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Mernor Akat
Gallente
SOLIS inc
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Posted - 2009.07.12 21:56:00 -
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I'm tryign to get perfect refine, just for Veldspar atm but eventually for other ores. What skills do I need and to what level?
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Rothgar Detris
The Society of Innovation
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Posted - 2009.07.12 22:14:00 -
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To get perfect refine actually requires 2 different things: Standings and skills.
On the skill side, you will want the Ore processing to lvl 4, Refining to 4 or 5, and Refining Effeciancy to 3 or 4. This should leave no wasted ore in a normal 50% reprocessing station.
However, for perfect refining, you need a station or POS with at least a 40% Reprocessing (with 4-5 in all relevant skills), and a standing of 6.67 of better (in the case of NPC/faction corp stations). This removes taxes so you receive the full amount of ore reprocessed. You can even achieve perfect refining in a 35% station, but you do need all skills to V plus a refining implant (can't rememberwhich one).
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Zxenis
Caldari
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:18:00 -
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there are also refining implants that give a few % reduction to waste, don't know what they are off hand but refining in 0.0 space, they are very helpful. dont need that last bit of processing to 5 in upgraded stations.
If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared.
Niccolo Machiavelli (1469 - 1527)
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Zxenis
Caldari
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:19:00 -
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um damn, wheres the edit button now, didn't see him mention implants, o well, hehe
If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared.
Niccolo Machiavelli (1469 - 1527)
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.13 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 13/07/2009 17:36:46
Refining: 2% per level
Refinery Efficiency: 4% per level
Then there are all the ore skills, ice processing skill, and scrap metal skill which are all 5% per level.
Yield = <station facitilites base> + <reprocessing base> * (1 + Refining * 0.02) * (1 + Refinery Efficiency * 0.04) * (1 + Material * 0.05)
Reprocessing base is 37.5%
At a 50% base facilities station with Refining 5 and Refinery Efficiency 4 and no material skill, you get 97.85%, so just 1 point in the material or a 3% implant will put you over the top for a perfect yield.
At a 50% base facilities station with Refining 5 and Refinery Efficiency 5 and no material skill, you get 99.5%, so a 1% implant will put you over the top for a perfect yield.
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Maurice MerleauPonty
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Posted - 2009.09.30 18:41:00 -
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Hello I have a further question about this skill - for the approx 6 % standing that also benefits your refining perfection, is that percentage for the individual, the corp, or either?
if our corp has 7% standing with Caldari Navy, but an industrialist member of the corp is assigned all the refining duties, but that member has done no missions with caldari navy, does that char get the benefits of the corp standings applied to his efficiency?
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SeismicForce
Terra Incognita
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.09.30 20:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Maurice MerleauPonty
Hello I have a further question about this skill - for the approx 6 % standing that also benefits your refining perfection, is that percentage for the individual, the corp, or either?
if our corp has 7% standing with Caldari Navy, but an industrialist member of the corp is assigned all the refining duties, but that member has done no missions with caldari navy, does that char get the benefits of the corp standings applied to his efficiency?
Only the personal standings of the person doing the refining matters, corp standings won't help.
Originally by: Allisie
In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.30 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Maurice MerleauPonty
Hello I have a further question about this skill - for the approx 6 % standing that also benefits your refining perfection, is that percentage for the individual, the corp, or either?
It is personal your standing with the corp owning the station.
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if our corp has 7% standing with Caldari Navy, but an industrialist member of the corp is assigned all the refining duties, but that member has done no missions with caldari navy, does that char get the benefits of the corp standings applied to his efficiency?
Nope.
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Lexander Morinex
Caldari
LDD Investments
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Posted - 2009.09.30 21:40:00 -
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One thing commonly ignored in the yield calculation is the use of implants.
- Lexander Morinex
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ThePhoniex
Amarr
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.10.01 04:29:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1020825
read that mining guild.. it has a chart that tells you the each exact skills and what they get you at every possible station..
also to get refining eff.. you need refining 5... sux..
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.10.01 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lexander Morinex
One thing commonly ignored in the yield calculation is the use of implants.
I've updated the formula above.
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