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Dern Al'Malik
Minmatar Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2009.07.04 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Dern Al'Malik Maybe because DT is in the middle of a working day in Finland and some of us have jobs. 
I have day job as well, your point is?
Maybe that you usually have to do work during work time and not play computer games?
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Also, to put the thing to rest. I make lots of isk with my defender alts thanks to State standing increase. Why would I exploit because it means I get no standing and thus isk when I "cash in" my alts?
So are you now ready to explain what happened in those systems where I and some others saw your alt as the only one in local and the plexes in the system mysteriously defended themselves even after you left the system leaving the local empty? |

Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.07.04 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 04/07/2009 17:56:56
Originally by: Dern Al'Malik So are you now ready to explain what happened in those systems where I and some others saw your alt as the only one in local and the plexes in the system mysteriously defended themselves even after you left the system leaving the local empty?
Perhaps because plexes are buggered to hell and do wonderful things, like one having 50min left to capture for Caldari after Hussain had sat next to it cloaked or timer keeping running when people warp out of them (happens very often actually).
Today in Matar space I was in med plex, Ardar or some system like that, when pirate cruisers entered. I warped off, waited a bit and returned and timer was running and even Amarr militia member entering the plex wondered what the hell happened as we were well over 50km from timer upon entering.
Few days back, Amarrs were chasing Sasawong around (top matar plexer) in minor plexes and one offensive plex did the same thing. Timer kept running and Amarr plex captured itself for Matar.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Lt Mooncat
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Posted - 2009.07.05 11:05:00 -
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Oh look more rubbish bugs. At least there will be opportunities to exploit these bugs for more than occupancy gain when when lps are introduced. ccp should Fix bugs, exploits and lag before adding lp.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.07.05 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Mooncat Oh look more rubbish bugs. At least there will be opportunities to exploit these bugs for more than occupancy gain when when lps are introduced. ccp should Fix bugs, exploits and lag before adding lp.
One still has to be inside the plex when it's captured for those. Oh, another bug seems to have occurred. No other Caldari pilot seems to do it but when I go to capture Matar plex, npcs dont spawn (initial wave aside) and yes, I do have negative matar standings.
I better come clean about it well in advance so people dont have to come and shout about it here. Not that i'm going to stop from using this special talent to maximum effect to help the cause of the Empress because in a way it helps to pay back for the crimes Matari sympathisers did for Steelcastles over a year ago.
Damar Rocation Brigadier General
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Bardak Arlintal
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Posted - 2009.07.07 06:22:00 -
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I came across a medium plex in Nennamaila with one wt in local. Turned out to be a person in Ishkur.
So I put out an alert about plex and went in to see what I could do. Not much and warped out. I decided to congratulate Gallente on using honest plexing tactics as yesterday certain pilot appeared to be able to trigger multiple offensive plexes to run down by themselves.
Then back-up arrives in form of about 8 frigates and following conversation follows:
X: and you wonder why people use those exploits Bardak Arlintal: You refer to my back-up? x: Yes Bardak Arlintal: Because we do not want to lose systems X: well we want to win systems, so we use them
So, Gallente admit readily using exploits to capture plexes, all the while continuing their useless lies in forums about Caldari being the only ones using exploits.
B.A
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.07 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Bardak Arlintal I came across a medium plex in Nennamaila with one wt in local. Turned out to be a person in Ishkur.
So I put out an alert about plex and went in to see what I could do. Not much and warped out. I decided to congratulate Gallente on using honest plexing tactics as yesterday certain pilot appeared to be able to trigger multiple offensive plexes to run down by themselves.
Then back-up arrives in form of about 8 frigates and following conversation follows:
X: and you wonder why people use those exploits Bardak Arlintal: You refer to my back-up? x: Yes Bardak Arlintal: Because we do not want to lose systems X: well we want to win systems, so we use them
So, Gallente admit readily using exploits to capture plexes, all the while continuing their useless lies in forums about Caldari being the only ones using exploits.
B.A
Well, seeing as you're so happy to throw around these accusations, how about some specifics? Like the player who you're accusings Name so that he can defend himself from this allegation if he so chooses?
As otherwise, this comes off as a "Well I heard from My Brother's, Mate's, Cousin's, Wife's, Hairdresser's Uncle that...."
Also, interesting admission that you need 9 Pilots to deal with a Single T2 Frigate in a Plex where you have NPC Backup on hand to Jam and Missile Spam. ---------------
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.07.07 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre
Originally by: Bardak Arlintal I came across a medium plex in Nennamaila with one wt in local. Turned out to be a person in Ishkur.
So I put out an alert about plex and went in to see what I could do. Not much and warped out. I decided to congratulate Gallente on using honest plexing tactics as yesterday certain pilot appeared to be able to trigger multiple offensive plexes to run down by themselves.
Then back-up arrives in form of about 8 frigates and following conversation follows:
X: and you wonder why people use those exploits Bardak Arlintal: You refer to my back-up? x: Yes Bardak Arlintal: Because we do not want to lose systems X: well we want to win systems, so we use them
So, Gallente admit readily using exploits to capture plexes, all the while continuing their useless lies in forums about Caldari being the only ones using exploits.
B.A
Well, seeing as you're so happy to throw around these accusations, how about some specifics? Like the player who you're accusings Name so that he can defend himself from this allegation if he so chooses?
As otherwise, this comes off as a "Well I heard from My Brother's, Mate's, Cousin's, Wife's, Hairdresser's Uncle that...."
Also, interesting admission that you need 9 Pilots to deal with a Single T2 Frigate in a Plex where you have NPC Backup on hand to Jam and Missile Spam.
Careful what you wish for, it could be your corp exploiting once again...
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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Wallinstar
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Wallinstar on 07/07/2009 11:16:14
Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre
Originally by: Bardak Arlintal I came across a medium plex in Nennamaila with one wt in local. Turned out to be a person in Ishkur.
So I put out an alert about plex and went in to see what I could do. Not much and warped out. I decided to congratulate Gallente on using honest plexing tactics as yesterday certain pilot appeared to be able to trigger multiple offensive plexes to run down by themselves.
Then back-up arrives in form of about 8 frigates and following conversation follows:
X: and you wonder why people use those exploits Bardak Arlintal: You refer to my back-up? x: Yes Bardak Arlintal: Because we do not want to lose systems X: well we want to win systems, so we use them
So, Gallente admit readily using exploits to capture plexes, all the while continuing their useless lies in forums about Caldari being the only ones using exploits.
B.A
Well, seeing as you're so happy to throw around these accusations, how about some specifics? Like the player who you're accusings Name so that he can defend himself from this allegation if he so chooses?
As otherwise, this comes off as a "Well I heard from My Brother's, Mate's, Cousin's, Wife's, Hairdresser's Uncle that...."
Also, interesting admission that you need 9 Pilots to deal with a Single T2 Frigate in a Plex where you have NPC Backup on hand to Jam and Missile Spam.
Bardak speaks the truth as I was one of the pilots in the 8 frig gank mentioned. As for the naming the gallente pilot, that would equate with posting chatlogs at this point and it will casuse this thread to get locked. Is this what you want?
Because if you really want the name of the Gallente pilot this can be easily evemailed to you.
Edit: Also the 8 frig gank I was part of was not plexing, look at the killboards for today.
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Bardak Arlintal
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre Well, seeing as you're so happy to throw around these accusations, how about some specifics? Like the player who you're accusings Name so that he can defend himself from this allegation if he so chooses?
Also, interesting admission that you need 9 Pilots to deal with a Single T2 Frigate in a Plex where you have NPC Backup on hand to Jam and Missile Spam.
As Wallinstar says, posting pilots name would cause thread to be locked down. As for eight frigates, I asked back-up, Logan Xerxes was nearby with his gang and they came around. Should they have left half of their gang behind because of some random space bushido so gallente pilot might have stayed to fight? To his credit, he did return in vagabond and was then killed for no losses. Too bad I missed on km as I warped too far out.
So look at our killboard for Nennamaila. Not much action there so it's easy to find....
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Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Droog 1 on 07/07/2009 11:41:06
Originally by: Unfamed II
Careful what you wish for, it could be your corp exploiting once again...
Haha, that's funny coming from you considering your exploiting little friend in the Cadre, which is the PERVS training Corp, was one of the first people outed as being an exploiter. Pot meet Kettle.
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Unfamed II
Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre
Originally by: Bardak Arlintal I came across a medium plex in Nennamaila with one wt in local. Turned out to be a person in Ishkur.
So I put out an alert about plex and went in to see what I could do. Not much and warped out. I decided to congratulate Gallente on using honest plexing tactics as yesterday certain pilot appeared to be able to trigger multiple offensive plexes to run down by themselves.
Then back-up arrives in form of about 8 frigates and following conversation follows:
X: and you wonder why people use those exploits Bardak Arlintal: You refer to my back-up? x: Yes Bardak Arlintal: Because we do not want to lose systems X: well we want to win systems, so we use them
So, Gallente admit readily using exploits to capture plexes, all the while continuing their useless lies in forums about Caldari being the only ones using exploits.
B.A
Well, seeing as you're so happy to throw around these accusations, how about some specifics? Like the player who you're accusings Name so that he can defend himself from this allegation if he so chooses?
As otherwise, this comes off as a "Well I heard from My Brother's, Mate's, Cousin's, Wife's, Hairdresser's Uncle that...."
Also, interesting admission that you need 9 Pilots to deal with a Single T2 Frigate in a Plex where you have NPC Backup on hand to Jam and Missile Spam.
Careful what you wish for, it could be your corp exploiting once again...
In this particular Case, it would seem that it wasn't a member of SOTF. All of our corp Has been informed however, that using any of the Exploits or Pseudo Exploits for Plexing is not condoned by the Leadership of SOTF. To be honest, we'd rather Take back the Systems within the intended Mechanics rather than hitting the Loopholes as then, we'd actually feel like we'd acomplished something by doing so.
I did take a look at the Kill Mentioned and have to admit that for the Ship the Guy was in when he died, 6 Merlins and 2 Griffins would be about an appropriate response. ---------------
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Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.07.07 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Droog 1 Edited by: Droog 1 on 07/07/2009 11:41:06
Originally by: Unfamed II
Careful what you wish for, it could be your corp exploiting once again...
Haha, that's funny coming from you considering your exploiting little friend in the Cadre, which is the PERVS training Corp, was one of the first people outed as being an exploiter. Pot meet Kettle.
Nameless alts made for trolling don't really matter much, but here goes again. Post some proof before whining. Also, Cadre is not PERVS training corp, it just happened to be that one member in Cadre speaks finnish, and that's enough to qualify for joint ops with us.
Maybe I'll take your posts more seriously when you step out of the alt closet. Until that day. 
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.07.07 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Atraxerxes http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/First_CSM-CCP_Q%26A
Read #5
So one last time for old time sakes.
Unless you start to plex your asses off before the next expansion.
We won FW.
AX
Did you really just post that joining FW to do PVP was doin it wrong? 
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.07.07 18:53:00 -
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It's interesting that many of the Caldari systems are currently contested, yet Gallentes as faction dont have that many victory points. It appears that using the "warp out until timer keeps running" bug is in active use.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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X Gallentius
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.07.07 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion It's interesting that many of the Caldari systems are currently contested, yet Gallentes as faction dont have that many victory points. It appears that using the "warp out until timer keeps running" bug is in active use.
Are you whining about Gallente using the bug, or whining about Gallente whining about your alts using the bug?
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.07.08 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 08/07/2009 04:34:35
Originally by: X Gallentius Are you whining about Gallente using the bug, or whining about Gallente whining about your alts using the bug?
My alt is right there on top plexers list showing that he stays next to the clock to grab points for plexes which he defends with intended means. Also, how nice to launch yet another Ad hominem attack against my person without any proof. But that's what you intended, spread false rumors about exploits so you could downplay the hard fact that Caldari conquered systems fair and square.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.07.08 07:01:00 -
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all the tears they make me sad Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |

Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.07.08 10:04:00 -
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A bit late in the thread to respond to this I know but I just have to....
Originally by: Damar Rocarion
...and hired Star Fraction to dec those who actually knew what they were doing to off-set "numerical advantage"....
*giggle*
Hired Star Fraction?

That cheered me up no end.
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X Gallentius
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.07.08 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: X Gallentius on 08/07/2009 13:32:18
Originally by: Damar Rocarion Also, how nice to launch yet another Ad hominem attack against my person without any proof.
Let's be clear about this. Accusations of cheating are being made against your alts, not you.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.07.08 15:46:00 -
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null Originally by: X Gallentius Let's be clear about this. Accusations of cheating are being made against your alts, not you.
Riigghhttt...
Ms. Ramirez has not been plexing for ages because she achieved necessary standings for serious isk making and now a hauler alt. Mr. Arlintal is pretty solidly in top plexers list. So who is cheating here?
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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X Gallentius
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.07.08 22:11:00 -
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If you have to explain a joke, it wasn't funny....
Now I'm gonna have to whine about your whining about Gallente plexer's whining about your alleged cheating.
This must be part of your Maximum Whineage campaign. You have won another great victory for the Caldari. Congrats.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.07.09 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius If you have to explain a joke, it wasn't funny..
So you accuse me of cheating and i'm supposed to laugh about it? You are indeed strange.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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X Gallentius
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.07.09 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: X Gallentius If you have to explain a joke, it wasn't funny..
So you accuse me of cheating and i'm supposed to laugh about it? You are indeed strange.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
I didn't accuse you of cheating in the original post.
I accused your alts, not you, of cheating in the next. But again, 1) if you have to explain a joke, and 2) the real emphasis has always been the whining portion.
There you go, got me whining about your whining again. You're the master! I salute the General!
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 14/07/2009 17:26:33 Edited by: Furb Killer on 14/07/2009 17:22:39 Hello people, it is me, i am the one who said that to our friend. Luckily he has been selective in copy pasting from his chat.
So lets be clear. 1. There are gallente who have used the cloak 'exploit' (afaik it hasnt been officially classed as an exploit though). I have never done so. I never even implied i used them, that all comes from the imagination from mr stabbed condor plexing.
2. My message was only a reaction on his: "We do it because we want to win". Well that is probably pretty much the same reason as gallente players used it.
Then when we are copying from chat logs anyway:
Quote: Caldari never used exploits
Come on you cant seriously belief that. If you do you need profesional help.
Quote: [ 2009.07.07 06:05:18 ] Bardak Arlintal > How about trying to plex fairly for a change?
I guess you meant your version of fair?
Quote: [ 2009.07.07 06:05:34 ] Bardak Arlintal > Well, you did
So here you say i did, and next you imply on the forums i didnt.
Now lets make it simple. Either you also admit caldari used those bugs, or you are dilusional.
Quote:
As Wallinstar says, posting pilots name would cause thread to be locked down. As for eight frigates, I asked back-up, Logan Xerxes was nearby with his gang and they came around. Should they have left half of their gang behind because of some random space bushido so gallente pilot might have stayed to fight? To his credit, he did return in vagabond and was then killed for no losses. Too bad I missed on km as I warped too far out.
First lets l2count. You was there, your alt was there, and 8 frigates? Why did it show 12 WTs in local for me? For a single ishkur in a plex... Second, 8 frigates is nothing special. I guess you always got such a fleet on standby because everytime we chase one of your stabbed condor plexes away (which is also the reason you are against any changes to plexing mechanics, imagine doing more than sitting on button in a condor), within 5-10 minutes we are far outnumbered.
Third, that vaga action from me was pretty stupid 
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Quote: I did take a look at the Kill Mentioned and have to admit that for the Ship the Guy was in when he died, 6 Merlins and 2 Griffins would be about an appropriate response.
Being in gallente militia is not a reason not to read the post...
You'll notice that I said it would be an appropriate response for the Ship you died in.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that it was more than a little Excessive to deal with a Single T2 Frigate which was what triggered the response in the first place. However, I figured that was obvious enough that I didn't need to embarrass the Caldari Militia's PVP Prowess by bringing that up. ---------------
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:02:00 -
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Ah okay, the response wasnt to my vaga, but against a vaga it is indeed pretty realistic (stupid ecm).
And just to be sure for everyone else i put it again, since usually people prefer jumping to conclusing above reading: I never used exploits/bugs myself. I am just not denying it that others in my militia do it. Would be pretty sad if you do deny it, since it happens in every militia.
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