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![General Grey General Grey](/images/people/img13.png)
General Grey
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Posted - 2004.09.29 07:25:00 -
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Even though i am total newbie in this game i really hope CCP does nothing about this. Yes, i said nothing. Player conflicts like this are what makes the game unique. I dont like CCP would come up with some invisible barriel/rule to protect my corp from "bullies" (or better called enemy). It's my game to find solution for situation like this. Think it as player made mission.
Now what would have i done? Probably look allies from more experienced corps and might have even paid them some to war the "bully" corp. Tried to bargain cheaper deal to that corp to leave us alone and hope they live up with their promise. Do as Toshiro said and act as bait for some corp that is already war with them.
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![General Grey General Grey](/images/people/img12.png)
General Grey
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Posted - 2004.09.29 07:25:00 -
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Even though i am total newbie in this game i really hope CCP does nothing about this. Yes, i said nothing. Player conflicts like this are what makes the game unique. I dont like CCP would come up with some invisible barriel/rule to protect my corp from "bullies" (or better called enemy). It's my game to find solution for situation like this. Think it as player made mission.
Now what would have i done? Probably look allies from more experienced corps and might have even paid them some to war the "bully" corp. Tried to bargain cheaper deal to that corp to leave us alone and hope they live up with their promise. Do as Toshiro said and act as bait for some corp that is already war with them.
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![Ultravires Ultravires](/images/people/img8.png)
Ultravires
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:59:00 -
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yes, i consider players with less than 2m skill points and 2 months experience n00bs.
plus we didnt know that empire wasn't safe when at war - how n00bish do you want ?
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![Ultravires Ultravires](/images/people/img15.png)
Ultravires
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Posted - 2004.09.29 09:59:00 -
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yes, i consider players with less than 2m skill points and 2 months experience n00bs.
plus we didnt know that empire wasn't safe when at war - how n00bish do you want ?
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![Avon Avon](/images/people/img12.png)
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ultravires yes, i consider players with less than 2m skill points and 2 months experience n00bs.
plus we didnt know that empire wasn't safe when at war - how n00bish do you want ?
What you should have done is insure the battleship, and kit it for fighting.
When it gets killed (which will be quick with a n00b flying it), buy everyone Ospreys and go mining - or pay the the 100mil from the insurance.
edit: flames removed - Sherkaner ______________________________________________
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![Avon Avon](/images/people/img9.png)
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ultravires yes, i consider players with less than 2m skill points and 2 months experience n00bs.
plus we didnt know that empire wasn't safe when at war - how n00bish do you want ?
What you should have done is insure the battleship, and kit it for fighting.
When it gets killed (which will be quick with a n00b flying it), buy everyone Ospreys and go mining - or pay the the 100mil from the insurance.
edit: flames removed - Sherkaner ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
![Sherkaner Sherkaner](/images/people/img13.png)
Sherkaner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:41:00 -
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Hey, no newbie bashing in the newbie forum ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
Nothing against showing mistakes and explaining how to do it better, but please try to stay polite and helpful ![ugh](/images/icon_bear.gif)
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![Sherkaner Sherkaner](/images/people/img16.png)
Sherkaner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 10:41:00 -
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Hey, no newbie bashing in the newbie forum ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
Nothing against showing mistakes and explaining how to do it better, but please try to stay polite and helpful ![ugh](/images/icon_bear.gif)
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![Kali Ma Kali Ma](/images/people/img11.png)
Kali Ma
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:01:00 -
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Hi Ultravires A newb corp in my sec space recently found themselves in the same position and their solution to it was to recruit some of my experienced corp members into theirs to provide support and aid when mining.
I agree with the others when saying filing a petition would be good but unlikely to help you. |
![Kali Ma Kali Ma](/images/people/img11.png)
Kali Ma
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:01:00 -
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Hi Ultravires A newb corp in my sec space recently found themselves in the same position and their solution to it was to recruit some of my experienced corp members into theirs to provide support and aid when mining.
I agree with the others when saying filing a petition would be good but unlikely to help you. |
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![Kineticist Kineticist](/images/people/img7.png)
Kineticist
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:41:00 -
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It's interesting - players (solo) are completely safe in empire space, unless they join a corp. If they join a corp, pirates can come in, declare war, and pound the crap of them completely legally, right?
Hardly an incentive for us newbies to form or join corps... not to mention somewhat inconsistent (why would concord / governments protect non aggressor players but not non aggressor corps?)...
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![Kineticist Kineticist](/images/people/img3.png)
Kineticist
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:41:00 -
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It's interesting - players (solo) are completely safe in empire space, unless they join a corp. If they join a corp, pirates can come in, declare war, and pound the crap of them completely legally, right?
Hardly an incentive for us newbies to form or join corps... not to mention somewhat inconsistent (why would concord / governments protect non aggressor players but not non aggressor corps?)...
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![Aldin Aldari Aldin Aldari](/images/people/img11.png)
Aldin Aldari
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Posted - 2004.09.30 05:47:00 -
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If they limited wars in 0.5 - 1.0 wouldn't you get corps that hit and run from 0.5?
I am a serious noob so might be completely off track.
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![Aldin Aldari Aldin Aldari](/images/people/img2.png)
Aldin Aldari
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Posted - 2004.09.30 05:47:00 -
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If they limited wars in 0.5 - 1.0 wouldn't you get corps that hit and run from 0.5?
I am a serious noob so might be completely off track.
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![Ultravires Ultravires](/images/people/img6.png)
Ultravires
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Posted - 2004.09.30 08:17:00 -
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erm...if we had 100m ISK to ensure the battleship then we would have just paid the toll ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
you should have left his flames in, i didnt get to see them ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
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![Ultravires Ultravires](/images/people/img10.png)
Ultravires
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Posted - 2004.09.30 08:17:00 -
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erm...if we had 100m ISK to ensure the battleship then we would have just paid the toll ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
you should have left his flames in, i didnt get to see them ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
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![Ydyp Ieva Ydyp Ieva](/images/people/img5.png)
Ydyp Ieva
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Posted - 2004.09.30 08:19:00 -
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The war system as it is now is open to exploit, hope the shiva hit soon so if someone want to declare war on a corp they wage war on the whole allegiance. Best tactic is to start a newbie corp and form an allegiance with a veteran corps for protection. And when you are strong enough you can fight them of yourself.
What other reason does the alligiance have then if not for above.
PS: I'm just 3 weeks old to the game, still have to figure that one out. Basic flying and navigation is OK by now ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) __________________________________________________ "Time will reveal everything, but only once so be prepared." |
![Ydyp Ieva Ydyp Ieva](/images/people/img10.png)
Ydyp Ieva
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Posted - 2004.09.30 08:19:00 -
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The war system as it is now is open to exploit, hope the shiva hit soon so if someone want to declare war on a corp they wage war on the whole allegiance. Best tactic is to start a newbie corp and form an allegiance with a veteran corps for protection. And when you are strong enough you can fight them of yourself.
What other reason does the alligiance have then if not for above.
PS: I'm just 3 weeks old to the game, still have to figure that one out. Basic flying and navigation is OK by now ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif) __________________________________________________ "Time will reveal everything, but only once so be prepared." |
![Avon Avon](/images/people/img6.png)
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.30 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ultravires erm...if we had 100m ISK to ensure the battleship then we would have just paid the toll ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
you should have left his flames in, i didnt get to see them ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
Battleship insurance is around 33mil.
I posted after the moderation clearing up the fact that I had not flamed you, that the mod had misinterpreted what I said. Rather than admitting he was wrong he deleted that post. You'll get used to it around here. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
![Avon Avon](/images/people/img7.png)
Avon
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Posted - 2004.09.30 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ultravires erm...if we had 100m ISK to ensure the battleship then we would have just paid the toll ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
you should have left his flames in, i didnt get to see them ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
Battleship insurance is around 33mil.
I posted after the moderation clearing up the fact that I had not flamed you, that the mod had misinterpreted what I said. Rather than admitting he was wrong he deleted that post. You'll get used to it around here. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
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![Kalfu Kalfu](/images/people/img15.png)
Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.09.30 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ydyp Ieva The war system as it is now is open to exploit, hope the shiva hit soon so if someone want to declare war on a corp they wage war on the whole allegiance. Best tactic is to start a newbie corp and form an allegiance with a veteran corps for protection. And when you are strong enough you can fight them of yourself.
What other reason does the alligiance have then if not for above.
The problem there is if you form an alliance ("The Empire Miners Mutual Protection Group") someone will declare war on teh alliance just so they can occasionly come into empire and look for stuff to blow up, so you'll still be in a position where you need to constantly be on guard.
The alliance system is really geared towards making things easier for the big 0.0 combat alliances. Now if CONCORD started an NPC mutual protection alliance that PCs could join for protection in 0.5 up (but no ability to declare war) you might have something.
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![Kalfu Kalfu](/images/people/img11.png)
Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.09.30 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ydyp Ieva The war system as it is now is open to exploit, hope the shiva hit soon so if someone want to declare war on a corp they wage war on the whole allegiance. Best tactic is to start a newbie corp and form an allegiance with a veteran corps for protection. And when you are strong enough you can fight them of yourself.
What other reason does the alligiance have then if not for above.
The problem there is if you form an alliance ("The Empire Miners Mutual Protection Group") someone will declare war on teh alliance just so they can occasionly come into empire and look for stuff to blow up, so you'll still be in a position where you need to constantly be on guard.
The alliance system is really geared towards making things easier for the big 0.0 combat alliances. Now if CONCORD started an NPC mutual protection alliance that PCs could join for protection in 0.5 up (but no ability to declare war) you might have something.
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![Ultravires Ultravires](/images/people/img9.png)
Ultravires
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Posted - 2004.09.30 14:09:00 -
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yea sorry Avon - didnt read your post properly either. ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
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![Ultravires Ultravires](/images/people/img8.png)
Ultravires
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Posted - 2004.09.30 14:09:00 -
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yea sorry Avon - didnt read your post properly either. ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
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