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Nostradamu5	Posted - 2004.09.24 02:12:00 - [1] Edited by: Nostradamu5 on 24/09/2004 02:16:05 Edited by: Nostradamu5 on 24/09/2004 02:15:17 1. Maybe they're still toasting the night they broke 11k and the servers didn't go offline. 2. or maybe they're all busy downloading movies and really stupid mp3's. 3. or they could be playing a LAN game like someone dug up Tradewars 2002, only asci but it had ferrengi and was stable, and if things started to go against you the sysop could always bigbang the universe for the greater good. 4. Or they could be downloading p 0 r n! Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug! Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
Nostradamu5	Posted - 2004.09.24 02:12:00 - [2] Edited by: Nostradamu5 on 24/09/2004 02:16:05 Edited by: Nostradamu5 on 24/09/2004 02:15:17 1. Maybe they're still toasting the night they broke 11k and the servers didn't go offline. 2. or maybe they're all busy downloading movies and really stupid mp3's. 3. or they could be playing a LAN game like someone dug up Tradewars 2002, only asci but it had ferrengi and was stable, and if things started to go against you the sysop could always bigbang the universe for the greater good. 4. Or they could be downloading p 0 r n! Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug! Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
TheMiner	Posted - 2004.09.24 06:48:00 - [3] Or they could be upgrading the fault tolerance?
TheMiner	Posted - 2004.09.24 06:48:00 - [4] Or they could be upgrading the fault tolerance?
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.09.24 06:50:00 - [5] I'm sure some of our resident geeks will tell us pilgrims what fault tolerance actually is........ LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.09.24 06:50:00 - [6] I'm sure some of our resident geeks will tell us pilgrims what fault tolerance actually is........ LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Monty Burns	Posted - 2004.09.24 07:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Joshua Calvert I'm sure some of our resident geeks will tell us pilgrims what fault tolerance actually is........ Fault tolerence is exactly what it says, you get a fault or problem and it can tolerate it or adapt and survive it. This can be server, software or network. Hope that helps Darwin 4tw
Monty Burns	Posted - 2004.09.24 07:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Joshua Calvert I'm sure some of our resident geeks will tell us pilgrims what fault tolerance actually is........ Fault tolerence is exactly what it says, you get a fault or problem and it can tolerate it or adapt and survive it. This can be server, software or network. Hope that helps Darwin 4tw
Vailin Snow	Posted - 2004.09.24 08:11:00 - [9] It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it.
Vailin Snow	Posted - 2004.09.24 08:11:00 - [10] It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it.
mahhy	Posted - 2004.09.24 08:58:00 - [11] Considering what the last major fault was, and what they said in response to it, I would imagine they added some more physical fibre links and turned on Spanning Tree. Hopefully that way if one fibre link goes kaput, the switches automagically fail over to the other link basically. If it was something else, then just ignore me
mahhy	Posted - 2004.09.24 08:58:00 - [12] Considering what the last major fault was, and what they said in response to it, I would imagine they added some more physical fibre links and turned on Spanning Tree. Hopefully that way if one fibre link goes kaput, the switches automagically fail over to the other link basically. If it was something else, then just ignore me
Aitrus	Posted - 2004.09.24 09:52:00 - [13] Originally by: Vailin Snow It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it. But unlike the damage control modules, this should actually be useful.
Aitrus	Posted - 2004.09.24 09:52:00 - [14] Originally by: Vailin Snow It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it. But unlike the damage control modules, this should actually be useful.
Oveur	Posted - 2004.09.24 09:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Aitrus Originally by: Vailin Snow It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it. But unlike the damage control modules, this should actually be useful. Exactly! There'll be some more specific info given I assume. We're bit busy diagnosing all the changes. And Damage Control Modules are useful for one thing tho. Keeping those low slots company when you don't use them. Everybody needs company _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Oveur	Posted - 2004.09.24 09:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Aitrus Originally by: Vailin Snow It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it. But unlike the damage control modules, this should actually be useful. Exactly! There'll be some more specific info given I assume. We're bit busy diagnosing all the changes. And Damage Control Modules are useful for one thing tho. Keeping those low slots company when you don't use them. Everybody needs company _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Jernau Gurgeh	Posted - 2004.09.24 09:59:00 - [17] Originally by: Vailin Snow It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it. I'd agree with you there, if it weren't for the fact that damage control modules are the most useless items in the game There are 10 sorts of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who do not.
Jernau Gurgeh	Posted - 2004.09.24 09:59:00 - [18] Originally by: Vailin Snow It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it. I'd agree with you there, if it weren't for the fact that damage control modules are the most useless items in the game There are 10 sorts of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who do not.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.09.24 10:27:00 - [19] With the environment they've got it probably involves Extra Power Supplies if needed. Extra SAN switches and repatching the SAN to distribute it across any extra equipment. Maybe extra Fibre Channel cards in the servers as well though but I'd assume (hope) that they've got dual port cards going to different switches anyway and extra cards are almost always for performance issues not resiliancy. If a FC card dies the servers pretty screwed anyway. That's my best guess.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.09.24 10:27:00 - [20] With the environment they've got it probably involves Extra Power Supplies if needed. Extra SAN switches and repatching the SAN to distribute it across any extra equipment. Maybe extra Fibre Channel cards in the servers as well though but I'd assume (hope) that they've got dual port cards going to different switches anyway and extra cards are almost always for performance issues not resiliancy. If a FC card dies the servers pretty screwed anyway. That's my best guess.
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.09.24 12:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Aitrus Originally by: Vailin Snow It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it. But unlike the damage control modules, this should actually be useful. Exactly! There'll be some more specific info given I assume. We're bit busy diagnosing all the changes. And Damage Control Modules are useful for one thing tho. Keeping those low slots company when you don't use them. Everybody needs company right, so now we make useless items just to keep other items "happy"... "We brake for nobody"
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2004.09.24 12:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Aitrus Originally by: Vailin Snow It's like the dammage control module, but for a server and in real life... Means if some piece of hardware breaks they have redundancy to take care of it. But unlike the damage control modules, this should actually be useful. Exactly! There'll be some more specific info given I assume. We're bit busy diagnosing all the changes. And Damage Control Modules are useful for one thing tho. Keeping those low slots company when you don't use them. Everybody needs company right, so now we make useless items just to keep other items "happy"... "We brake for nobody"
Shiakarma	Posted - 2004.09.24 13:14:00 - [23] There was me thinking they were actually going to increase how tolerant they are of various faults with the game ...doh! Computer games don't affect children. If PacMan had affected us as kids then we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music.
Shiakarma	Posted - 2004.09.24 13:14:00 - [24] There was me thinking they were actually going to increase how tolerant they are of various faults with the game ...doh! Computer games don't affect children. If PacMan had affected us as kids then we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music.
Scruluse	Posted - 2004.09.24 13:50:00 - [25] What is this "real life" that you speak of? Scruluse Old Farts
Scruluse	Posted - 2004.09.24 13:50:00 - [26] What is this "real life" that you speak of? Scruluse Old Farts
Shog Hassen	Posted - 2004.09.24 14:02:00 - [27] Purley conjecture on my part but If I read the official announcement correctly they basically ran out of places to plug things in. They were tripping circuit breakers and dropping machines. So they were adding circuits to spread out the load. I suppose a server tripping a breaker and losing power could be considered a fault. (shrug)
Shog Hassen	Posted - 2004.09.24 14:02:00 - [28] Purley conjecture on my part but If I read the official announcement correctly they basically ran out of places to plug things in. They were tripping circuit breakers and dropping machines. So they were adding circuits to spread out the load. I suppose a server tripping a breaker and losing power could be considered a fault. (shrug)
Zenst	Posted - 2004.09.24 15:07:00 - [29] Fault Tollerance in the IT Dictionary says - Too educate the user to faults so often that they become tollerant of them, see also undocumented features.
Zenst	Posted - 2004.09.24 15:07:00 - [30] Fault Tollerance in the IT Dictionary says - Too educate the user to faults so often that they become tollerant of them, see also undocumented features.

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