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Abel Merkabah Caldari Provisions Caldari State 10	Posted - 2012.05.22 05:46:00 - [31] - Quote Iamien wrote: Difficulty in EVE has a direct inverse relationship with how attached you are to your stuff. See: tech alliances with awesome ship reimbursements, makes eve easy. Truth... Lol...I like the potential chaos of Eve. I just want to watch things burn, even if it is my own ships... Attachment to material possessions (even of the virtual variety) is what causes all the rage in my observation... Free yourself and enjoy the destruction... "To destroy is always the first step in any creation." - E. E. Cummings
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1508	Posted - 2012.05.22 06:05:00 - [32] - Quote This game is hard only because people bring their RL sense of entitlement here, and that sense of entitlement gets rolled up into a sock and used to beat them to a pulp. Works as intended - now if only they would take the lesson back to RL.
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1044	Posted - 2012.05.22 07:34:00 - [33] - Quote Jessie-A Tassik wrote: So now you have accused me of being "bitter". God, you people really do talk like women. Being female, this does not really seem to have had the derogatory effect you may have intended. Jessie-A Tassik wrote: Continue claiming getting all the tech moons for some reason is HARD. I especially like the part where you own all the tech moons in... Oh wait... "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Killer Gandry V I R I I Ineluctable. 462	Posted - 2012.05.22 07:42:00 - [34] - Quote Well I ain't a Goon fanboi. But they have tactics that work and if you can adopt a working tactic to your own situation it doesn't matter where it comes from. If you refuse to use tactics your opponent uses because they are your opponents then you are a far more serious fail. Specially if those tactics would save your arse.
Sup B1tches Quovis CORE Alliance 29	Posted - 2012.05.22 08:24:00 - [35] - Quote Well i think 'Eve is hard' could be down to one thing; Eve universe is too big. - Too many things to do - Too many options for PVP - Too much focus on making isk - Too easy to lose said isk As a consequence of that a lot of people are sometimes too caught up in personal things in Eve to band together and go fight the goons/enemy. Not knocking anything here i am just observing what i have seen. Lets look at things another way... what if: - Ships never exploded, they just got transported back to your station - Items were seeded automatically at set prices - a lot of people were in easy reach for you to kill - Automatic access to ships/mods/etc - No need to take 30 or more jumps to get anywhere significant One of these is Eve. The other is Sisi. personally i think Sisi is WAY more fun than eve cause PVP is easier.
No'mak Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 6	Posted - 2012.05.22 08:44:00 - [36] - Quote Cheers OP, you summed up my thoughts exactly!
Jonah Gravenstein 325	Posted - 2012.05.22 11:40:00 - [37] - Quote Which of you Goons touched the NPC alt inappropriately? I wish to congratulate that person for providing a never ending source of shitposting, I've been using the methane generated to power my missile drives because it's better for the environment than the radioactive waste I was using before. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
Cutter Isaacson Peace n Quiet 133	Posted - 2012.05.22 12:11:00 - [38] - Quote Jessie-A Tassik wrote: Benilopax wrote: I knew a troll would come out from under a bridge sooner or later. You don't have to be a friend of goons to adopt their attitude to new players being important. Yes maybe I was an idiot in the past, but I have learned from my experiences and not become bitter about it. You seem bitter in your reply, but everyone has to have critics. So now you have accused me of being "bitter". God, you people really do talk like women. A new group won't have Tech Moons and 100 man Jump Drive blobs that will curb stomp them anywhere in Low Sec, so your "Good Man" bs is just setting people up to be targets for your buddies. AS YOU WELL KNOW. Unless, of course, maybe they should join a Null Sec corp, you know, what you and yours want/demand others do. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!! Welcome to EVE's very own garden of idiots. Here for your viewing pleasure is a prime example of an EVE idiot. Sexism, an inability to comprehend simple conversation and an almost pathological hatred of anyone who isn't "Just like them". See the idiot in his natural habitat, filling the EVE forums with their non-sequiturs, incomprehensible drivel and madman style ranting. Jess, dude, you really do need to take a chill pill, take some time away from EVE and remember that its a game, it doesn't revolve around you and that EVE is designed from the ground up to be a cold, harsh place. If you want warm and fluffy, go spoon with a Bunny Rabbit in front of a roaring fire.
Benilopax The Ashen Lion Syndicate The Ashen Syndicate 326	Posted - 2012.05.22 12:17:00 - [39] - Quote Jessie-A Tassik wrote: Iamien wrote: Difficulty in EVE has a direct inverse relationship with how attached you are to your stuff. See: tech alliances with awesome ship reimbursements, makes eve easy. And here we see what skippees little post is about. You should join the Goons, or Test, or some other Null group. In fact, mechanics will be changed till you quit or do so. Btw I live in high sec and have done for several years, I got bored of Null sec and it's politics. EVE Racing event thread:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107164&find=unread Join in game channel/mailing list: New Eden Racing
Gealbhan Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 145	Posted - 2012.05.22 12:34:00 - [40] - Quote EvE is what you make it. It can be harder it can be easy if you make the right inroads. Who you know is just as important as what you know.

Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1049	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:01:00 - [41] - Quote Cutter Isaacson wrote: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!! Welcome to EVE's very own garden of idiots. Here for your viewing pleasure is a prime example of an EVE idiot. Sexism, an inability to comprehend simple conversation and an almost pathological hatred of anyone who isn't "Just like them". See the idiot in his natural habitat, filling the EVE forums with their non-sequiturs, incomprehensible drivel and madman style ranting. Jess, dude, you really do need to take a chill pill, take some time away from EVE and remember that its a game, it doesn't revolve around you and that EVE is designed from the ground up to be a cold, harsh place. If you want warm and fluffy, go spoon with a Bunny Rabbit in front of a roaring fire. Wait, wait, wait... ...we can play Eve and do the bunny thing, right? "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 30	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:07:00 - [42] - Quote @ OP Excellent post Plus 100 for you for stand up your wrists and fight back. This is the real Eve and it's YOUR place, not the easy kitty on line for high sec bullies.
Cearain Imperial Outlaws 427	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:17:00 - [43] - Quote Benilopax wrote: So I say to all those who feel helpless struggling to keep their head above the complexity of the sandbox, if you really want to feel what this game is like on hard mode, stand up for yourselves make friends and new allies band together and fight. Actually play this game in it's full potential, I won't lie it's likely you will lose. Afterall, EVE is hard. Most of eve isn't really complex or hard. Its high maintance, time consuming, and tedious. Strategy: Get a lots of people! Is that complex? Tactic: Get lots of people! Is that complex? CCP is confusing "tedious and time consuming" with "Complex and challenging." There are aspects of eve that are complex and challenging. Such as small gang warfare. But CCP is throwing that under the bus for null sec were it all depends on getting more people. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Aqriue Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 676	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:25:00 - [44] - Quote Quote: EVE is hard. Some words of advice to the downtrodden. Best advice, just cancel your account and forget about EVE. It did work..oh about 8 months ago. We do know that so many canceled their accounts and got 120 people fired (too soon?) because they were so downtrodden about where EVE was going. To bad CCP can't force people to pay if they don't enjoy the game and to bad the rest of the morons can't give respect to the other monkies playing the game without coming off as a jackass. /thread
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1049	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:28:00 - [45] - Quote Aqriue wrote: Quote: EVE is hard. Some words of advice to the downtrodden. Best advice, just cancel your account and forget about EVE. It did work..oh about 8 months ago. We do know that so many canceled their accounts and got 120 people fired (too soon?) because they were so downtrodden about where EVE was going. To bad CCP can't force people to pay if they don't enjoy the game and to bad the rest of the morons can't give respect to the other monkies playing the game without coming off as a jackass. /thread Could you try cancelling your account again, Aqriue? I think they really might listen to you this time. Better leave it cancelled indefinitely though, just to make sure. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Skorpynekomimi 196	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:29:00 - [46] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Benilopax wrote: I have been playing EVE for almost 8 years. I have lost everything I had twice, I am talking down to one ship and less than 100mil here. Once evacuating from 0.0 and again when a wormhole corp I was a member of imploded. As good an advertisement as any for keeping a large supply of liquid capital. Good post. Or at least a mining ship and a mission boat tucked away with a jump clone in highsec somewhere, so you can get back on your feet. Anything left where it could potentially be captured or destroyed should be considered lost as soon as it's put there.
Wacktopia Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 245	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:46:00 - [47] - Quote The minute you realise EVE is not just about ISK, assets and shiney-winged-flying-lions you start to understand and win. If you're in a player corp then war-dec is just something you have to accept is coming with it, regardless of your play-style. ~CCP


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