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Peng Wu	Posted - 2009.07.13 07:18:00 - [1] Hi I'm still quite noobish at eve so please forgive me in case I talk some nonsense :) I got a problem with my Onyx passive shield tank. It seems like I cant get it above 213 hp/s. I tried those loadouts and variations of it: http://ups.evekb.de/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2031 http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/6175-Fleet-Onyx.html thats my engineering skills EM Shield Compensation III Energy Emission Systems I Energy Grid Upgrades V Energy Management III Energy Pulse Weapons IV Energy Systems Operation IV Engineering V Explosive Shield Compensation III Kinetic Shield Compensation III Shield Compensation II Shield Emission Systems (none) Shield Management V Shield Operation V Shield Upgrades IV Tactical Shield Manipulation IV Thermic Shield Compensation II I would like to get about 600 to a 1000 in a fleet. is that possible? I mean I try everything loadout wise in EFT and nothing gets it higher than that, even with everything level V skills. Any help would be great :)
Eseay	Posted - 2009.07.13 07:24:00 - [2] this is what you want for 0.0 if you want low sec, drop tank for sensor boosters [Onyx, Fleet] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Warp Disruption Field Generator I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Bud Johnson Capital Ships Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.13 07:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Eseay Edited by: Eseay on 13/07/2009 07:31:34 this is what you want for 0.0 if you want low sec, drop tank for sensor boosters [Onyx, Fleet] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Warp Disruption Field Generator I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I I find your lack of cloak disturbing.
Peng Wu	Posted - 2009.07.13 07:40:00 - [4] thanks Eseay. I just tied this loadout in EFT and it tells me my peak self re-charge is 65hp/s and re-charge time is 718sec. am interpreting those numbers wrong, or are they really as bad?
Eseay	Posted - 2009.07.13 07:49:00 - [5] well, if number is all you want, heres a fail fit that should please you. you will die in this, 100% guarenteed if you want to survive, you need a mwd and buffe [Onyx, Fail] Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Warp Disruption Field Generator I, Focused Warp Disruption Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I 170.25 shield second at peak... remember that you wont be at your peak regen very long
Brayiel Perkone	Posted - 2009.07.13 07:50:00 - [6] Originally by: Peng Wu thanks Eseay. I just tied this loadout in EFT and it tells me my peak self re-charge is 65hp/s and re-charge time is 718sec. am interpreting those numbers wrong, or are they really as bad? You don't want large passive recharge values on PvP ships for the most part. Having a very fast recharging shield is good in missions where you have limited damage types and amount coming at you, in PvP you want a big buffer. In PvP a recharge setup will generally die horribly, you'll get your shields taken down before you can rely on the peak recharge. The only way is to have such a large buffer that they either stop shooting you to focus on other targets or to survive long enough for your friends to kill the enemy.
Bud Johnson Capital Ships Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.13 07:56:00 - [7] Originally by: Peng Wu thanks Eseay. I just tied this loadout in EFT and it tells me my peak self re-charge is 65hp/s and re-charge time is 718sec. am interpreting those numbers wrong, or are they really as bad? A 0.0 onyx is buffer fit(i don't know if low sec fits are any different). if the fleet/caps in your bubble primary you you are better off with a huge buffer. What do your shield tank skills look like? i just popped his fit into EFT and on my char i get almost 400 peak recharge and 114k ehp.
Eseay	Posted - 2009.07.13 08:17:00 - [8] the broadsword does the whole lol thing much better :P lolz
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.13 10:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Peng Wu thanks Eseay. I just tied this loadout in EFT and it tells me my peak self re-charge is 65hp/s and re-charge time is 718sec. am interpreting those numbers wrong, or are they really as bad? Make sure that you're not using that lame "no skills" guy...
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.07.13 10:26:00 - [10] Originally by: Bud Johnson Edited by: Bud Johnson on 13/07/2009 08:08:21 Edited by: Bud Johnson on 13/07/2009 08:06:49 Originally by: Peng Wu thanks Eseay. I just tied this loadout in EFT and it tells me my peak self re-charge is 65hp/s and re-charge time is 718sec. am interpreting those numbers wrong, or are they really as bad? A 0.0 onyx is buffer fit(i don't know if low sec fits are any different). if the fleet/caps in your bubble primary you you are better off with a huge buffer. What do your shield tank skills look like? i just popped his fit into EFT and on my char i get almost 400 peak recharge and 114k ehp. edit for the super ballsy, ~1000 shield per second and 313k ehp with my skills (lowest resist is 90.5%). it comes with the added advantage of making whoever pops you really happy. [Onyx, lol] Damage Control II Cormack's Modified Power Diagnostic System Cormack's Modified Power Diagnostic System Cormack's Modified Power Diagnostic System Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender Luther Veron's Modified Invulnerability Field Luther Veron's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Photon Scattering Field Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Warp Disruption Field Generator I, Focused Warp Disruption Core Defence Field Extender II Core Defence Field Extender II Use DG launchers you cheapskate.
Dreadmuppet Four	Posted - 2009.07.13 10:51:00 - [11] broadsword still does the bling setup better [Broadsword, New Setup 2] Cormack's Modified Power Diagnostic System Cormack's Modified Power Diagnostic System Cormack's Modified Power Diagnostic System Damage Control II Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender Luther Veron's Modified Invulnerability Field Luther Veron's Modified Invulnerability Field Luther Veron's Modified Invulnerability Field Warp Disruption Field Generator I Domination 425mm Autocannon, Republic Fleet EMP M Domination 425mm Autocannon, Republic Fleet EMP M Domination 425mm Autocannon, Republic Fleet EMP M Domination 425mm Autocannon, Republic Fleet EMP M Domination 425mm Autocannon, Republic Fleet EMP M Core Defence Field Extender II Core Defence Field Extender II damn, why is there no deadspace damage control

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