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ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.05 22:20:00 - [1] TPB got a 2.0 version lool http://openbittorrent.com/ tracker.thepiratebay.org. 25444 IN A 192.121.86.5 tracker.thepiratebay.org. 25444 IN A 192.121.86.8 tracker.thepiratebay.org. 25444 IN A 192.121.86.7 tracker.thepiratebay.org. 25444 IN A 192.121.86.4 tracker.openbittorrent.com. 2909 IN A 192.121.86.2 tracker.openbittorrent.com. 2909 IN A 192.121.86.5 tracker.openbittorrent.com. 2909 IN A 192.121.86.8 tracker.openbittorrent.com. 2909 IN A 192.121.86.4 copy and paste ? EvE FTW
Mother Clanger Viziam	Posted - 2009.07.05 22:54:00 - [2] And here we have the entire reason why all anti-piracy measures in the whole of history, have and will continue to be a complete waste of time, effort and money. - MC
Kata Dakini Flatiron Academy	Posted - 2009.07.05 23:07:00 - [3] Wasting time, effort, and money is what gives people jobs. Why do you think there are entities out there that combat piracy measure? They exist because if they didn't, the people that work there wouldn't work there anymore. For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized.
Mother Clanger Viziam	Posted - 2009.07.05 23:16:00 - [4] Edited by: Mother Clanger on 05/07/2009 23:25:01 Originally by: Kata Dakini Wasting time, effort, and money is what gives people jobs. Why do you think there are entities out there that combat piracy measure? They exist because if they didn't, the people that work there wouldn't work there anymore. Return on Investment. If they spent the same amount of time, effort and money on anti-piracy as they did on working out new ways to get content into the hands of people in such a way that they are still earning revenue and making a profit, these companies would actually earn more money {edit}and employ more people{/edit}, as opposed to giving away lots of it to a small number of lawyers. IMO, it should be the entertainment industry driving technological innovation, not pirates. - MC
Great Artista Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.07.05 23:33:00 - [5] Glorious. ____ Rockets need a boost. CCP status: [_] Told. [x] Not told. ◕◡◕
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2009.07.06 03:24:00 - [6] lol, TPB ____________________ CCP: Catering to the cowards of a cold, harsh universe since November, 2006.
Kata Dakini Flatiron Academy	Posted - 2009.07.06 08:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Mother Clanger Edited by: Mother Clanger on 05/07/2009 23:25:01 Return on Investment. If they spent the same amount of time, effort and money on anti-piracy as they did on working out new ways to get content into the hands of people in such a way that they are still earning revenue and making a profit, these companies would actually earn more money {edit}and employ more people{/edit}, as opposed to giving away lots of it to a small number of lawyers. IMO, it should be the entertainment industry driving technological innovation, not pirates. - MC Well aren't you just the snappy little eve forumer. wooooooooosh... For more enjoyment and greater efficiency, consumption is being standardized.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.06 09:36:00 - [8] i took a tpb torrent edited whit http://www.torrenteditor.com/index.php i put the OBT tracker and is working -lol- EvE FTW
Mother Clanger Viziam	Posted - 2009.07.06 09:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Kata Dakini Well aren't you just the snappy little eve forumer. wooooooooosh... Sorry if it was meant to be sarcastic in tone, it didn't read that way. - MC
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.07.06 10:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Mother Clanger If they spent the same amount of time, effort and money on anti-piracy as they did on working out new ways to get content into the hands of people in such a way that they are still earning revenue and making a profit, these companies would actually earn more money. You mean that the other way round, right -------------

KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.07.06 10:49:00 - [11] Interesting, but not revolutionary. TPB used the argument "We don't host the content!" and it didn't stop them getting sued, even in a country where they actually aren't breaking the law (perhaps the most ironic part). What I find odd is the almost hypocritical nature of the arguments, being leveled at this one but not at that. Example: - I can use TPB to search for torrents which lead to illegal content. They get sued. - I can use Google to search for torrents which lead to illegal content. They don't get sued. - I can use Google to search for illegal content hosted on rapidshare. Neither are sued. Yes I realise Google don't host torrents, but that doesn't matter because torrents of themselves aren't illegal. And why, if Torrenting/P2P/Usenet etc are wrong because they could be used for something illegal, why not outlaw guns, Email, cutlery and crowbars? Why not fit every vehicle with a speed limiter preventing them exceeding the nation's max limit? Why not sue Microsoft for giving me the ability to rip an audio CD in WMP, potentially breaking the law? The fact is they all have legitimate uses...well not the guns perhaps. Anyway, the arguments will go on and on and on, like Ariston. -------------
Mother Clanger Viziam	Posted - 2009.07.06 11:02:00 - [12] Originally by: KingsGambit You mean that the other way round, right Whoops Thanks - MC
Mother Clanger Viziam	Posted - 2009.07.06 11:09:00 - [13] I think a lot of it comes down to intent. Piratebay was a good target because the intent was clear. Google may link to pirated material but that's not their probable intent and I'm sure they would work to remove said links if flagged up. This is a bit more ambiguous which might stand it in better stead should it come to the courts. We'll have to see how it turns out. - MC
zaxin diadrin Minmatar Esquires Of Questionable Intention	Posted - 2009.07.06 12:03:00 - [14] Aren't TPB in the process of going "legit"? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8128551.stm
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.07.06 12:21:00 - [15] Originally by: Mother Clanger I think a lot of it comes down to intent. Piratebay was a good target because the intent was clear. Google may link to pirated material but that's not their probable intent and I'm sure they would work to remove said links if flagged up. This is a bit more ambiguous which might stand it in better stead should it come to the courts. We'll have to see how it turns out. - MC I know, you are right here, I'm just being more than a little pedantic. Waving pirate flags , rubbing piracy in people's faces and writing the letters they did didn't help their cause any. It's the different rules for different situations that I don't get. -------------
Xelios Minmatar Broski Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.07.06 12:45:00 - [16] Originally by: zaxin diadrin Aren't TPB in the process of going "legit"? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8128551.stm I think they're in the process of selling their sinking ship and using that money to create new P2P tools.
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.06 22:04:00 - [17] Originally by: Xelios Originally by: zaxin diadrin Aren't TPB in the process of going "legit"? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8128551.stm I think they're in the process of selling their sinking ship and using that money to create new P2P tools. some like that :) but TPB say that the money go to a fundation so they got 0 money for fines EvE FTW
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Novus Ordo Mundi	Posted - 2009.07.06 22:57:00 - [18] TPB is dead in honesty as this company buying out the domain name. They remove the illegal contents and there is where it goes down hill. It was great whole it lasted. Trinity Corporate Services
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.07.07 02:47:00 - [19] Edited by: Abrazzar on 07/07/2009 02:47:54 Originally by: northwesten TPB is dead in honesty as this company buying out the domain name. They remove the illegal contents and there is where it goes down hill. It was great whole it lasted. Not that this will change anything. As long as there is demand, there will be supply. One would think they had learned something from the futile disaster prohibition had turned out. -------- Ideas for: Mining
ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.28 08:37:00 - [20] the back is happening ppl, all torrents from TPB have also openbittorrent.com tracker included tpb crew delivers Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist EvE FTW

CAPSLOCKBROKE Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:50:00 - [21] What anti-pirate people fail to realize, is that the people who crack games, crack movies, and in general know how to get around copyright technology, are go figure, VERY good at getting around the rules. If a person can break every sort of anti-piracy code, find a way to distribute anything they want to anyone they want, and not care about the illegality of any of it, why on earth does a group of anti-piracy folk think that shutting down one website is going to do ANYTHING? Its like trying to stop Drug Dealers by increasing the penalty for being caught. The only way you stop Drug Dealers from existing is legalizing whatever they are selling. The only way you stop pirating from happening is by making everything free. Neither is going to happen, and even if you make one thing free or one drug legal, they will just move onto another product or drug to pirate/sell.


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