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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.09.22 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: chefron dole what is your problem with us, evertime we have had something to say or something said about us, your always there giving us greif over some so what is your problem bud, were out of your alliance thats what you wanted wasnt it?
oldie from the CA boards makes an aperance very well..
I do not dislike most altz mebers however i do dislike altz corp as a whole from my backwater days and some of the down rigth cowardece your corp showed back then. the whole lets kick seld thing was the last drop. Instead of figthing your empire war you guys wanted to make a deal so you could mine i peace. seld made a 3 strikes your out policy to try and get you guys figthing (no show 3 times you get kicked) knowing pvp ment risking your ship and would take time away from your precious mining you all decided to kick seld even after all he did for your corp, and soon there after you epmire war was over...
let's not forget when you all though that after a patch haveing +/-10 settings to corps meant you got their wars you set all alliance member corps at 8.5 and all hostile corps at -8.5 again so you could mine in peace...
Sitting houers on end camping the station in e02 while most of you mined your asses off in u3k and never saw a single isk while the rest of you got filthy rich.
And the time me seld and a lot of other member put in ****loads of personal isk to corp so it could by a tempest BPO yet never benefitetd in anyway from this as the corp chose to sell the BS it made rather then help replce ships lost by the handfull of people who actually took the time to pvp for CA while the rest of the corp just leached of the ark in u3k
my problem is with how backwater was run by greed and probably altso altz since you showed very little interset in CA other then the ark you sucked out of u3k.
And last but not least let's not forget about that recording of your CEO wich made me question another posters defenition of the word honor since atlz IMO has none.
----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.09.22 18:29:00 -
[62]
Originally by: chefron dole what is your problem with us, evertime we have had something to say or something said about us, your always there giving us greif over some so what is your problem bud, were out of your alliance thats what you wanted wasnt it?
oldie from the CA boards makes an aperance very well..
I do not dislike most altz mebers however i do dislike altz corp as a whole from my backwater days and some of the down rigth cowardece your corp showed back then. the whole lets kick seld thing was the last drop. Instead of figthing your empire war you guys wanted to make a deal so you could mine i peace. seld made a 3 strikes your out policy to try and get you guys figthing (no show 3 times you get kicked) knowing pvp ment risking your ship and would take time away from your precious mining you all decided to kick seld even after all he did for your corp, and soon there after you epmire war was over...
let's not forget when you all though that after a patch haveing +/-10 settings to corps meant you got their wars you set all alliance member corps at 8.5 and all hostile corps at -8.5 again so you could mine in peace...
Sitting houers on end camping the station in e02 while most of you mined your asses off in u3k and never saw a single isk while the rest of you got filthy rich.
And the time me seld and a lot of other member put in ****loads of personal isk to corp so it could by a tempest BPO yet never benefitetd in anyway from this as the corp chose to sell the BS it made rather then help replce ships lost by the handfull of people who actually took the time to pvp for CA while the rest of the corp just leached of the ark in u3k
my problem is with how backwater was run by greed and probably altso altz since you showed very little interset in CA other then the ark you sucked out of u3k.
And last but not least let's not forget about that recording of your CEO wich made me question another posters defenition of the word honor since atlz IMO has none.
----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Pudface
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Posted - 2004.09.22 18:35:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Top 5 most honourable CA corps:
1) Generals of Destruction Syndicate 2) Oberon Incorporated 3) RONA-KIA 4) Cyberdyne Industries 5) The Wolf Brigade
Josh I admire you sense of homuor(sp?) [/sarcasm} 1, SPKN/SPCT 2, Black reign 3, Russian Team 4, OC 5, VOTF thers quite a few others i think deserve to be up ther but meh you asked for 5
P.S. for those that didnt get josh's little joke they are PA corps that he listed not members of the Curse Aliance but Friends with them
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Pudface
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Posted - 2004.09.22 18:35:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Top 5 most honourable CA corps:
1) Generals of Destruction Syndicate 2) Oberon Incorporated 3) RONA-KIA 4) Cyberdyne Industries 5) The Wolf Brigade
Josh I admire you sense of homuor(sp?) [/sarcasm} 1, SPKN/SPCT 2, Black reign 3, Russian Team 4, OC 5, VOTF thers quite a few others i think deserve to be up ther but meh you asked for 5
P.S. for those that didnt get josh's little joke they are PA corps that he listed not members of the Curse Aliance but Friends with them
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.09.22 18:44:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Woetra on 22/09/2004 18:47:53 1) Paladins of the red skull 2) Zoners 3) Aquilae Stellaris 4) British Space Corporation 5) Shinra
I factored in all the dishonourable things each has done so this is more a top 5 least dishonourable 
Factors used were failure to honour; agreements, promises, threats, ceasefires. Also considered excessive use of; smack-talk, log offs, exploits, e-bay, forums, scamming, lying, flaming, blobbing, backstabbing and crying.
And yes before anyone points it out, my own corp would prolly make the bottom 5 in the whole of eve, even says it in the corp description.
*edit, if there was space i would add M-Corp
Sig Thief
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.09.22 18:44:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Woetra on 22/09/2004 18:47:53 1) Paladins of the red skull 2) Zoners 3) Aquilae Stellaris 4) British Space Corporation 5) Shinra
I factored in all the dishonourable things each has done so this is more a top 5 least dishonourable 
Factors used were failure to honour; agreements, promises, threats, ceasefires. Also considered excessive use of; smack-talk, log offs, exploits, e-bay, forums, scamming, lying, flaming, blobbing, backstabbing and crying.
And yes before anyone points it out, my own corp would prolly make the bottom 5 in the whole of eve, even says it in the corp description.
*edit, if there was space i would add M-Corp
Sig Thief
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.22 20:42:00 -
[67]
Yeah dole, i remember that crap. Really the only people that i can remember that i liked from the old Backwater was you, Mchalin, and Seld.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.09.22 20:42:00 -
[68]
Yeah dole, i remember that crap. Really the only people that i can remember that i liked from the old Backwater was you, Mchalin, and Seld.
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chefron
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Posted - 2004.09.22 22:05:00 -
[69]
Edited by: chefron on 22/09/2004 22:08:43
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like most altz mebers however i do dislike altz corp as a whole from my backwater days and some of the down rigth cowardece your corp showed back then. the whole lets kick seld thing was the last drop. Instead of figthing your empire war you guys wanted to make a deal so you could mine i peace. seld made a 3 strikes your out policy to try and get you guys figthing (no show 3 times you get kicked) knowing pvp ment risking your ship and would take time away from your precious mining you all decided to kick seld even after all he did for your corp, and soon there after you epmire war was over...
fyi i was prepperd to actually try that system that seld was creating so not all of us kicked seld out
Quote:
Sitting houers on end camping the station in e02 while most of you mined your asses off in u3k and never saw a single isk while the rest of you got filthy rich.
the last ime i minned in u3k properlay was when the alliance had a big op there, the only times i minned in u3k after that was to get high end mins to replace ships i lost in the gw area defending a oh let me think ca protectorate area.
Quote:
And the time me seld and a lot of other member put in ****loads of personal isk to corp so it could by a tempest BPO yet never benefitetd in anyway from this as the corp chose to sell the BS it made rather then help replce ships lost by the handfull of people who actually took the time to pvp for CA while the rest of the corp just leached of the ark in u3k
btw i have also put in considerbale resourcews to the corp, where as i could have used a tech 2 bpo for my self that i got i gave it to the corp to use and make money for the corp, also a lot of the alliance i was part of and proud to be part of benefitted from this also, so dont believe you were the only people to put considerable amounts of effort into trying to get there corp more money.
Quote:
my problem is with how backwater was run by greed and probably altso altz since you showed very little interset in CA other then the ark you sucked out of u3k.
fyi AlTZ was and always believed in protecting the GW on behalf of the CA and to my knowledge we actually did a fairly good job of it. as apposed to intrest in ca, with a lot of the hlw crew, well it had been a case of when we needed help you the hlw crew would not come over to help even when there was no enemys to fight there, we simply got ignored, which again is another thing the GW was good enough to be a protectorate but not good enough to defend even when a lot of ca used this space to go back and for between empire, in simple terms thats why we refused to go to hlw and help those guys due to they were ignoring us and refusing to come to help us out on the few occasions we did need help due to not having hte man power on to deal with it at the time. ***Any comments made here are of a personel nature unless stated*** |

chefron
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Posted - 2004.09.22 22:05:00 -
[70]
Edited by: chefron on 22/09/2004 22:08:43
Quote:
like most altz mebers however i do dislike altz corp as a whole from my backwater days and some of the down rigth cowardece your corp showed back then. the whole lets kick seld thing was the last drop. Instead of figthing your empire war you guys wanted to make a deal so you could mine i peace. seld made a 3 strikes your out policy to try and get you guys figthing (no show 3 times you get kicked) knowing pvp ment risking your ship and would take time away from your precious mining you all decided to kick seld even after all he did for your corp, and soon there after you epmire war was over...
fyi i was prepperd to actually try that system that seld was creating so not all of us kicked seld out
Quote:
Sitting houers on end camping the station in e02 while most of you mined your asses off in u3k and never saw a single isk while the rest of you got filthy rich.
the last ime i minned in u3k properlay was when the alliance had a big op there, the only times i minned in u3k after that was to get high end mins to replace ships i lost in the gw area defending a oh let me think ca protectorate area.
Quote:
And the time me seld and a lot of other member put in ****loads of personal isk to corp so it could by a tempest BPO yet never benefitetd in anyway from this as the corp chose to sell the BS it made rather then help replce ships lost by the handfull of people who actually took the time to pvp for CA while the rest of the corp just leached of the ark in u3k
btw i have also put in considerbale resourcews to the corp, where as i could have used a tech 2 bpo for my self that i got i gave it to the corp to use and make money for the corp, also a lot of the alliance i was part of and proud to be part of benefitted from this also, so dont believe you were the only people to put considerable amounts of effort into trying to get there corp more money.
Quote:
my problem is with how backwater was run by greed and probably altso altz since you showed very little interset in CA other then the ark you sucked out of u3k.
fyi AlTZ was and always believed in protecting the GW on behalf of the CA and to my knowledge we actually did a fairly good job of it. as apposed to intrest in ca, with a lot of the hlw crew, well it had been a case of when we needed help you the hlw crew would not come over to help even when there was no enemys to fight there, we simply got ignored, which again is another thing the GW was good enough to be a protectorate but not good enough to defend even when a lot of ca used this space to go back and for between empire, in simple terms thats why we refused to go to hlw and help those guys due to they were ignoring us and refusing to come to help us out on the few occasions we did need help due to not having hte man power on to deal with it at the time. ***Any comments made here are of a personel nature unless stated*** |

Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.09.22 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: chefron Edited by: chefron on 22/09/2004 22:08:43
Quote:
like most altz mebers however i do dislike altz corp as a whole from my backwater days and some of the down rigth cowardece your corp showed back then. the whole lets kick seld thing was the last drop. Instead of figthing your empire war you guys wanted to make a deal so you could mine i peace. seld made a 3 strikes your out policy to try and get you guys figthing (no show 3 times you get kicked) knowing pvp ment risking your ship and would take time away from your precious mining you all decided to kick seld even after all he did for your corp, and soon there after you epmire war was over...
fyi i was prepperd to actually try that system that seld was creating so not all of us kicked seld out
Quote:
Sitting houers on end camping the station in e02 while most of you mined your asses off in u3k and never saw a single isk while the rest of you got filthy rich.
the last ime i minned in u3k properlay was when the alliance had a big op there, the only times i minned in u3k after that was to get high end mins to replace ships i lost in the gw area defending a oh let me think ca protectorate area.
Quote:
And the time me seld and a lot of other member put in ****loads of personal isk to corp so it could by a tempest BPO yet never benefitetd in anyway from this as the corp chose to sell the BS it made rather then help replce ships lost by the handfull of people who actually took the time to pvp for CA while the rest of the corp just leached of the ark in u3k
btw i have also put in considerbale resourcews to the corp, where as i could have used a tech 2 bpo for my self that i got i gave it to the corp to use and make money for the corp, also a lot of the alliance i was part of and proud to be part of benefitted from this also, so dont believe you were the only people to put considerable amounts of effort into trying to get there corp more money.
Quote:
my problem is with how backwater was run by greed and probably altso altz since you showed very little interset in CA other then the ark you sucked out of u3k.
fyi AlTZ was and always believed in protecting the GW on behalf of the CA and to my knowledge we actually did a fairly good job of it. as apposed to intrest in ca, with a lot of the hlw crew, well it had been a case of when we needed help you the hlw crew would not come over to help even when there was no enemys to fight there, we simply got ignored, which again is another thing the GW was good enough to be a protectorate but not good enough to defend even when a lot of ca used this space to go back and for between empire, in simple terms thats why we refused to go to hlw and help those guys due to they were ignoring us and refusing to come to help us out on the few occasions we did need help due to not having hte man power on to deal with it at the time.
Can't be botherd to sort all those quotes out so here's the shor version: 1: you had no part in kicking seld, hmm where did i say you had? I sayd i dont dislike most altz/BW members but i dislike you as a corp and the CORP did kick seld for carebearish resons
2: you havent mined in how long... I don't really care i was talking about the backwater days where me and a cupple others would sit and camp the gates and station keeping the miners safe we never saw a single isk for that and a lot of your members got filthy rich. what you did since i left i don't really care about.
3. If you put considreble resources to the corp and got some thing out of it? good for you. neither seld or me did. if we lost a ship even defending one of your mining ops it would have been our problem.
4. altz has been defending e02 for personal resons it think that comes out very clearly in the recording of your ceo. If i was to take a wild guess of what those resons would be I'd say u3k... ark.
----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.09.22 22:47:00 -
[72]
Originally by: chefron Edited by: chefron on 22/09/2004 22:08:43
Quote:
like most altz mebers however i do dislike altz corp as a whole from my backwater days and some of the down rigth cowardece your corp showed back then. the whole lets kick seld thing was the last drop. Instead of figthing your empire war you guys wanted to make a deal so you could mine i peace. seld made a 3 strikes your out policy to try and get you guys figthing (no show 3 times you get kicked) knowing pvp ment risking your ship and would take time away from your precious mining you all decided to kick seld even after all he did for your corp, and soon there after you epmire war was over...
fyi i was prepperd to actually try that system that seld was creating so not all of us kicked seld out
Quote:
Sitting houers on end camping the station in e02 while most of you mined your asses off in u3k and never saw a single isk while the rest of you got filthy rich.
the last ime i minned in u3k properlay was when the alliance had a big op there, the only times i minned in u3k after that was to get high end mins to replace ships i lost in the gw area defending a oh let me think ca protectorate area.
Quote:
And the time me seld and a lot of other member put in ****loads of personal isk to corp so it could by a tempest BPO yet never benefitetd in anyway from this as the corp chose to sell the BS it made rather then help replce ships lost by the handfull of people who actually took the time to pvp for CA while the rest of the corp just leached of the ark in u3k
btw i have also put in considerbale resourcews to the corp, where as i could have used a tech 2 bpo for my self that i got i gave it to the corp to use and make money for the corp, also a lot of the alliance i was part of and proud to be part of benefitted from this also, so dont believe you were the only people to put considerable amounts of effort into trying to get there corp more money.
Quote:
my problem is with how backwater was run by greed and probably altso altz since you showed very little interset in CA other then the ark you sucked out of u3k.
fyi AlTZ was and always believed in protecting the GW on behalf of the CA and to my knowledge we actually did a fairly good job of it. as apposed to intrest in ca, with a lot of the hlw crew, well it had been a case of when we needed help you the hlw crew would not come over to help even when there was no enemys to fight there, we simply got ignored, which again is another thing the GW was good enough to be a protectorate but not good enough to defend even when a lot of ca used this space to go back and for between empire, in simple terms thats why we refused to go to hlw and help those guys due to they were ignoring us and refusing to come to help us out on the few occasions we did need help due to not having hte man power on to deal with it at the time.
Can't be botherd to sort all those quotes out so here's the shor version: 1: you had no part in kicking seld, hmm where did i say you had? I sayd i dont dislike most altz/BW members but i dislike you as a corp and the CORP did kick seld for carebearish resons
2: you havent mined in how long... I don't really care i was talking about the backwater days where me and a cupple others would sit and camp the gates and station keeping the miners safe we never saw a single isk for that and a lot of your members got filthy rich. what you did since i left i don't really care about.
3. If you put considreble resources to the corp and got some thing out of it? good for you. neither seld or me did. if we lost a ship even defending one of your mining ops it would have been our problem.
4. altz has been defending e02 for personal resons it think that comes out very clearly in the recording of your ceo. If i was to take a wild guess of what those resons would be I'd say u3k... ark.
----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.22 22:55:00 -
[73]
RUS, as a corp, for staying and fighting when most others would advance backwards. RUS, for well-mannered people like Onego, who are always pleasant in local, win or loose.
P.S I still don't like Zloba, and i think Cortak is a tard.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.09.22 22:55:00 -
[74]
RUS, as a corp, for staying and fighting when most others would advance backwards. RUS, for well-mannered people like Onego, who are always pleasant in local, win or loose.
P.S I still don't like Zloba, and i think Cortak is a tard.
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chefron
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Posted - 2004.09.22 23:00:00 -
[75]
well are we gonna give this a rest now as seeing as you do not know all the facts about what was going on and becuase of peoples paranoia because they wnated to make themelsves look good instead of actually trying to find out what is going on istead of "look at me im a bigboy" im not prepared to go through this with you or anyone else here on the forums, i know i have honour as i have a free will and am not led like a lamb to the slaughter like some people in this alliance. so as far as im concered this matter is closed so plesae do not go round talking about other peoples honour when you dont know the facts (and no im not gonna give you the facts becuase i cant be arsed to talk to you anymore) ***Any comments made here are of a personel nature unless stated*** |

chefron
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Posted - 2004.09.22 23:00:00 -
[76]
well are we gonna give this a rest now as seeing as you do not know all the facts about what was going on and becuase of peoples paranoia because they wnated to make themelsves look good instead of actually trying to find out what is going on istead of "look at me im a bigboy" im not prepared to go through this with you or anyone else here on the forums, i know i have honour as i have a free will and am not led like a lamb to the slaughter like some people in this alliance. so as far as im concered this matter is closed so plesae do not go round talking about other peoples honour when you dont know the facts (and no im not gonna give you the facts becuase i cant be arsed to talk to you anymore) ***Any comments made here are of a personel nature unless stated*** |

chefron
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Posted - 2004.09.22 23:11:00 -
[77]
just to add a quick comment, there is still a lot of CA members i respect also a lot of corps i repect also. and to be honest guys good luck in your future endevours ***Any comments made here are of a personel nature unless stated*** |

chefron
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Posted - 2004.09.22 23:11:00 -
[78]
just to add a quick comment, there is still a lot of CA members i respect also a lot of corps i repect also. and to be honest guys good luck in your future endevours ***Any comments made here are of a personel nature unless stated*** |

Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2004.09.22 23:28:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Righteous Fury on 22/09/2004 23:29:27 From my experiences:
1. Gatekeepers 2. Spectre Syndicate 3. RUS 4. M. Corp 5. VOTF
Shinra and Corp 1 don't make my list from the rampant pirating. Shinra has a chance there though, because they don't smack as much as Corp 1 does.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2004.09.22 23:28:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Righteous Fury on 22/09/2004 23:29:27 From my experiences:
1. Gatekeepers 2. Spectre Syndicate 3. RUS 4. M. Corp 5. VOTF
Shinra and Corp 1 don't make my list from the rampant pirating. Shinra has a chance there though, because they don't smack as much as Corp 1 does.
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crice
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Posted - 2004.09.22 23:29:00 -
[81]
Good luck to you guys, we aren't all ebil. 
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crice
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Posted - 2004.09.22 23:29:00 -
[82]
Good luck to you guys, we aren't all ebil. 
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.09.23 00:48:00 -
[83]
1. Shinra 2. RUS 3. Crice
4 and 5 do not exist ________________________________________________________
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Meridius
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Posted - 2004.09.23 00:48:00 -
[84]
1. Shinra 2. RUS 3. Crice
4 and 5 do not exist ________________________________________________________
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Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.09.23 04:30:00 -
[85]
i love you all =) no favorites
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Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.09.23 04:30:00 -
[86]
i love you all =) no favorites
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2004.09.23 10:09:00 -
[87]
All flashing yellow to me..
Except Spartan Industrial Manufacturing who've not had a mention yet. They are flashing orange :)
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2004.09.23 10:09:00 -
[88]
All flashing yellow to me..
Except Spartan Industrial Manufacturing who've not had a mention yet. They are flashing orange :)
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.23 14:36:00 -
[89]
Edited by: olyyy on 23/09/2004 14:39:30 Errr lemme think:
1. EGCO 2. The tarsis Shriners 3. alcatraz 4. ngru 5. ATUK
did i forgot anybody ? 
edit: why does somebody need an alt to post such question ?? I mean wtf...
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

olyyy
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Posted - 2004.09.23 14:36:00 -
[90]
Edited by: olyyy on 23/09/2004 14:39:30 Errr lemme think:
1. EGCO 2. The tarsis Shriners 3. alcatraz 4. ngru 5. ATUK
did i forgot anybody ? 
edit: why does somebody need an alt to post such question ?? I mean wtf...
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
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