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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.12 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Seph Res not buyin the reset at all, waiting for proof
I do believe that Shamis cares a lot about you and your opinion.
I also believe he is very interested in all the opinions posted in this thread.

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Murrior
Amarr Black Serpent Technologies
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Posted - 2009.07.13 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sango Jaha I guess as much as most of us would really like to believe that your standing reset is indeed a "real" reset, most of 0.0 are well aware of 0.0 politics and therefore are not fooled.
Reset on overview maybe, but PL forgot to mention the little lines of the contract: - Not territorial warfare - No moongold warfare - If any of our "ex" allies have "BIG" issues, we'll be there to save our mutual asses.
Good start PL, but try harder. 0.0 still have some faith left in you. But not much.
In all honesty, why is this a bad thing?
This is a game with some horrible parts, and pos/sov warfare is one of those. So if they did find a way around it, isn't that a good thing? Sure it sucks on the point that you feel like playing in a pre-arranged match with lots of rules and never take it to the end but still, its an invitation to CCP to finally deal with it.
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Gaius Capua
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.13 00:50:00 -
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It's important to this alliance that we convince empire pubbies of our reset by engaging in POS warfare. (Max style) against the NC. So don't worry. We will uphold our space honour.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:11:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Reprimander
Sorry PL, going around ganking NPC'ers is only going to get you so much fun. There will come a time when you want something a bit more substantial - and this non-reset is not it.
NPC'ers in dreads and Motherships.
If only we could kill some real ships <sadface> --- I spent 3 months in Delve, and all I got was a lousy Shrike mail
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Scatim Helicon
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.13 16:50:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Reprimander POS warfare is only boring when people don't defend.
You mean like that time when we invaded Delve?
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Spiffy Sunkist
Gallente Malevolent Evolution
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Posted - 2009.07.13 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Reprimander POS warfare is only boring when people don't defend.
You mean like that time when we invaded Delve?
Or when bob invaded you.
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Machine Delta
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.13 18:19:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Spiffy Sunkist
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Reprimander POS warfare is only boring when people don't defend.
You mean like that time when we invaded Delve?
Or when bob invaded you.
Which failed invasion attempt are you referencing? There are at least 3 notable ones.
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Svett
Caldari Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2009.07.13 19:28:00 -
[218]
A PL reset just means you will see the titan dd'ing you on your overview instead of it being surprise sex.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
Minmatar The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.13 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Slap Chop Or maybe privateers, they control everything anyhow.
 However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Orree
Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.07.13 23:09:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Lofe sXe Edited by: Lofe sXe on 12/07/2009 15:49:54
Originally by: Kalek Astroth enjoy the reset
we're better than you at "re"setting 
[21:36:12] Liam Fremen > Seems like that your diplomats worth as nothing in TRI [21:36:28] Liam Fremen > since you asked an agrement for not hot-dropping on stainwagon and eachoter [21:36:46] Liam Fremen > i hope you had fun at loosing your face and your word for 1 kill
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[ 2009.07.11 19:57:23 ] INZi > I'm convoing you about the hotdrop incident [ 2009.07.11 20:04:03 ] INZi > I want to personally apologise about the incident [ 2009.07.11 20:08:03 ] INZi > only people we will be using caps vs in stain are Brick Squad
Given you have an agreement of no Sov warfare with 80% of 0.0, I find your approach to this matter more than a 'touch' hypocritical.
It's not hypocritical to point it out. It's hypocritical to act as though one is any different than anyone else.
It's pretty well-established that:
1. Everyone will bring what they can to a fight. 2. When it matters, everyone fights to "win" first and "get good fights" second. 3. Everyone will make deals that best suit their needs at a given time and take steps to limit their risk--- oftentimes regardless of their stated philosophies.
There is no problem with these things in and of themselves. Equivocating about the extent is self-serving at best.
The problem is that that there's a large contingent of the respondants in this forum (and others) who think they are different and/or better than everyone else and they smack anyone and everyone hard and often in order to "prove" it. This is where the hypocrisy comes in.
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |

Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.14 00:49:00 -
[221]
This reset means my chanceof being blown up by blues has reduced significantly.
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Kell Braugh
Caldari Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 02:02:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Gaius Capua It's important to this alliance that we convince empire pubbies of our reset by engaging in POS warfare. (Max style) against the NC. So don't worry. We will uphold our space honour.
I'll believe that when I see it... - In essence, any combat related activity involving damage has been 'speed nerfed' to just take 6 times longer with a predetermined outcome coined balance by CCP. |

Eline Nephthys
Caldari Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.07.14 09:40:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Efdi
Originally by: Seph Res not buyin the reset at all, waiting for proof
pl is well known for trolling the 0.0 community with fakepost resets~
PL was well known to be neutral pirates roaming 0.0 with everyone flashy red. Does any of you still flash red?
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Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.14 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eline Nephthys
Originally by: Efdi
Originally by: Seph Res not buyin the reset at all, waiting for proof
pl is well known for trolling the 0.0 community with fakepost resets~
PL was well known to be neutral pirates roaming 0.0 with everyone flashy red. Does any of you still flash red?
Most of snigg still flashes red.
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NeoTheo
Caldari Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.07.14 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most of snigg still flashes red.
tis the way forward. ;)
congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?
guess what i am saying is standing's reset or not, its more likly youd spend your time attacking ex GBC / BoB friends, than it is goons or NC, so not sure how this is anything other than posturing.
still all that said, GL to PL with the new standings.
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BiaXia
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.14 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTheo
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most of snigg still flashes red.
tis the way forward. ;)
congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?
guess what i am saying is standing's reset or not, its more likly youd spend your time attacking ex GBC / BoB friends, than it is goons or NC, so not sure how this is anything other than posturing.
still all that said, GL to PL with the new standings.
Are you kidding? PL love to kill goons, they killed more in the early days of the Delve War than anyone else did, as a matter of fact.
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.14 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTheo
congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?
no one wants to own omist so an invasion of atlas's core is about as likely as an invasion of catch
Sins of a Solar Spymaster: my ~fair and balanced~ tentonhammer.com column |

NeoTheo
Caldari Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.07.14 15:43:00 -
[228]
Originally by: BiaXia
Are you kidding? PL love to kill goons, they killed more in the early days of the Delve War than anyone else did, as a matter of fact.
Couldnt tell what was happening at that time mate, i was double bubbled in some station holding some firesale for you lot ;)
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Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTheo
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most of snigg still flashes red.
tis the way forward. ;)
congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?
guess what i am saying is standing's reset or not, its more likly youd spend your time attacking ex GBC / BoB friends, than it is goons or NC, so not sure how this is anything other than posturing.
still all that said, GL to PL with the new standings.
Yes, I'm sure it will come as a great shocker that we'll be more likely to attack ex-GBC/allies than we are to attack our own former allies.
However, the whole point of a standings reset is that we can go wherever we want, and shoot whatever we want, on a whim. Don't expect any large military campaigns from us anytime soon. Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.
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Eltyron
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.
I'm pretty sure our enemies would consider it a harpooning session. Plus we can use these sessions to trim the fat.
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Eline Nephthys
Caldari Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Eline Nephthys on 14/07/2009 18:36:11
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Eline Nephthys
Originally by: Efdi
Originally by: Seph Res not buyin the reset at all, waiting for proof
pl is well known for trolling the 0.0 community with fakepost resets~
PL was well known to be neutral pirates roaming 0.0 with everyone flashy red. Does any of you still flash red?
Most of snigg still flashes red.
Grats, but I'm speaking about PL and what it use to stand for. Not 1 corp out of 26 in what became of "modern PL". Not saying its bad, just pointing that things change. PL had a reputation, and still has. Just not quiet the same reputation.
edit: even worst grammar than now
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Admiral Frools
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eline Nephthys
Grats, but I'm speaking about PL and what it use to stand for. Not 1 corp out of 26 in what became of "modern PL". Not saying its bad, just pointing that things change. PL had a reputation, and still has. Just not quiet the same reputation.
edit: even worst grammar than now
It would help if you would elaborate on what you think PL had a reputation for 
If it was roaming everywhere in eve and blowing **** up, then this reset brings us as close as we're going to ever come to that short of turning back time. Either way, I'm sure "modern PL" will enjoy it, flashy red or not (I FLASH RED) 
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Daviclond
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:32:00 -
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gah. those PL guys used to have a name, a reputation behind them. then they started posting like goons. now look at them.
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Mizdek
Caldari Better Dead Then Smeg
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:43:00 -
[234]
I know you're all ignoring him and stuff, but is Orree's chat supposed to be ironic or something? No one really types like that, do they?
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Kilostream
Caldari Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kilostream on 14/07/2009 21:07:52 GL, HF, C Ya next time!
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XxAngelxX
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Eltyron
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.
I'm pretty sure our enemies would consider it a harpooning session. Plus we can use these sessions to trim the fat.
oh no you di'nt!
also, i, too, am flashy red --------------------------------------
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NeoTheo
Caldari Dark Materials
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Posted - 2009.07.14 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Yes, I'm sure it will come as a great shocker that we'll be more likely to attack ex-GBC/allies than we are to attack our own former allies.
I deserved that, fair cop. ;)
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
However, the whole point of a standings reset is that we can go wherever we want, and shoot whatever we want, on a whim. Don't expect any large military campaigns from us anytime soon. Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.
Enjoy, after what must have been a eyebleedingly long campaign i am sure you guys (and gals) deserve it.
/Theo
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dastommy79
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:40:00 -
[238]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: NeoTheo
congratulations on the standings re-set, have to admit being slightly cynical about it personally (not that my opinion matters), as no matter what the tag in game; friends will be friends; how long till you lot send a fully fledged attack to atlas's front door?
no one wants to own omist so an invasion of atlas's core is about as likely as an invasion of catch
Confirming Omist is pretty terrible. I honestly might prefer lowsec to it in hindsight. Its the worst thing goons could ever do to atlas.
Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader WTB Leviathan. Hit me up ingame
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SK Rooster
Gallente No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.07.15 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Orree It's pretty well-established that:
1. Everyone will bring what they can to a fight.
Not everyone brings what they can to a fight, some people like myself believe to bring only what is necessary to win the fight. One of the few things that is still fun in this game is a challenging fight.
If you find fun in winning fights where you outnumber the opponent by a factor of five over and over then you are truly missing out on the best part of eve.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.15 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Eltyron
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Do expect us to randomly show up in everybody's back yard for a turkey shoot.
I'm pretty sure our enemies would consider it a harpooning session. Plus we can use these sessions to trim the fat.
Well played good sir , well played .
PS: You do know they outlawed whaling , right ? Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
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