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SleekOperator
Gallente
StoneDogS
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Posted - 2009.07.12 06:29:00 -
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Anyone knows a site to check T2 bpc prices?
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.07.12 06:55:00 -
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Don't think there's a site for it as prices of T2 BPC varies widely depending on invention success and datacore price.
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Kennys Zombie
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Posted - 2009.07.12 15:26:00 -
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Just do basic math. Take the build cost of whatever the BPC makes, subtract that from the cost of that item on the market, and subtract some from that for the builder's profit, and you have what the BPC is worth per run.
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.07.12 16:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Kennys Zombie
Just do basic math. Take the build cost of whatever the BPC makes, subtract that from the cost of that item on the market, and subtract some from that for the builder's profit, and you have what the BPC is worth per run.
Worse pricing model EVER!
But it explains why I see some pricing of T2 invented BPCs are stupidly priced.
A much better pricing model is - take how much it cost YOU to invent, and add a good margin. I see BPCs out there priced at 3000% above invention cost including failure rate, leaving literally 5% margin between manufacturing cost and sales price.
This is why I got into invention, I USE to buy T2 BPCs, not anymore I do it myself and save a FORTUNE, All your advocating is a MASSIVE decrease in sales as people start inventing to build themselves.
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Kennys Zombie
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Posted - 2009.07.12 16:09:00 -
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5% sounds about right for right-click-->build. If you want to make isk, then train a couple more skills and do the invention yourself.
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Clurk Brodon
Yog-Sothoth Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.12 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kennys Zombie
5% sounds about right for right-click-->build.
If we're speaking T1, yes. If we're speaking T2 BPC, it's ridiculous. If you don't know why, you can't understand the real issue.
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Kennys Zombie
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Posted - 2009.07.12 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Clurk Brodon
Originally by: Kennys Zombie
5% sounds about right for right-click-->build.
If we're speaking T1, yes. If we're speaking T2 BPC, it's ridiculous. If you don't know why, you can't understand the real issue.
I do inventing and building myself.
The real difference between doing the inventing yourself is what? Electronics Upgrades V, and having a POS to do copying in. You then have to keep track of the market shifts on prices of T2 mins, or youll lose isk fast from the time you start copying prints to the time the finished products hit the market.
If you are purchasing BPCs you are likelly wanting to do something other than sell the product in jita anyways. People that make the T2 BPCs have almost no more skills required to make the items off the BPCs, (in many cases for mods the quantities of materials required doesnt even require training PE V to get 0 waste) so having too much profit in that means they will just build it themselves.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2009.07.12 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 12/07/2009 17:34:06
Use this site for calculation the chance and then divide the costs for the job (cores, decryptor, meta item, T1 BPC) by this chance and you got the average price of a T2 BPC.
I'm sorry.. there is no easier method. You have to do the work..
Only method to speed this up, is to use excel and rebuilt the math there..
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Clurk Brodon
Yog-Sothoth Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.12 18:53:00 -
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1 Cap Recharger II invention job in a POS: 75 minutes. Double it for 50% success rate.
Manufacturing 10 Cap Recharger II @PE-4 in a station: 1060 minutes. With the added fun of managing 18-hours production cycles.
There's a reason the T2 BPC market is practically nonexistent.
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.07.12 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Clurk Brodon
There's a reason the T2 BPC market is practically nonexistent.
If they are using Kennys model then that's a major contributing factor 
I checked a heap of stuff and I couldn't believe how high people are pricing BPCs, makes me wonder who actually buys them at that price.
Classic ones are ammo.. being sold for 6mil, and it was like Kennys model, 7% margin if you purchased the BPC and build and sold at Jita.. but that 7% represented 3mil... WHO spends 6mil to make 3mil profit, when they could spend 1mil and make 8mil profit for exactly the same thing just like 2hours longer to invent the BPC.
Lets see, 50% cash flow, vs 800% cash flow for just 2 hours more work. No wonder T2 BPC sales don't exist.
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