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Angor KAHONAS	Posted - 2009.07.14 23:38:00 - [31] Relativly cheap wormhole pvp setup, use in a small fleet with a backup logistics (if you think u need it). [Proteus, Arazu's Dirty Sister Buffer Tackler] Reactor Control Unit II Armor Explosive Hardener II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Warp Disruptor Heavy Ion Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Stribog Caldari Blackwater USA Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.15 09:47:00 - [32] Edited by: Stribog on 15/07/2009 09:53:27 Just for fun 333k EHP 784 DPS 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Gallente Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Centus C-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Amarr Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Stasis Webifier True Sansha Warp Scrambler Heavy Electron Blaster II,Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II,Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II,Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II,Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II,Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II,Void M Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Drones_Active=Valkyrie II,5 Implant_Active=Slave Alpha Implant_Active=Slave Beta Implant_Active=Slave Gamma Implant_Active=Slave Delta Implant_Active=Slave Epsilon Implant_Active=Slave Omega Implant_Active=Hardwiring - Zainou 'Deadeye' ZGM1000 Implant_Active=Hardwiring - Eifyr and Co 'Gunslinger' CX-2 Implant_Active=Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Noble' ZET5000 290EHP if you want to go cheaper with a T2 explosive and T1 trimarks
Ivana Drake Caldari Liberi Fatalius Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.16 17:20:00 - [33] Only really good Proteus setup I've seen so far is the one with a ridiculous buffer (400K if you spend a little, 600k if you spend a lot) that does most of it's damage with drones. I think DHB Wildcat used one very much like it. It sucks with an Active tank though so if you're sticking 2 reppers on it it's just going to drop like a stone. It's made for buffer.
Tippia Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.07.16 17:44:00 - [34] Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Originally by: battlebot1077 Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Khanid Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Khanid Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Reactive Membrane […] Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M […] Auxiliary Nano Pump I […] this setup will give you about 250 dps with a 500+ omnitank. You spent how many billions for a measly 250 dps and 500 tank? Really? I have to agree with this. Now, I can certainly see the "it's fun" line of argument, but the question remains: how on earth did you manage to get so litte out of all that stuff? You're outdamaged and outtanked by a standard T2-Fit Myrm — even a Blasterazu will outperform what you claim you've built. How?! Are you sure you're reading EFT right? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Khorian Gallente Excidium.	Posted - 2009.07.16 17:56:00 - [35] [Proteus, New Setup 1] Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Stasis Webifier Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Ancillary Current Router II Ancillary Current Router I Capacitor Control Circuit II Proteus Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Oh god lol
Absolom Hues Gallente SoE Roughriders Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.07.16 18:05:00 - [36] If you want an EFT warrior fit: [Proteus, Active Armor] Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Damage Control II Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Domination Warp Disruptor Drone Navigation Computer I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Auxiliary Nano Pump II Auxiliary Nano Pump II Anti-Thermic Pump II Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Proteus Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 ___ "Thats all I gots to say about that"
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.16 18:06:00 - [37] Originally by: Khorian Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner No. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Jane Indy	Posted - 2009.07.16 19:48:00 - [38] Edited by: Jane Indy on 16/07/2009 19:51:47 Ehh i think they should buff proteus drone mods a little so it can fly 5 heavies/sentries at a time, now THAT qould be nice!
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.16 20:56:00 - [39] Originally by: Jane Indy Edited by: Jane Indy on 16/07/2009 19:51:47 Ehh i think they should buff proteus drone mods a little so it can fly 5 heavies/sentries at a time, now THAT qould be nice! It would be, but it's not going to happen because it would obsolete the ishtar. It actually wouldn't, because the proteus lacks mids but ccp still won't do it. Originally by: CCP Tuxford Now the op looks like a weirdo that can't read kekekeke! inb4 stealth edit
Hatsumi Kobayashi Caldari Corporation 12345 Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.07.17 04:26:00 - [40] Originally by: Benco97 Today I am wearing blue underwear, they perform exactly the same as my white underwear but I think they came in a pack of three as opposed to the white which came in a pack of five for the same price. Should I expect better performance from the blue ones? No, I just feel like wearing blue sometimes. Blue underwear actually perform slightly better in case of a wet one. ______
Jane Indy	Posted - 2009.07.17 05:45:00 - [41] Well i don't really see the problem in that Brcause it allready completely obsoletes the Deimos. and besides even at 300m isk it should be better.
Angel Mortalitas Amarr Star Phukkers Incorporated	Posted - 2009.07.17 07:06:00 - [42] Originally by: Khorian [Proteus, New Setup 1] Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Stasis Webifier Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I Ancillary Current Router II Ancillary Current Router I Capacitor Control Circuit II Proteus Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Oh god lol Oh god lol is right!! What exactly are you trying to achieve here? That over-size AB gives you the agility of a carrier so obviously you are not perma-running it at your optimal. A 10Mn MWD II would serve you better to get you to your optimal and you wouldn't need those expensive grid rigs. A tracking disruptor? TD is leaving you with no cap defence, my Sentinel could put your cap down in 30 secs with no way for you to recover. No cap = no tank, no guns, no tackle.....one very expensive sitting duck.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2009.07.17 07:16:00 - [43] Far be it from me to defend crappy setups, but I guess the idea behind a 100mn AB could be to enable you not only to get in range, but to gtfo when needed, where a scrambled MWD will do nothing. Don't think I'd fit one though.
Mardris Fol	Posted - 2009.07.17 16:28:00 - [44] Edited by: Mardris Fol on 17/07/2009 16:31:28 Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Originally by: Jane Indy Edited by: Jane Indy on 16/07/2009 19:51:47 Ehh i think they should buff proteus drone mods a little so it can fly 5 heavies/sentries at a time, now THAT qould be nice! It would be, but it's not going to happen because it would obsolete the ishtar. It actually wouldn't, because the proteus lacks mids but ccp still won't do it. Would this be more so than the Ishtar vs the Vexor? It's certainly much less so than it already is with Proteus vs Deimos. As a Gallente who was encouraged down the drones route you get to the point where there is very little to move on to after the Ishkur/Ishtar/Domi without effectively ditching the drone skills and retraining very heavily into hybrids. The trouble is not that the Proteus is a little bit weaker, it's 20% weaker with heavies/sentries, which is a lot to claw back. Personally, I'd rather they dropped a turret if it meant they could add another 25Mbps to the drone bandwidth. It seems the Proteus's best attribute is its huge potential to buffer tank. This makes it an interesting choice for PvP but being liable to become a bit of a trophy target may not make it the best choice. Outside of PvP it seems that it could perform a number of roles but none of them very well nor with a great capbility to multi-role. As you say, the 3 mid-slots you get in 'drone' configurations certainly limit flexibility. One of those is probably going to be an AB/MW or you may as well fly a BS. [edit - formatting]
SwindonBadger 0utbreak KrautbreaK	Posted - 2009.07.17 17:22:00 - [45] Had one fitted for lev4s, very very nice in conjection with bs alt, I will end up swithing subs for pvpfitting, but currently unheated I can get 90 + resits all rond and one rep perma running (rests per level, cap and turret damage + tractor beem speed range, or scifc resits and reel nice dps for a cruiser. U can go for 2 rps and irons + small nos, small cap injector but u would need power grid per level to get good rail fitting Eat Them all, let the digestion sort em out
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.07.17 22:32:00 - [46] Originally by: battlebot1077 Edited by: battlebot1077 on 14/07/2009 17:27:43 yeah I did. Why do people put spinners on their cars? plus we make all of our t3 stuff so this setup only cost me a couple hundred mil Your time isn't free right? Mining the minerals to build your own ship doesn't make it free. You could have taken those minerals and sold them. Likewise, building your own T3 ship doesn't make it free - all the components you put together to have one could have been sold. You could have built the ship and sold it. That's what it costs to fly. Its not dumb to fly an expensive ship - its fun. Just make sure its more fun than being able to buy a fleet of T2/T1 ships for the same investment. Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You
Enden Assulu Caldari Blood Money Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.18 03:17:00 - [47] Buffer fit is defiantly the way to go. Click the image!
Angor KAHONAS	Posted - 2009.07.18 03:46:00 - [48] Edited by: Angor on 18/07/2009 03:48:58 [Proteus, Naughty Hotdrop] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Centus C-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II True Sansha Warp Disruptor True Sansha Warp Scrambler Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Cynosural Field Generator I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors With a full set of slaves and a zet5000 i get 644,864 effective. Stupidly expensive but bah... _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Qui Shon	Posted - 2009.07.18 11:05:00 - [49] Get an Akemon while you're at it, if that's your budget.
Enden Assulu Caldari Blood Money Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.18 14:32:00 - [50] Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Small blasters, you pillock. Click the image!
Angor KAHONAS	Posted - 2009.07.18 14:56:00 - [51] Originally by: Enden Assulu Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Small blasters, you pillock. The dps difference between med electrons and light nutrons is like 40dps. The setup is not for damage, which is why its called hotdrop and has a cyno gen fitted. Might as well put smart bombs on... _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
arbiter reformed Minmatar Annihilate.	Posted - 2009.07.18 16:33:00 - [52] youre all doing it wrong you want the drone offensive sub so you can carry 2xogre 2 hammer 1 hob, you can then put a few blasters and nos in the highs and keep full lowslot tank without loosing dps, ofc you want the scram sub too that thing rocks (domi scram ftw) Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to Eve Online. All content must be in good taste.Applebabe
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles	Posted - 2009.07.18 16:48:00 - [53] Impossible to probe out (with gang bonuses active + information warfare mindlink), makes the rest of your fleet much harder to probe out, does everything a covert ops can do, and warps out of bubbles while cloaked: [Proteus, CS, unprobeable] Magnetometric Backup Array II Magnetometric Backup Array II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Command Processor I Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Information Warfare Link - Sensor Integrity Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Proteus Defensive - Warfare Processor Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Proteus Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Proteus Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Proteus Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier --- 34.4:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule
Angor KAHONAS	Posted - 2009.07.18 17:35:00 - [54] I dont get this "unprobable" thing, ive seen it on a few threads claiming you cant be probed. Is this based on sig radius or sensor strenght because you can probe out pods and drones so why not ships with warfare links? _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2009.07.18 17:45:00 - [55] Originally by: Angor I dont get this "unprobable" thing, ive seen it on a few threads claiming you cant be probed. Is this based on sig radius or sensor strenght because you can probe out pods and drones so why not ships with warfare links? If you can get your sig radius/sensor strength ratio to above a certain limit, you can make yourself impossible to probe out. Drones have a high radius/low sensor strength, and the same for pods, where as the fit above is very high sensor strength and low sig radius. ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (also with a review of the Muninn!)
Mystical Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.18 18:41:00 - [56] Originally by: Morgan La'Chance Refit with an interdiction nullifier and haul stuff through 0.0. That's the only use. They aren't rich mans ships, they are ships for ppl who want to keep training subsystems lvl 5 all the time and stall their characters. T3 crusiers are only usefull when subsystems are at lvl5, at lvl4 they are just like t2.
Letifer Deus Caldari Corporation 12345 Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.07.18 20:30:00 - [57] We run a lot of armor tanked BC gangs (with logistics) in MT. This would probably be the best place to take a proteus (as far as gangs go), whereas someting such as a loki or tengu would be very well suited for a nano hac gang (much higher speed/agility and shield tanked). I'm at work so I don't have the setup on me, but with my implants (slaves) the setup I came up with with had about 250K EHP and 900 dps (overloaded). I would say that is a very clear increase over a Deimos. As an ishtar replacement, unfortuantely, it fails simply because the drone sub is somewhat lacking. Is it worth the current cost of a fully fitted T3 cruiser? That's up to you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!"

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