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Tyrellius
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Posted - 2003.06.22 23:39:00 -
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I love when people try to get m0o banned. I say CCP takes off PVP and makes it Earth and Veyond, then everyone will be happy. Either that or go play EnB.
It will be so much fun, let's all mine and do trade runs all day so that whole corp will be in Battleships, and wait lets all have 100 stations and take over all 0.0 sectors, and wait let's all have TITANS and jump around and go to Jovian space, and wait then we all get Jovian invincible ships and... well that's it.
That's game done, new game comes out, and we change... I guess 6 months down the line this can be done, as long as CCP puts all things in game.
Or, lets make game harder longer, make us pay more money for subscription. Have a challenge. I love Pirating as long as it is done with a bit of common sens. Then again, one you have MWD, pirating is pointless, unless you go in low sectors and attack miners. "Nothing is worth doing except that which the world says it's impossible..." |

Tyrellius
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Posted - 2003.06.22 23:39:00 -
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I love when people try to get m0o banned. I say CCP takes off PVP and makes it Earth and Veyond, then everyone will be happy. Either that or go play EnB.
It will be so much fun, let's all mine and do trade runs all day so that whole corp will be in Battleships, and wait lets all have 100 stations and take over all 0.0 sectors, and wait let's all have TITANS and jump around and go to Jovian space, and wait then we all get Jovian invincible ships and... well that's it.
That's game done, new game comes out, and we change... I guess 6 months down the line this can be done, as long as CCP puts all things in game.
Or, lets make game harder longer, make us pay more money for subscription. Have a challenge. I love Pirating as long as it is done with a bit of common sens. Then again, one you have MWD, pirating is pointless, unless you go in low sectors and attack miners. "Nothing is worth doing except that which the world says it's impossible..." |

Takeshi
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Posted - 2003.06.23 01:06:00 -
[33]
Dunno about banning M0o. But this warping crap has got to stop. Its like throwing a rabid badger into a preschool and locking the door.
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Takeshi
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Posted - 2003.06.23 01:06:00 -
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Dunno about banning M0o. But this warping crap has got to stop. Its like throwing a rabid badger into a preschool and locking the door.
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Skaz
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Posted - 2003.06.23 02:20:00 -
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Banning mOo would castrate this game and its developement, I mean CCP wants Pirate Corps, ok? mOo just got out of hand and I think CCP should deal with them IN-game instead of banning them and scaring everyone away from pirating, it would just destroy yet another possible profession, I mean since mOo started their rampage, both pirate corps and pirate hunting corps have popped up like I don't know what, it's a kickstart for this game.
Ok, this still doesn't mean I'm okay with mOoŠs tactics which are not only borderline but some are PURE exploits, (yeah I know CCP left weaknesses in the system, but did they NEED to use them? and thus exploit them, damn they sound like kids who cheat and still try to weasel their way out).
But I think that this is a chance for CCP to show that they can respond to this developing world in-game without "cheating" themselves, use the Jove or something to wipe out mOo, donŠt ban them.
/rant
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |

Skaz
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Posted - 2003.06.23 02:20:00 -
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Banning mOo would castrate this game and its developement, I mean CCP wants Pirate Corps, ok? mOo just got out of hand and I think CCP should deal with them IN-game instead of banning them and scaring everyone away from pirating, it would just destroy yet another possible profession, I mean since mOo started their rampage, both pirate corps and pirate hunting corps have popped up like I don't know what, it's a kickstart for this game.
Ok, this still doesn't mean I'm okay with mOoŠs tactics which are not only borderline but some are PURE exploits, (yeah I know CCP left weaknesses in the system, but did they NEED to use them? and thus exploit them, damn they sound like kids who cheat and still try to weasel their way out).
But I think that this is a chance for CCP to show that they can respond to this developing world in-game without "cheating" themselves, use the Jove or something to wipe out mOo, donŠt ban them.
/rant
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.06.23 02:59:00 -
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To me it's very simple: CCP needs to follow their own rules.
They need to decide NOW, not tomorrow or next week, whether or not MOo is exploiting. And what part of what they are doing is or is not exploiting.
Then if they decide something is an exploit, they need to notify MOo and wait to see how they respond before taking further action. If they continue with the action they were warned about, the rules call for suspension. If they continue beyond that, then it calls for banning.
Right now CCP is doing the entire playerbase a HUGE disservice by not making a clear, official statement on the entire situation. The arguements between both camps are a direct result of CCP's silence on the issue. Nobody knows who is right or who is wrong, leaving room for huge arguements that break all manner of the rules.
In fact I think I'll start a thread saying just this.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.06.23 02:59:00 -
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To me it's very simple: CCP needs to follow their own rules.
They need to decide NOW, not tomorrow or next week, whether or not MOo is exploiting. And what part of what they are doing is or is not exploiting.
Then if they decide something is an exploit, they need to notify MOo and wait to see how they respond before taking further action. If they continue with the action they were warned about, the rules call for suspension. If they continue beyond that, then it calls for banning.
Right now CCP is doing the entire playerbase a HUGE disservice by not making a clear, official statement on the entire situation. The arguements between both camps are a direct result of CCP's silence on the issue. Nobody knows who is right or who is wrong, leaving room for huge arguements that break all manner of the rules.
In fact I think I'll start a thread saying just this.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2003.06.23 08:46:00 -
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Can someone define exploit here?
Let's say I find a Tac Shield, equip 1 and you get 40% resist to all damage. This is good, to me common sense says "hey wonder what would happen if I equip 2 of them?"
So I equip 2 Tac shields and resistance increases even more!! Wow I still go plenty of CPU/Power so I equip 3 of them and my resistance goes up even further, now I'm only taking 10% of any damage that comes my way.
Does that make me a exploiter? An when I come and kill you with my 125mm Rails and your Uber 625mm Arty doesn't even scratch my paint, does that make me a Griefer?
Maybe we should stop yelling at each other and yell at CCP for allowing unbalanced equipment like this get in the game. Equipment that was reported in Beta as being to powerful. An was also reported as such on the Test Server, check Patch Review threads for verifcation if you don't believe me. 2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |

Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2003.06.23 08:46:00 -
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Can someone define exploit here?
Let's say I find a Tac Shield, equip 1 and you get 40% resist to all damage. This is good, to me common sense says "hey wonder what would happen if I equip 2 of them?"
So I equip 2 Tac shields and resistance increases even more!! Wow I still go plenty of CPU/Power so I equip 3 of them and my resistance goes up even further, now I'm only taking 10% of any damage that comes my way.
Does that make me a exploiter? An when I come and kill you with my 125mm Rails and your Uber 625mm Arty doesn't even scratch my paint, does that make me a Griefer?
Maybe we should stop yelling at each other and yell at CCP for allowing unbalanced equipment like this get in the game. Equipment that was reported in Beta as being to powerful. An was also reported as such on the Test Server, check Patch Review threads for verifcation if you don't believe me. 2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |

Bambi
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Posted - 2003.06.23 09:22:00 -
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New Anti-M00 wepaons/ammunition.
I have researched an improvement to 220mm Autocannon. It is now a 220mm Autoboltgun. Much like the ones found in slaughter houses. Basicaly all you need to do is get within 2m of a M00 and apply the 220mm boltgun to the forehead of the pilot of the ship. I have adivsed CCP of this improvement and they say it is not an exploit. You also get a 5% impriovement od damage per level if you have cow herding as a skill. Cow Herding is only available at character generation, and I am not sure if it is implimented in-game yet. The Boltgun uses standard projectile ammuntion but works most effectively with Iron Charges that have been blunted to maximise the kinetic energy transfered to the forhead.
Anyway now I have shared that with you all I'm off to train my herding skills....
If God made us to be just like him, then God is dumb and maybe a little ugly on the side...[F.Z] |

Bambi
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Posted - 2003.06.23 09:22:00 -
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New Anti-M00 wepaons/ammunition.
I have researched an improvement to 220mm Autocannon. It is now a 220mm Autoboltgun. Much like the ones found in slaughter houses. Basicaly all you need to do is get within 2m of a M00 and apply the 220mm boltgun to the forehead of the pilot of the ship. I have adivsed CCP of this improvement and they say it is not an exploit. You also get a 5% impriovement od damage per level if you have cow herding as a skill. Cow Herding is only available at character generation, and I am not sure if it is implimented in-game yet. The Boltgun uses standard projectile ammuntion but works most effectively with Iron Charges that have been blunted to maximise the kinetic energy transfered to the forhead.
Anyway now I have shared that with you all I'm off to train my herding skills....
If God made us to be just like him, then God is dumb and maybe a little ugly on the side...[F.Z] |

ScyLarc
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Posted - 2003.06.23 10:17:00 -
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"Anyway now I have shared that with you all I'm off to train my herding skills...."
I believe a Cattle prod is very helpful for this
-- "It's hard to lead a cavalry charge if you think you look funny on a horse." |

ScyLarc
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Posted - 2003.06.23 10:17:00 -
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"Anyway now I have shared that with you all I'm off to train my herding skills...."
I believe a Cattle prod is very helpful for this
-- "It's hard to lead a cavalry charge if you think you look funny on a horse." |

Serge
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Posted - 2003.06.23 11:28:00 -
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Pirates? nope, MOo is no pirate corp, they are cowards that hit-an-run. Attacking someone they never dealt be4 without any warning, destroying his ship like 2 of me mates happened last eve at assah (amarr, sec level 0.3) and running away to station after getting counterattacked by our CEO (he vs the two MOo heroes) ... thats real heroism!
We tried to deal with Ps be4 and had to admit, its nearly impossible to get your hand on someone special that docked at a station ... but its very easy to camp a gate and pod everyone that comes out of warp! COOL guys! 2vs1, without warning! great! griefers thats all you are! thats not RP, thats not pirating thats griefing! ***********************************************
... "we suddenly have a good 2 dozen Chicken Littles running about proclaiming tha |

Serge
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Posted - 2003.06.23 11:28:00 -
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Pirates? nope, MOo is no pirate corp, they are cowards that hit-an-run. Attacking someone they never dealt be4 without any warning, destroying his ship like 2 of me mates happened last eve at assah (amarr, sec level 0.3) and running away to station after getting counterattacked by our CEO (he vs the two MOo heroes) ... thats real heroism!
We tried to deal with Ps be4 and had to admit, its nearly impossible to get your hand on someone special that docked at a station ... but its very easy to camp a gate and pod everyone that comes out of warp! COOL guys! 2vs1, without warning! great! griefers thats all you are! thats not RP, thats not pirating thats griefing! *********************************************** ... "we suddenly have a good 2 dozen Chicken Littles running about proclaiming tha |

Silmaril
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Posted - 2003.06.23 11:32:00 -
[47]
Absolute rubbish. 2vs 1 is not griefing. Its a sensible tactic for what they want to achieve - ie the destruction of ships in low sec space.
Why give the opposition an advantage when you don't have to. I don't think you would. If thats how you fight, you won't last very long.
"Do not waste your tears. I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men." |

Silmaril
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Posted - 2003.06.23 11:32:00 -
[48]
Absolute rubbish. 2vs 1 is not griefing. Its a sensible tactic for what they want to achieve - ie the destruction of ships in low sec space.
Why give the opposition an advantage when you don't have to. I don't think you would. If thats how you fight, you won't last very long.
"Do not waste your tears. I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men." |

Good'eye
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Scrapyard Jack ehehehe!
Scrapyard Jack has seen this argument a million times!
"Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players without provocation."
Scrapyard Jack recognises that PKin' (however unpleasant) is a game mechanic, not a grief tactic, and so should you!
ehehehe!
Edit: In fact, Scrapyard Jack is sure that m0o could almost demand your banning for this continued harassment! ehehehe!
Griefer!!
Edited by: Scrapyard Jack on 22/06/2003 11:52:05
talking in 3rd person is sad
Surfing corpse ftw! Your posting privileges have now been suspended for 24 hours. |

Lt Silver
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: Good'eye
Originally by: Scrapyard Jack ehehehe!
Scrapyard Jack has seen this argument a million times!
"Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players without provocation."
Scrapyard Jack recognises that PKin' (however unpleasant) is a game mechanic, not a grief tactic, and so should you!
ehehehe!
Edit: In fact, Scrapyard Jack is sure that m0o could almost demand your banning for this continued harassment! ehehehe!
Griefer!!
Edited by: Scrapyard Jack on 22/06/2003 11:52:05
talking in 3rd person is sad
what he said
I Do Not Run From Conflict, I Simply ADVANCE In The Other Direction |

sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:34:00 -
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MOO are no more - there are copycats and then there is various pirate groups with old Moo members. But the original is dead and buried
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:35:00 -
[52]
who are we talking about again ?
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Lt Silver
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:37:00 -
[53]
Originally by: sonofollo who are we talking about again ?
i dunno, u? or Santa?
I Do Not Run From Conflict, I Simply ADVANCE In The Other Direction |

Verone
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:38:00 -
[54]
Pretty pointless bringing this thread up when it's TWO YEARS OLD.
ffs. grow a brain, the mods have got better things to do i'm sure.
SniggleVision |

sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:39:00 -
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pirate tactics havent changed much - sure they have to hunt in groups and adapt - still ganking in low sec or just plain anything in 0.0 is the same.
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Good'eye
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Pretty pointless bringing this thread up when it's TWO YEARS OLD.
ffs. grow a brain, the mods have got better things to do i'm sure.
I love the babeh in ur siggy, hes all cute and cuddleh and wuvvable ;.; i just wanna hug em till his nose bleeds
Surfing corpse ftw! Your posting privileges have now been suspended for 24 hours. |

Lt Silver
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Good'eye
Originally by: Verone
Pretty pointless bringing this thread up when it's TWO YEARS OLD.
ffs. grow a brain, the mods have got better things to do i'm sure.
I love the babeh in ur siggy, hes all cute and cuddleh and wuvvable ;.; i just wanna hug em till his nose bleeds
whatr he saID
I Do Not Run From Conflict, I Simply ADVANCE In The Other Direction |

SengH
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:43:00 -
[58]
lol at thread necromancy
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Mace Blackhammer
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:44:00 -
[59]
Wtf it with the 2yr old thread bumpage?
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Lt Silver
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Posted - 2005.09.07 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mace Blackhammer Wtf it with the 2yr old thread bumpage?
look shut up, we are bumpage kings now stfu
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