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Ashera Yune
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.19 18:07:00 -
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There are some pirates in this lowsec that I want, they do not want to fight my fleet. They gatecamp quite a bit but run at the first sight of a competent group.
Such cowardice.
I am looking to get a ship heavily tanked with multiple points and a cyno to hotdrop a fleet on top of.
They'll be in for a surprise.
What is a great bait ship to bait these cowards and hotdrop to kill them? |

Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
267
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Posted - 2012.05.19 18:18:00 -
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proph is a little obvious, so id say a double or tripple plated small gun harby http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |

Death Toll007
Fleet of Doom Psychotic Tendencies.
54
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Posted - 2012.05.19 19:09:00 -
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If they have a uniform fleet comp, or a consistent MO for engagments, make a drake fit with no prop mod, a Scram/Web and a cyno. Fit for specific damage resistance based on their play style with one hardener, an invuln, and two LSEs, with dcu II, and all power diagnostics in the lows, and triple extender rigs, your highs should be heavy missilesx6, cyno, and a medium neut if possible. Drones should be ECM. Set directional scanner for 2,000,000KM on 360 deg.
Go to belt to rat, wait for target, once they land warp to a planet @ zero and hope they follow (remaining in belt = obvious trap). If they follow, scram/web them and begin engaging with HML's. Do not light cyno yet.
Wait for local to spike, if it does not solo the guy, and launch ECM drones. If it does spike, get ready with ECM drones and neut. On arrival of reinforcements, neut any ships reliant on CAP, and put the ECM dones on their biggest DPS ship, or falcon. Once shields are at 75% with fleet in local, or on D-Scan, light cyno.
Added point, you can use traditional cyno as an cyno for Covert ops gang.
-DT |

florin2001ro
Muppet Factory Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.05.20 05:06:00 -
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Augoror Navy Issue this ship is better than a HIC in tank + a lot morons dont know to much about that[they will think is kinda logi, gogoggo and smash them will be fun + is verry cheap 55mil only][btw is a monster in tanks + high rezistance] |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
243
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Posted - 2012.05.20 06:19:00 -
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Dominix with 6 points, if you think they'll turn tail as soon as they cyno-lights. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Julius Foederatus
Hyper-Nova
84
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Posted - 2012.05.20 06:45:00 -
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A regular domi only has 5 mid slots. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2012.05.20 09:15:00 -
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Drake, Prophecy, Maller, Dominix are all "obvious" bait.
How about a recon? |

Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
243
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Posted - 2012.05.20 09:53:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:A regular domi only has 5 mid slots.
whoops. Sa souvraya niende misain ye. |

Fleet Warpsujarento
State Protectorate Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.05.20 12:29:00 -
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Triple plated Hurricane, triple plated Harbinger, double plated Diemost, double plated Zealot, would all be decent choices. Ships that aren't especially renowned for their tank, but which can get well over 100kEHP if you fit them right. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
84
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Posted - 2012.05.20 16:19:00 -
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orca |
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Kriegman
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2012.05.20 16:52:00 -
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The key with any bait ship is to act dumb and have majority of their gang agress on you before lighting cyno. If they are on the gate, even better. Once they are agressed they cannot jump, being lowsec the gate guns just add to the DPS. As previously suggested anything with a massive tank and pubbie looking like a raven is a good bait. I have had good success with battle badgers as well, the tank is not massive but they are cheap and last long enough to have your hotdrop fleet to cyno through.
The pirate gate campers we hotdrop typically die in rather hilarious ways. The local chat goes from "trol lol lol, we ownz u" to "damn blobbers". When baiting and about to be agressed, always call out for most expensive ships to be primaries first. Jam the logies if they are still on grid. |

durka dreckly
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.05.21 08:13:00 -
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Ashera Yune wrote:There are some pirates in this lowsec that I want, they do not want to fight my fleet. They gatecamp quite a bit but run at the first sight of a competent group.
Such cowardice.
I am looking to get a ship heavily tanked with multiple points and a cyno to hotdrop a fleet on top of.
They'll be in for a surprise.
What is a great bait ship to bait these cowards and hotdrop to kill them?
So you got a competent fleet ready to be cyno'd onto these pirates yet not know what a good bait ship would be...... |

Dark Pangolin
Snuff Box
87
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Posted - 2012.05.21 17:56:00 -
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"Plus pirates have this hardon for indy ships, so it almost always grantees aggression."
Confirming that it is indeed 100% guaranteed that pirates will violence your indie ship. A mining barge is eve better! |

Fidelium Mortis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
79
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Posted - 2012.05.22 15:05:00 -
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Something shiny that can fit a hefty buffer and cyno - like a shield + armor buffer rattlesnake (should have nearly 300 ehp). Pop the cyno at about 1/2 shields and they will probably try to stick around to finish the job. ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon |

Sidrun
Life sucks then you die Ltd.
19
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Posted - 2012.05.23 14:33:00 -
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could somebody explain to a noob, what's involved with this hotdrop? Is it just bringing in a carrier or something? Can other ships come in too? |

Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
165
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Posted - 2012.05.23 18:36:00 -
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Ashera Yune wrote:There are some pirates in this lowsec that I want, they do not want to fight my fleet. They gatecamp quite a bit but run at the first sight of a competent group.
Such cowardice.
I am looking to get a ship heavily tanked with multiple points and a cyno to hotdrop a fleet on top of.
They'll be in for a surprise.
What is a great bait ship to bait these cowards and hotdrop to kill them?
Cowardly for not welping an entire gang? Because losing your entire gang intentionally is a smart thing to do posting behind a forum alt isn't cowardly. Right.
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Lord Aliventi
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.05.23 21:28:00 -
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Arazu  |

Kriegman
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2012.05.23 21:35:00 -
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Sidrun wrote:could somebody explain to a noob, what's involved with this hotdrop? Is it just bringing in a carrier or something? Can other ships come in too?
If you are asking, you are doing it wrong. Basically it involves a titan class ship to bridge regular subcaps. Alternatively you can use BLOPs for a cloaky hottdrop. |

Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
257
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Posted - 2012.05.23 22:42:00 -
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Armor drake with 6 long points  |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1577
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Posted - 2012.05.24 03:28:00 -
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Occator Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
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Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
194
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Posted - 2012.05.24 04:45:00 -
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+1 |

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Inglorious Waffles Apocalyptic Legion.
89
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Posted - 2012.05.24 23:21:00 -
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+2 Triple rep Myrms are like what you'd get if you strapped a beehive to Robocop. |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:10:00 -
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No one can resist a Tengu. . |
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