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Sispur
Minmatar
Brutor Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.07.13 22:30:00 -
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It's a bit expensive, but what do you think about this ship able to probe and kill and loot?
[Legion, Explorer]
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Damage Control II
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Large Capacitor Battery II
Analyzer II
Codebreaker II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam I
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Deep Space Scanner Probe I
Capacitor Control Circuit II
Capacitor Control Circuit II
Anti-EM Pump II
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Infiltrator II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Vespa II x5
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Ohh Yeah
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Posted - 2009.07.13 23:25:00 -
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Oh my God where do you hang out? I'd love to go into a WH with you sometime.
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AstroPhobic
Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2009.07.13 23:54:00 -
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Where's the damage? Are you going to tank some frigate rats to death?
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.13 23:57:00 -
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lol. I think a ranis outganks that.
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Sispur
Minmatar
Brutor Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:34:00 -
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Well, it has 200 DPS from drones, as the subsystm gives +10% drone dmg per level as well as a bandwith of 50 with a 200m^3 drone bay; guns do an additional 100 DPS. It can tank 1,200 DPS so I'm sure you don't NEED those expensive tanking mods.
The question is whether it can kill NPCs in lvl1 and lvl2 WH space, and I think it can, that's all.
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Sispur
Minmatar
Brutor Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Marcus Druallis
lol. I think a ranis outganks that.
And that ranis can also probe and analyze, and hack and salvage, and tank sleepers when webbed?
Read post, or at least the title to understand the purpose fo the ship, before wasting your time posting useless information.
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Vecila
Live and Learn Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 17:54:00 -
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Recommend reading the thread afew below this one. Answers all your questions and is far less painful.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:25:00 -
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With a little EFT-Warrioring, I came to this fit:
[Legion, Assault Explorer]
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Codebreaker II
Analyzer II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Salvager II
Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Using missiles because the Lasers will have issues with tracking the frigates and I can't find a fourth medium slot for a web without crippling one thing or another. The 1600mm plate is decoration mostly as at least class 1 and 2 sleepers don't alpha for all that much from what I've seen. Might switch it for another AN EANM.
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:51:00 -
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You will be able to tank full aggro and probably kill all npcs in a class 1/2. With 1200 dps tanked you can probably also tank a class 3.
From my experience the sleepers don't rep/rr much at all. They do have a lot of hp but thats it for the most part. But even if you can wear them down this may turn out to be rather slow and painful. Also sleepers neut so i don't know if that would pose a problem with your cap stability.
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Originally by: Jasper Dark
I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sispur
Originally by: Marcus Druallis
lol. I think a ranis outganks that.
And that ranis can also probe and analyze, and hack and salvage, and tank sleepers when webbed?
Read post, or at least the title to understand the purpose fo the ship, before wasting your time posting useless information.
Down boy. The point is you could easily get more damage out of a legion while preserving the functionality. I believe this is the other thread referred to. Just take the setup there and deadspace it.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke!
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Magnus Castaneus
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:56:00 -
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your cap... it will be gone
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CAPSLOCKBROKE
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: CAPSLOCKBROKE on 14/07/2009 19:19:24
Edited by: CAPSLOCKBROKE on 14/07/2009 19:18:58
Taking the Drone approach isn't a bad one for ratting, but for wormholes your going to be in some trouble. Sleepers LOVE to eat drones like a fat kid and candy, so your going to lose a good chunk of change from your drones dying.
The thread everyone is referring to is mine, and the recommended fitting I got seems perfect imo.
Your approach would work great also, if not for the fact that sleepers will target your drones and bring them down very quickly, even the faster tech II's.
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CAPSLOCKBROKE
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:23:00 -
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I will say this though. Sleepers never heal there armor, have no shields, and only remote rep each others armor in higher class wormholes. So even if your drones die, and your dps sucks, with that setup you most likely would still win assuming you can stay cap stable. If you can't though, be warned that sleepers will web you, warp scramble you, and possibly even pod you if you fail. Running is not usually an option, however I'm not positive but I don't believe they will warp scramble you until class 3's.
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heiway
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:33:00 -
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in my opinion T3 really shine in pve in WH space.
me and my friends use a legion, a loki, and some proteus.
each single type is able to solo class 1-2 and 3 very slowly.
i would recommend t3 for class 1-2 solo or 2-4 mann gang for class 1-4.
i tested double mar and single + buffer, and buffer performs much better.
also i would advce u to fit 1 ecm to play around with sleepers and be prepared for other situations.
this is my 3 man and sometimes solo WH setup :
[Legion, WL : the fitting]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Centum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corelum C-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Dread Guristas ECM Multispectral Jammer
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
Cap Recharger II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Nanobot Accelerator I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Hammerhead II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
Warrior II x11
Valkyrie II x6
for class 3+4 a marauder +2-3 t3 are really great.
(....and expensive, so don't fly, what you can't afford to loose)
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Iria Ahrens
Amarr
101st Space Marine Force
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.07.14 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sispur
It's a bit expensive, but what do you think about this ship able to probe and kill and loot?
[Legion, Explorer]
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Damage Control II
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Large Capacitor Battery II
Analyzer II
Codebreaker II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam I
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Deep Space Scanner Probe I
Capacitor Control Circuit II
Capacitor Control Circuit II
Anti-EM Pump II
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Infiltrator II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Vespa II x5
I was pretty much thinking along the same lines for a Legion for the same purpose: wormhole exploration. Since I prefer drones I was following very closely in your footsteps, but sleepers hate drones, so I'm not sure a drone Legion would be so useful.
I hope a strategy becomes available to use drones effectively against sleepers becomes available. I understand the desire by devs to avaid people afk ratting, missioning, etc, but voiding the efficacy of a good weapon system is going a bit too far I feel.
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Nobody expects the Amarr Inquisition!
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GeneralDisarray 1
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Posted - 2009.07.15 01:01:00 -
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dont rely on drone DPS. WH has crazy drone aggro. Also how much was this ship in total? like 2bil?
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