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joes Bazooka Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.05.22 08:00:00 - [1] - Quote So i hear a lot of talk about Tengus soloing C3's with ease, but at the moment i am having to warp out and back at certain stages so can i get some of the fits that are C3 machines And is your fit reliant on all lvl V skills and implants. (ISK not an issue) Thanks in advance
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 122	Posted - 2012.05.22 08:23:00 - [2] - Quote the tengu profits very very much from throwing money at it. the difference between no implants and full crystal + 5% missile implants is enormous. also, a T2 tank will perform much much worse than a 1bil deadspace tank. that said, you do not need to spend that much to get c3 anoms done. try building your tank around a pith a-type small shield booster, cap stable if you can.
Coolsmoke State War Academy Caldari State 11	Posted - 2012.05.22 08:25:00 - [3] - Quote For C3 anomalies, you need 55-60% cap stability and a 650dps omnitank. You can achieve that with a T2 fit and T1 rigs. For the higher-end radars & mags (Unsecured Frontier Receiver/Forgotten Frontier Recursive Depot) there's a lot more neuting & dps especially in the final waves. You'll need 70% cap stability and a 900dps omnitank, plus a bit of management of transversal to fend off some of the incoming BS damage. In terms of skills - get Offensive, Defensive and Engineering to V as soon as you can. In terms of fits, I'd go no prop mod and added tank. The Tengu's stupidly OP range means you don't need to chase anything. HOwever, adding a prop mod does give you another option or two for GTFO if someone lands on you. Triple faction BCU and either a large DED booster or two small Pith boosters seem to be the most common options for site-running fits.
Ketplunk Loki's Legion The Shadowbolts Collective 1	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:01:00 - [4] - Quote Cap stability is over rated, especially when you can simply out range the neuts. (They neut out to 70km) The fit I used to use was this, or a variation of it, and it was extremely effective : [Tengu, New Setup 6] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Invulnerability Field II Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Damage control can be dropped for a BCS, up to you. EDIT : Also, having no prop mod is a stupid thing to do on a Tengu, removes most of your speed tank.
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 124	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:29:00 - [5] - Quote seeing tengus without rigors makes me so sad :(
Ketplunk Loki's Legion The Shadowbolts Collective 1	Posted - 2012.05.22 13:42:00 - [6] - Quote Rigs were when i had terrible fitting skills, rigor would have pushed my CPU over the limit :P
Vjorn Angannon Fleet Escort Services Exotic Matter Coalition 25	Posted - 2012.05.22 14:02:00 - [7] - Quote I have spent about the last 20 months in a C3 system, in a small corp. Since a good portion of the time I am logged on alone; combined with a high-sec static, the strong probability of multiple K162 connections and only a laptop with three accounts, I came up with a different setup than the norm. [Tengu, Tengu C3 Solo ] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Caldari Navy EM Ward Field Shield Boost Amplifier II 10MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile Expanded Probe Launcher I, Combat Scanner Probe I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Stats all V no Implants; DPS: 501 CN Scourge, 560 Scourge Fury Tank: 560 Resists: 75/89.5/84.2/73.7 Targeting: 81.25km Cap Stability: 43% Speed: 633m/s I use the above fit for the anomalies and the RR'ing rad/mag sites. For the Neut'ing Rad/Mag sites I swap the 4th BCS for DCU II. Why the probe launcher? To watch for new sigs while killing sleepers. On paper the cap and tank may seem a bit light for some of the sites; which is where knowing the sites and how to pilot comes in to play. This post should provide clues on how to deal with sleeper neuts. Combine this with transversal and speed/sig tanking, and even 3 Sleeper Upholders aren't overwhelming. (hint: choose your missile type wisely) Something else that will help is to train leadership skills and form a fleet with your alts.
MackemInSpace Harm Co. 17	Posted - 2012.05.24 07:27:00 - [8] - Quote Personally, I'm more a fan of the HAMgu for solo c2/c3 PVE... more damage (to the larger targets anyway) and you get to fly in close and get your hands dirty in the fight rather than just sitting still and pinging HM's in from range. My old solo boat before I pulled it apart to turn it into an RRgu... [Tengu, War Hog] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Overdrive Injector System II Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Assault Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Core Defense Operational Solidifier I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Soraya Jita Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.05.25 22:15:00 - [9] - Quote I run with a Legion buddy, so I end up being one of those "lazy" Tengu pilots that just approaches the last spawn, usually just in time for it to trigger. Here's my fit, not too pricy, but effective. Cap stable around 58%, 560 DPS, Not sure the tank, but its more than substantial. Tengu- C3 5x HML II's (Scourge Fury) 2x T2 Shield Boost Amps 2x T2 Adaptive Invulns 1x T2 EM Ward Field 1- Med Pithum C-Type Shield Booster 3x Caldari Navy BCU 2x T2 Power Diagnostic System Rigs: Rigor T2 Flare T2 CCC T2 Can tank all things with the exception of the Recursive Depot Mag sites like a breeze. Those mags make my butt tighten up a little on that last wave...
Soraya Jita Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.05.25 22:19:00 - [10] - Quote Soraya Jita wrote: I run with a Legion buddy, so I end up being one of those "lazy" Tengu pilots that just approaches the last spawn, usually just in time for it to trigger. Here's my fit, not too pricy, but effective. Cap stable around 58%, 560 DPS, Not sure the tank, but its more than substantial. Tengu- C3 5x HML II's (Scourge Fury) 2x T2 Shield Boost Amps 2x T2 Adaptive Invulns 1x T2 EM Ward Field 1- Med Pithum C-Type Shield Booster 3x Caldari Navy BCU 2x T2 Power Diagnostic System Rigs: Rigor T2 Flare T2 CCC T2 Can tank all things with the exception of the Recursive Depot Mag sites like a breeze. Those mags make my butt tighten up a little on that last wave... Suppose the Subs are important to: Offensive: Accelerated Ejection Bay Defensive: Amplification Node Propulsion: intercalated Nanofibers Engineering: Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Electronics: Dissolution Sequencer
Windorian Leeole's Legion 25	Posted - 2012.05.26 06:15:00 - [11] - Quote I'm a dedicated Tengu Pilot, so let me give my 2 isk. The 2 main things i HATE seeing on a Solo C3 tengu: ALL CCC rigs Prop Mods Why? CCC rigs are nice for stability, but not needed. Only a few of the C3 sites (most of them mag/rdr) have any real hard nueting, most are not that bad. Maintaining 40%+ Cap stability is fine if you have reasonable DPS. You should have atleast 1 Rigor rig in there, it makes a HUGE difference in damage application. I mean HUGE. Having 600+ DPS is great, unless anything cruiser or frig sized evades 50% of that damage. Prop mods are near useless for a C3 Tengu. More then half the sleepers you fight are faster then you even with that shiney AB on. And many of them have webs, including the BS sleepers. What good is a AB gonna be when you have 3-5 webs on you for 1/2 the anomaly? All it does is eat a mid slot, and eat capacitor. Besides, it's a TENGU, one of it's biggest selling point is it has no optimal, if it can lock it (and you have decent skills) it should be able to hit it. I have a few go-to fits i reccomend. They aren't super cheap, but they are super effective. Subs are same for both setups except for the engineering sub: Accelerated Ejection Bay Intercalated Nanofibers Amplification node Dissolution Sequencer Barren Womb: (Cheaper, safer) Use the Cap regen matrix Sub Highs: 5 X T2 Heavy launcher Mids: 2 Adaptive invul fields 1 EM Ward 1 CN Shield boost amp 1 Pithi C-type small shield booster 1 Pithi C-type Medium shield booster Lows: 4 CN BCU 1 T2 Power Diagnostic system Rigs: 1 T2 Rigor 1 T2 Flare 1 T2 CCC With my skills/implants: Furies: 540 DPS / CN 490 DPS Just small booster: 330 DPS Tank Just Medium 550 DPS Tank Both on: 880 DPS tank 54% Cap stable with everything on. 112km Lock range, 98km fury range, 109km CN range Big seller for me on this fit was that it's HIGHLY nuet resistant, and i love the "3-tone-tank", meaning depending on how much DPS there is, you can switch to only the medium or only the small booster and save a TON of capacitor. I was never nueted out in this setup, not once. Spitfire Infant: (Much better DPS, much lighter everything else) Use Augmented Cap Reservoir for this setup Highs: 6 X T2 Heavy launcher Mids: 2 CN Adaptive 1 Pithi C-type EM 2 Pithi C-type Shield boost amps 1 Pithi A-type small shield booster Lows: 4 CN BCU Rigs: 1 T2 Rigor 1 T2 Flare 1 T2 CCC Scourge 680 DPS / CN 630 DPS 640 Omni-tank Cap stable 38% Lock and missile range un-affected This fit was AMAZING for DPS. It smacked the sleepers around like it was nothing, and even frigates couldn't last thanks to the T2 flare and rigor rigs (I also use crash booster alot). I had to watch the tank and cap though, as even a moderate amount of nuets could nuet it out fast. It's tank was enough for the anomalies, but it had a hard time in some of the Mag/RDR's. 640 DPS, from a FRIGATE sized shield booster... My last fit is my current one. Inner Labia: (Higher tank, same DPS, but less DMG application, and expensive. Use Augmented Cap Reservoir Highs: 6 x T2 Heavy Launcher Mids: 2 CN adaptive 1 Pithi A-type EM 2 Pithi C-type Shield boost amps 1 Pithi A-type Medium Shield booster Lows: 4 X CN BCU Rigs: 1 T2 Rigor 1 T2 CCC 1 T1 Shield Cap safegaurd Scourge 680 DPS / CN 630 DPS (applied is lower on frigs and cruiser due to lack of flare rig.) 1140 DPS omni-tank (yes, over 1,100) 44% Cap stable (resists medium nueting, only MAgs and RDR have enough to really hurt the Cap.) Lock and missile range un-affected. This setup has a HUGE tank. Compared to the Spitfire setup, i lost maybe 15% applied DPS on cruisers and lower (BS unaffected), but i gained over 75% MORE TANK. I haven't had to warp out of a site since. It's expensive, but it performs like a champ. There's my setups, judge them as you will but i'll sayt his, i haven't had any complaints, and plenty of ooh's and ahh's from corp-mates. Wind
Alyna Stormwind Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.05.26 06:27:00 - [12] - Quote So many cookie cutter setups
Hathrul DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 90	Posted - 2012.05.26 15:09:00 - [13] - Quote or just find a friend run 2 rr tengu's. that would work
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal 205	Posted - 2012.05.26 18:00:00 - [14] - Quote Alyna Stormwind wrote: So many cookie cutter setups And that's a problem why? Care to share you super unique never been seen before yet ++ber effective fit?
Bibosikus Universal Moose Federation Moose Alliance 111	Posted - 2012.05.28 13:54:00 - [15] - Quote Good grief that post is still being linked.. Thanks Vjorn Please remember that the tests I did were worst-case - ie. I wasn't doing any dps at all. Your in-game cap stability can be a fair few % less if you know what you're doing. I'll add my tuppenceworth: 1) You get hit a lot harder by BS if you sit still. Even 100m/sec transversal will bring incoming damage down by a decent amount. 2) Relating to 1, always always primary webbers. Except for triggers ofc. 3) A prop mod may mean a more expensive fit, and yes you'll be webbed 30% of the time.. but it's also very, very useful for running away. A 600m/sec+ Tengu aligned to a safespot while killing Sleepers is much much more difficult to point, web & kill than a fat tanker bobbing about surrounded by frigate wrecks. 3) Practise, practise, pay attention and learn. Knowing where Sleeper waves spawn - especially in the C3 mags & radars - means you can position your ship and generate transversal in advance. I can't stress how useful this is, especially for Legion/Loki pilots. In fact, I've half a mind to write some Eve Survival-type posts on C3 farming... The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux.
Vjorn Angannon Fleet Escort Services Exotic Matter Coalition 25	Posted - 2012.05.29 01:56:00 - [16] - Quote Bibosikus wrote: Good grief that post is still being linked.. Thanks Vjorn Not my fault you wrote a nice report and published it Is my fault for using you to substantiate this unknown w-spacer's claims Bibosikus wrote: I'll add my tuppenceworth: 1) You get hit a lot harder by BS if you sit still. Even 100m/sec transversal will bring incoming damage down by a decent amount. 2) Relating to 1, always always primary webbers. Except for triggers ofc. 3) A prop mod may mean a more expensive fit, and yes you'll be webbed 30% of the time.. but it's also very, very useful for running away. A 600m/sec+ Tengu aligned to a safespot while killing Sleepers is much much more difficult to point, web & kill than a fat tanker bobbing about surrounded by frigate wrecks. 3) Practise, practise, pay attention and learn. Knowing where Sleeper waves spawn - especially in the C3 mags & radars - means you can position your ship and generate transversal in advance. I can't stress how useful this is, especially for Legion/Loki pilots. ^^^ This (again, well written)
Mule hauler Interstellar Space Hebrews 18	Posted - 2012.05.29 07:15:00 - [17] - Quote [Tengu, Cheapest And Most Efficient Spider Gang RR Tengu] Capacitor Power Relay II Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Large Shield Extender II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Make some friends.
GKFC F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control 2	Posted - 2012.06.02 12:03:00 - [18] - Quote Windorian wrote: My last fit is my current one. Inner Labia: (Higher tank, same DPS, but less DMG application, and expensive. Use Augmented Cap Reservoir Highs: 6 x T2 Heavy Launcher Mids: 2 CN adaptive 1 Pithi A-type EM 2 Pithi C-type Shield boost amps 1 Pithi A-type Medium Shield booster Lows: 4 X CN BCU Rigs: 1 T2 Rigor 1 T2 CCC 1 T1 Shield Cap safegaurd Scourge 680 DPS / CN 630 DPS (applied is lower on frigs and cruiser due to lack of flare rig.) 1140 DPS omni-tank (yes, over 1,100) 44% Cap stable (resists medium nueting, only MAgs and RDR have enough to really hurt the Cap.) Lock and missile range un-affected. This setup has a HUGE tank. Compared to the Spitfire setup, i lost maybe 15% applied DPS on cruisers and lower (BS unaffected), but i gained over 75% MORE TANK. I haven't had to warp out of a site since. It's expensive, but it performs like a champ. 44% Cap stable? What implants are you using?

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