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Ekawar Gehuara
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:26:00 -
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well I for one is getting extremely tired of griefers doing the dock/undock game, one way this could be marginalised would be to enforce a cost for docking while you are flagged with an aggression timer (pvp not pve) nothing big, just lets say, 1.000.000 isk per minute left of your current timer. I would prefer to see this enforced only in highsec, perhaps even in low sec.
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Paul Clavet
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:36:00 -
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What exactly is it that you are complaining about? Who has forced you to play station games that you did not willingly play?
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente
TarNec
New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2009.07.14 18:44:00 -
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Supported!
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Coaster DP
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:09:00 -
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The dock/undock games are one of the worst combat features of Eve. The idea of an agro timer docking fee is fine with me but imo does not go far enough. The tactic stinks and Eve would be a better game if the game mechanics were changed in such a way as to do away with it.
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Paul Clavet
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.07.14 19:20:00 -
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Or you guys could, like, not fight on stations.
Anyone who gets frustrated camping someone who docks and undocks repeatedly has nobody but themselves to blame. Go outside.
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Nemiron
Amarr
Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2009.07.14 20:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Ekawar Gehuara
well I for one is getting extremely tired of griefers doing the dock/undock game, one way this could be marginalised would be to enforce a cost for docking while you are flagged with an aggression timer (pvp not pve) nothing big, just lets say, 1.000.000 isk per minute left of your current timer. I would prefer to see this enforced only in highsec, perhaps even in low sec.
Might be an option. It would not stop, but limit the docking games to some extend. The one undocking still has (in most situations) the option to go see whats happening outside and dock up again, but it would hurt him after some time.
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Blackcamper
Gallente
Corax.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ekawar Gehuara
well I for one is getting extremely tired of griefers doing the dock/undock game, one way this could be marginalised would be to enforce a cost for docking while you are flagged with an aggression timer (pvp not pve) nothing big, just lets say, 1.000.000 isk per minute left of your current timer. I would prefer to see this enforced only in highsec, perhaps even in low sec.
I think the redock timer must be longer. like 4 min.. and not the 1 min that is is now..
and make it 10 mil per min..
But he will stil have that channce to undock and have a look and then dock after the 30 sec.. but if he oppen fire he have a 4 min redock time..
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Ekawar Gehuara
Corax.
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Posted - 2009.07.14 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ekawar Gehuara on 14/07/2009 21:54:12
Originally by: Paul Clavet
Or you guys could, like, not fight on stations.
Anyone who gets frustrated camping someone who docks and undocks repeatedly has nobody but themselves to blame. Go outside.
lets face it in empire it's almost impossible not to end up in a scenario where one or the other part of the war is in a station. I don't have a problem with people undocking then redocking to see if someone is there.
what I have a problem with is when people often the agressors (in empire at least) find thier targets willing to fight back, and start camping stations, when someone then iether undocks to fight them or comes at them to break the camp, the fight goes on till someone starts to be at risk of loosing thier ship, they deagress, wait the x seconds and dock up, rep thier ship and undocks again with no penalty. that or the entire flock simply docks up.
This is where I think the 1 mill per minute of agrro timer left should come into play, if you agress someone at a station you should not no matter what side your on have the opertunity to simply escape whats comming to you without paying a penalty for it, if you wanted PvP in the first place, pay the price for doing it.
yes I know the same thing could be said about fights near gates, but it's not the same, at gates you might jump the system, but you can still be hunted down or at least you will have to work on escaping from your targets or those that have decided to attack you.
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hmmv50cal
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Posted - 2009.07.14 22:13:00 -
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I agree 100%. Eka and I have fought in the same war where this has happened the duration of the war(s), which, if counted form the beginning lasted several months.
The dock/undock games need to stop, especially when the aggressors are the ones doing it.
Another thing that needs to be addressed is neutral RR ships, also an issue of those wars. I'll start my own topic with that one...
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Nemiron
Amarr
Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2009.07.14 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: hmmv50cal
Another thing that needs to be addressed is neutral RR ships, also an issue of those wars. I'll start my own topic with that one...
That would just need an agression timer like everything else, I guess. No rational reason to not stopping them from jumping/docking, imho. Same should apply for gangmods.
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SilverPladdin
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Posted - 2009.07.14 23:19:00 -
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Supported fully!
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Ekawar Gehuara
Corax.
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Posted - 2009.07.15 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: hmmv50cal
The dock/undock games need to stop, especially when the aggressors are the ones doing it.
it would be silly to expect that dock/undock should be stopped completely, while we may hate it or not, it's still a valid tactic, it's annoying as hell though, I am by no way suggesting that it should be completely denied, just suggesting that it should come with a price tag attached. if we keep it in the spirit of the game, where a war in empire is basicly an action sanctioned by CONCORD secured by a hefty bribe or "donation" docking up while having a pvp aggresion timer could be considered in the same way, you bribe the station owner to let you dock, this would in no way stop the tactic from being used, but repeated use of the tactic would become an issue of how many times you can afford to do it.
incidentaly it would also affect the neut RR's you want addressed.
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LUH 3472
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Posted - 2009.07.15 13:06:00 -
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make station windows or cameras ccp so we can look outside because everyhting ese is unreasonable
why the +++ ,excuse my language here, should we not be able to look out of the station with its 999999999 windows and know whats goin on, hello?
additionally increase the time you can redock again and then we are all setlled
aint this propsal great or aint it great
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