent in Balle so she won't send noob characters into Decon? Make her a level 4 storyline agent, so the PVE'rs who venture into there are skilled enough to effectively return fire. Make the the pirates who want to hunt them actually fight someone who can shoot back. Eve University - Send us your noobs, we'll send you back well-educated noobs!!
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Meyr Edited by: Meyr on 26/06/2009 20:44:32 Edited by: Meyr on 26/06/2009 20:43:33 You have the Balle storyline agent regularly sending low SP, inexperienced players into Decon like clockwork, so you barely have to actually work, and are rarely exposed to someone who might actually threaten the shiny paint job on your ships, and you're whining? Awww... How about changing the storyline agent in Balle so she won't send noob characters into Decon? Make her a level 4 storyline agent, so the PVE'rs who venture into there are skilled enough to effectively return fire. Make the the pirates who want to hunt them actually fight someone who can shoot back. Orrrrrrrr, The mission runner does not have to accept the mission the storyline agent offers if it takes them into Decon. By accepting a mission into Decon they are accepting an increased level of risk. I see no problem with agents sending mission runners into low sec areas like Decon, its a balance of risk vs. reward. And if the storyline agent sent a steady stream of lvl 4 mission runners into Decon, we would be happy little pirates . Lvl 4 mission runners generally have more ISK in their wallets and willing to pay ransoms. However, if they dont, they pop pretty quickly. Remember, PVE fits are not PVP fits.
Meyr Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2009.06.27 01:13:00 - [15] Edited by: Meyr on 27/06/2009 01:13:35 Here's where we get to the "Low Sec is horribly broken" part of the arguement - In what way can you possibly imagine that the reward from the mission, or even 5 or 6 missions, will equal the risk? "It's all about risk versus reward"... Bull. The risks FAR outweigh the rewards, particularly for the noobs who make up the VAST majority of your victims. How does a few thousand ISK equal what you rob from them? A level one or two storyline gives damned little reward, yet you ask them to assume all the risk, with damned near none for you. Where's YOUR "risk vs. reward"? There's quite a bit of reward, but very little risk - and you're still complaining about the few who you can't gank, because "the station undock points them directly at the gate". If you're simply whining about losing some ganks and even more easy ISK, keep your teeth together, and be thankful that the game gives you such easy pickings. You want "risk vs. reward"? Go venture into wormhole space. You have no station to hide in, no local window, and anyone who IS in there is completely willing and prepared to shoot back should you find them or they find you. The reward is that you can make millions of ISK in very little time. THAT is true "risk versus reward" - anything you're talking about is simply a great deal of risk for those entering Decon, and reward for you. If you're simply looking for fights - go find REAL fights, like The Bastards in Evati, or Snigwaffe, in Tama. There's where you'll find real PVP - we certainly do, when we go there. Having both hunted and been hunted by each of those groups, I have to say that they're some damned good pilots.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.06.27 03:01:00 - [16] i support the entire OP's request after doing a little bashing with them in Decon, i think they have MORE than compensated with such limited space to work with, i mean Decon and Sharuveil and look at all the kills they get, i think they should add like 3 or 4 more systems (low sec) around Sharu/Decon area, to make the area a bit more attractive to visit, and i also support putting at least one station in Sharu, so many belts, but noone wants to rat their because there is no place to put their low sec lootz make it lower sec system to make better rats which makes it more attractive i def agree with i think theyve made a good enough living with such limited resources, you should give them a break CCP!
Atrei Capital	Posted - 2009.06.27 07:50:00 - [17] If Decon is such a bad system, why don't you go somewhere that sucks less? Remarkably, CCP does not assign you a home system which you must never stray from.
Bene Ilooquo Gallente United Girls League of Yona	Posted - 2009.06.27 16:27:00 - [18] Originally by: Ronja why? - because! 1) rotate the station a bit; stupid insta warp undock is VERY unprofitable 2) lower the sec status of the system, it's currently a 0.4!!! C'mon, we work soo hard to depopulate the area, how about a 0.1 ? 3) nice to have request; put a station in Sharuveil; that enourmous systemm is such a waste of space; how about place a +4 agent in there or something.....and/ or...make it a 0.0 system surrounded by high sec !!!! Whilst yer busy changing the sec status of the system, you ought to be dropping the sec status for these aswell - considering the amount of pirating going on: Jita - 0.1 Madmillire - 0.1 ofc this is not going to happen. Personally I'd love to see Jita take a sec hit and furthermore, it's about time they set the UI to allow you to block whole channels (Jita local block anyone?). As for spinning the station it will just mean that ppl will set up a bookmark for an insta undock instead. Sharuveil and perhaps a number systems in Empire with no stations and no nice moons need some love? How about allowing factional warfare corps to build an outpost in it's faction territory - conquerable ofc... and change the game to a Pirate faction sovreignty and allow Factional Warfare for Sansha, Guri, Angel & Serp? . Damn it's so easy to get side lined.
Tsaya Azn Empire	Posted - 2009.06.28 10:47:00 - [19] 1) Rotating the station just to get a few more easy kills is quite pathetic lol, without the hunt there is no satisfaction to be gained! 2) Decon 0.1 is a good idea :)) 3) Putting a station in Sharuveil is another good idea! Friends of Sharuveil can base out of there to fight the evil sausage(nap)fest nextdoor in Decon!
Tsaya Azn Empire	Posted - 2009.06.28 10:49:00 - [20] Originally by: Atrei Capital If Decon is such a bad system, why don't you go somewhere that sucks less? Remarkably, CCP does not assign you a home system which you must never stray from. Looking at their killboard, blowing up 20 T1 ships in return for losing a faction BS/marauder/capital is quite a silly ratio :( I think its a good isk sink for them hehe!



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