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Matsujima
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Posted - 2009.07.16 01:39:00 -
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I am pretty new to probing Radar sites, but this seams wrong.
Buzzard x 4 skill + 2 rigs + astrometrc acquisition x 3 + sister core scanner probes + tetrahedron metod = 77% on a radar site in O.5 system. Barely got the name to show up - Local Guristas Backup Server.
Bug or some amazing site needing perfect probing setup?
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Marguerite Antiki
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:29:00 -
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Can jiggle the probes around to get a better hit, change ships, or up your skills more so that you can find it easier.
Up the following;
Astrometric Acquisition / Rank 5
Astrometric Pinpointing / Rank 5
Astrometric Rangefinding / Rank 8
Astrometrics / Rank 3
Other than that - the site isnt that hard for me to find.
Also, whats in the low slots and why ? ?
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Matsujima
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:43:00 -
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Those are gravimetric backups that increase sensor strenght and make the ship harder to be probed.
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Marguerite Antiki
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Matsujima
Those are gravimetric backups that increase sensor strenght and make the ship harder to be probed.
You sure it works like that ? I thought backups were to stop getting jammed from a ecm pilot ?
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Matsujima
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:51:00 -
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Yes I am sure, and yes their primery function is to be ECM-proof.
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Marguerite Antiki
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Posted - 2009.07.16 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Matsujima
Yes I am sure, and yes their primery function is to be ECM-proof.
You sure sure ?
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Velegion Trakker
Gallente
Phase Line Alpha
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Posted - 2009.07.16 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Matsujima
Those are gravimetric backups that increase sensor strenght and make the ship harder to be probed.
They increase the sensor strength of your SHIP (not probes) to help prevent your targeting from being jammed if your ship uses the gravimetric sensor type (which is Caldari I believe, correct me if I'm wrong)
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Matsujima
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Posted - 2009.07.16 03:31:00 -
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Target Signal Size = Target Signature Radius / Target Sensor Strength
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1065384/page/1
Anyone has something to say on the OP question?
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Velegion Trakker
Gallente
Phase Line Alpha
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Posted - 2009.07.16 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Marguerite Antiki
Can jiggle the probes around to get a better hit, change ships, or up your skills more so that you can find it easier.
Up the following;
Astrometric Acquisition / Rank 5
Astrometric Pinpointing / Rank 5
Astrometric Rangefinding / Rank 8
Astrometrics / Rank 3
Other than that - the site isnt that hard for me to find.
Also, whats in the low slots and why ? ?
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.07.16 04:15:00 -
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My guess is probe position is your problem. Understand this part of the current mechanic: the game measures an angle between one probe, the true position of the site, and a second probe. If that angle is less than 90¦, then the signal strength is reduced, and it does this 4 times. That yellow dot is not the true position of the site. That's the shown position of the site after deviation is figured in. If you use 4 probes in a perfect square, and the position of the site is not in the exact center, then at least one of those angles will be less than 90¦, and you can wind up with a signature you can't quite pinpoint.
What I do is take 3 probes and form an equilateral triangle. Take two, line the arrows up and move then directly to one side until the edge of one radius is just touching the center of the other. Now take the third probe and place it so the center is in the intersection of the two spheres formed by the first two probes. Place this formation so the dot is in the center, and move it a little above or below. Now place the fourth probe on top or on bottom. All angles will be greater than 90¦. If done correctly, all angles will be 120¦, and even deviation won't push it down to less than 90¦.
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Matsujima
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Posted - 2009.07.16 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: Matsujima on 16/07/2009 04:41:09
I did it a bit differently, but got the same shape with the dot in the middle.
Your way sounds easier though, I'll try it out. Thx
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Marguerite Antiki
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Posted - 2009.07.16 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Matsujima
Those are gravimetric backups that increase sensor strenght and make the ship harder to be probed.
You go into low sec often and do probing in there ? Hence the grav arrays ? Does it work well ?
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FlameGlow
Legio Octae
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.16 07:12:00 -
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I heard of this cool module that makes you impossible to probe out, it' called cloaking device or so I heard 
your probe placement sucks btw octahedron around signature works better and they are too far from signature
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Matsujima
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Posted - 2009.07.16 18:41:00 -
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@Marguerite Antikirobed. Can't be sure if I someone tryed to probe me yet. Haven't been on low sec exploration trips too many times yet. But I did, test this setup with a corpmate and it does work.
Originally by: FlameGlow
I heard of this cool module that makes you impossible to probe out, it' called cloaking device or so I heard
your probe placement sucks btw octahedron around signature works better and they are too far from signature
Yes, I have heard of that. Have you heard of skills, and that you need to invest time in those? Right now this cheap solutions works for me.
About octahedron - it has 90 angels all over, and probes are farther away to the signature in it than tetrahedron shape. Haven't actully compared them. Will do.
On the OP. Have found a list of exploration sites
http://pkmx-blog.blogspot.com/2009/06/eve-online-exploration-log.html
The "local backup server" is the hardest radar site in High sec. Still the difficulty to locate amazes me.
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Canute Minealot
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Posted - 2009.07.16 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Matsujima
I am pretty new to probing Radar sites, but this seams wrong.
Buzzard x 4 skill + 2 rigs + astrometrc acquisition x 3 + sister core scanner probes + tetrahedron metod = 77% on a radar site in O.5 system. Barely got the name to show up - Local Guristas Backup Server.
Bug or some amazing site needing perfect probing setup?
No, you just miss the primaery skill Astrometric Pinpointing, 10% Probe scan str / lvl.
All other is ok.
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Calleb
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Posted - 2009.07.17 07:09:00 -
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What is the range set at on your probes? If you can reduce the range it increases sensor strength giving a better hit, this is your best chance to find the location.
Also It could be that you simply need a 5th probe to get a stonger hit - but to make sure each of your probes is infact getting a result on the target, try making them inactive 1 at a time and re-scan - If you switch one off and it does not affect the scan result - this probe need repositioning.
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