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Irulan S'Dijana Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.07.03 04:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Irulan S''Dijana on 03/07/2009 04:11:46 Linkage A fairly decent writeup overall. Thankfully no huggy-lovey-lets-be-nice overtones. edit: spelling - Nobody gets rich in this business. You simply obtain new levels of relative poverty.
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.07.03 05:20:00 - [2] Such a shame that Ricdic had to go out like that. He did a lot for the game and the Market Discussion Forum. No matter the motivation this just sucks. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! =v=
Fi Vantage Minmatar Kha'rific-Mintor Outriders.	Posted - 2009.07.03 06:38:00 - [3] Edited by: Fi Vantage on 03/07/2009 06:38:30 Very good article. Ricdic's getting some good PR though, which he probably deserves.
Dong Ninja	Posted - 2009.07.03 06:39:00 - [4] Quote: online game similar to World of Warcraft and Second Life. I am insulted that I'm compared to either one of those games. Originally by: Xen Gin Indeed, upgrading an MS OS is like taking a **** into a cake mixture, then complaining that it doesn't taste good when it's all done.
Anyura	Posted - 2009.07.03 09:58:00 - [5] Did they compare Eve to Second Life?!
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.03 10:34:00 - [6] Originally by: Anyura Did they compare Eve to Second Life?! from market and economic point of view SL > EVE EvE FTW
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2009.07.03 10:44:00 - [7] Originally by: ceaon Originally by: Anyura Did they compare Eve to Second Life?! from market and economic point of view SL > EVE I'm just glad they didnt compare EVE to Entropia Universe. -
Xen Gin Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.03 11:36:00 - [8] Originally by: ceaon Originally by: Anyura Did they compare Eve to Second Life?! from market and economic point of view SL > EVE Yeah, we really need our real world advertising and other junk in the game! Hey put down the bottle of quafe and try this cold, sparkling COKA COLA!
shwarzkauph bullets with butterfly wings	Posted - 2009.07.03 18:19:00 - [9] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Such a shame that Ricdic had to go out like that. He did a lot for the game and the Market Discussion Forum. No matter the motivation this just sucks. Slade Shows what kind of person he is IRL. He stole from people he considers friends, his fellow Ebankers. Sadly this will happen again and again because eve lets people do whatever they want. If people are liars and cheats IRL, they will be liars and cheats in game. The world is full of liars and cheats. The only reason this was caught is because A: E bank was higher profile that most B: This character was higher profile than most. Imagine how many anonymous nobody's steal a billion here, a billion there and sell it. Happens all the time. CCP isnt going to pay people to specifically watch for this, tehy'd need to to control it. sadly a game mechanic tehy encourage will and up biting them in the a** one day. u lose
Darkon Gatland Amarr Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.03 19:55:00 - [10] This article is third most read on bbc news website. However their headline is: "Billions stolen in online theft." A little misleading...
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.07.03 20:00:00 - [11] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 03/07/2009 20:01:43 Originally by: shwarzkauph Shows what kind of person he is IRL. He stole from people he considers friends, his fellow Ebankers. Sadly this will happen again and again because eve lets people do whatever they want. If people are liars and cheats IRL, they will be liars and cheats in game. The world is full of liars and cheats. The only reason this was caught is because A: E bank was higher profile that most B: This character was higher profile than most. Imagine how many anonymous nobody's steal a billion here, a billion there and sell it. Happens all the time. CCP isnt going to pay people to specifically watch for this, tehy'd need to to control it. sadly a game mechanic tehy encourage will and up biting them in the a one day. To be honest there was no game mechanic that was taken advantage of. He just took advantage of people that trusted him with their money. No mechanic failed their. Trust was breached and that is about it. We do not truly know what happened in real life, not that that would justify what happened, but the old saying, "Walk a mile in my shoes", comes to mind when people start bashing character. Not that anything should justify what happened, but for all we know he was planning on returning the everything after the real world smoothed over. He just happened to get busted before he could cover the tracks. Again, not that any of the above justifies the actions; I just find the line between in game and real life a little blury. As long as I remeber, only been in game for almost 2 years, one of the mantras of EVE is to not trust anyone. For the longest time there were people in MD proclaiming it was only a matter of time before one of the E-Bank elite would take the money and run. Yes, it sucks that it acutally happened, it sucks that someone that did as much for the game as Ricdic did, is the one that turned around and bit the hand that fed it. It also sucks that after all that Ricdic did for the game, the game may be the reason that he was in financial trouble to begin with. So this just sucks plain and simple and this just needs to serve as a reminder to players of EVE that even someone you trust can turn around and stab you in the back. May this never happen with Chribba! Slade Originally by:** Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! =v=
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.03 20:14:00 - [12] for all we know it could be chribbas alt ... JOKING chribba ...just joking destroy everything you touch
shwarzkauph bullets with butterfly wings	Posted - 2009.07.03 20:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 03/07/2009 20:01:43 Originally by: shwarzkauph Shows what kind of person he is IRL. He stole from people he considers friends, his fellow Ebankers. Sadly this will happen again and again because eve lets people do whatever they want. If people are liars and cheats IRL, they will be liars and cheats in game. The world is full of liars and cheats. The only reason this was caught is because A: E bank was higher profile that most B: This character was higher profile than most. Imagine how many anonymous nobody's steal a billion here, a billion there and sell it. Happens all the time. CCP isnt going to pay people to specifically watch for this, tehy'd need to to control it. sadly a game mechanic tehy encourage will and up biting them in the a** one day. To be honest there was no game mechanic that was taken advantage of. He just took advantage of people that trusted him with their money. No mechanic failed their. Trust was breached and that is about it. We do not truly know what happened in real life, not that that would justify what happened, but the old saying, "Walk a mile in my shoes", comes to mind when people start bashing character. Not that anything should justify what happened, but for all we know he was planning on returning the everything after the real world smoothed over. He just happened to get busted before he could cover the tracks. Again, not that any of the above justifies the actions; I just find the line between in game and real life a little blury. As long as I remeber, only been in game for almost 2 years, one of the mantras of EVE is to not trust anyone. For the longest time there were people in MD proclaiming it was only a matter of time before one of the E-Bank elite would take the money and run. Yes, it sucks that it acutally happened, it sucks that someone that did as much for the game as Ricdic did, is the one that turned around and bit the hand that fed it. It also sucks that after all that Ricdic did for the game, the game may be the reason that he was in financial trouble to begin with. So this just sucks plain and simple and this just needs to serve as a reminder to players of EVE that even someone you trust can turn around and stab you in the back. May this never happen with Chribba! Slade So basically what you're saying is that in a game like EVE that gives players the freedoms to have awesome things such as E-Bank and in the future other stuff we haven't even conceived of yet, cannot happen because people cannot trust eachother? Thats sad. Whats more sad is that the thieves have freedom to steal, same as they do IRL, but no consequnces. IRL if someone steals from me, that will be the last thing they do. EVER. Ingame someone steals from you and most of the time theyre treated liek heroes and brag about it on the forums, NO consequences. Sad game mechanic. u lose
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.07.03 20:37:00 - [14] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 03/07/2009 20:38:55 Originally by: shwarzkauph So basically what you're saying is that in a game like EVE that gives players the freedoms to have awesome things such as E-Bank and in the future other stuff we haven't even conceived of yet, cannot happen because people cannot trust eachother? Thats sad. Whats more sad is that the thieves have freedom to steal, same as they do IRL, but no consequnces. IRL if someone steals from me, that will be the last thing they do. EVER. Ingame someone steals from you and most of the time theyre treated liek heroes and brag about it on the forums, NO consequences. Sad game mechanic. No what I was saying is that you need to weigh the risk in game just as you would in real life. CCP is a small company, there is no way they could afford to police this themselves. So they leave it to the players. I believe anything server side implemented to stop scamming would put clamps on the sandbox aspect of the game. Play at your own risk. I mean we are playing a game that most of the aspects of the game are PVP oriented, meaning that a loss is almost guaranteed around every corner. As for your, "if someone steals from me in RL it will be the last thing they do" comment, that is awfully bold. What would you porpose you would have done if you had lost you life savings in the ENRON scandal or if you had invested in Bernie Madoffs' company? About all that could happen is CCP reports this to the authorities and see if they do anything with it. EVE is a game, a hard core game, and I will paraphrase what the leader of a pirate corp said a few weeks back, treat the game like chess, go for throat if you want to win. Some players do that to the fullest. Yes this sucks, but that is what makes this game what it is, an entity in of itself. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! =v=
shwarzkauph bullets with butterfly wings	Posted - 2009.07.03 20:46:00 - [15] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: shwarzkauph So basically what you're saying is that in a game like EVE that gives players the freedoms to have awesome things such as E-Bank and in the future other stuff we haven't even conceived of yet, cannot happen because people cannot trust eachother? Thats sad. Whats more sad is that the thieves have freedom to steal, same as they do IRL, but no consequnces. IRL if someone steals from me, that will be the last thing they do. EVER. Ingame someone steals from you and most of the time theyre treated liek heroes and brag about it on the forums, NO consequences. Sad game mechanic. No what I was saying is that you need to weigh the risk in game just as you would in real life. CCP is a small company, there is no way they could afford to police this themselves. So they leave it to the players. I believe anything server side implemented to stop scamming would put clamps on the sandbox aspect of the game. Play at your own risk. I mean we are playing a game that most of the aspects of the game are PVP oriented, meaning that a loss is almost guaranteed around every corner. As for your, "if someone steals from me in RL it will be the last thing they do" comment, that is awfully bold. What would you porpose you would have done if you had lost you life savings in the ENRON scandal or if you had invested in Bernie Madoffs' company? About all that could happen is CCP reports this to the authorities and see if they do anything with it. EVE is a game, a hard core game, and I will paraphrase what the leader of a pirate corp said a few weeks back, treat the game like chess, go for throat if you want to win. Some players do that to the fullest. Yes is sucks but that is what makes this game what it is, an entity in of itself. Slade first off I wouldnt invest all my "eggs" in one basket, therefore my losses with Enron would have been minimal. BTW, im an active trader, not one of those who invests and hope it works out 20 years down the road. I CONTROL my investments. Lets look at the GHSC, they obviously use alts to infilrtate and manipulate trust. They're thieves but the games give them "super thieve" powers by letting them have alternate identities. After the theft the alt is washed away and then what. No consquences. They are forum heroes. ITS HAR TOO EASY to steal otehrs work in eve. One day CCP will come to regret that, imo. CCP is a small company, there is no way they could afford to police this themselves. SO basically CCP allows this game mechanic with little ways of countering it, except dont trust anyone. Pathetic game mechanic. u lose
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.07.03 20:52:00 - [16] Originally by: shwarzkauph first off I wouldnt invest all my "eggs" in one basket, therefore my losses with Enron would have been minimal. BTW, im an active trader, not one of those who invests and hope it works out 20 years down the road. I CONTROL my investments. Lets look at the GHSC, they obviously use alts to infilrtate and manipulate trust. They're thieves but the games give them "super thieve" powers by letting them have alternate identities. After the theft the alt is washed away and then what. No consquences. They are forum heroes. ITS HAR TOO EASY to steal otehrs work in eve. One day CCP will come to regret that, imo. CCP is a small company, there is no way they could afford to police this themselves. SO basically CCP allows this game mechanic with little ways of countering it, except dont trust anyone. Pathetic game mechanic. So what do you propose? I would be down with taking accounts to just one pilot. Outside of that what do you propose? I personally like this aspect of the game. Yes you could get run over at some time but that is part of the thrill of the game. Different strokes differnt folks I guess. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! =v=
shwarzkauph bullets with butterfly wings	Posted - 2009.07.03 21:04:00 - [17] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: shwarzkauph first off I wouldnt invest all my "eggs" in one basket, therefore my losses with Enron would have been minimal. BTW, im an active trader, not one of those who invests and hope it works out 20 years down the road. I CONTROL my investments. Lets look at the GHSC, they obviously use alts to infilrtate and manipulate trust. They're thieves but the games give them "super thieve" powers by letting them have alternate identities. After the theft the alt is washed away and then what. No consquences. They are forum heroes. ITS HAR TOO EASY to steal otehrs work in eve. One day CCP will come to regret that, imo. CCP is a small company, there is no way they could afford to police this themselves. SO basically CCP allows this game mechanic with little ways of countering it, except dont trust anyone. Pathetic game mechanic. So what do you propose? I would be down with taking accounts to just one pilot. Outside of that what do you propose? I personally like this aspect of the game. Yes you could get run over at some time but that is part of the thrill of the game. Different strokes differnt folks I guess. Slade I dont know what the solution is tbh. Im not a developer. Ther are people who getpaid pretty well and get to work for a cool company that should be figuring this out... I honestly sort of like the "danger" too but I believe that if your going to do something unacceptable to most, there should be true consequences or a chance of getting "caught" and facing those consequences. As it is now, if your a manipulative bastard then there are no conequences, they basically have free reign to do as they please. u lose
thion li g guild Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.07.04 17:44:00 - [18] I love seeing an Avatar Picture on the front page center article in the financial section of my local newspaper. I wonder what it would take to make front page or anywhere in the first section...probably have to steal all monies in EvE? PS. why deposit your money in a virtual bank?
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.04 18:35:00 - [19] Originally by: shwarzkauph So basically what you're saying is that in a game like EVE that gives players the freedoms to have awesome things such as E-Bank and in the future other stuff we haven't even conceived of yet, cannot happen because people cannot trust eachother? Thats sad. didn't you get the memo? being paranoid nowadays is a quality, not a defect. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.

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