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URG thrash
Renegade Technologies Slacker Trade Federation Unlimited
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:11:00 -
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im sorry ccp , i know you put alot of hard work into the new inventory system, and you did not even come close to making it easier . In fact you guys make it much much more of a pain in the butt to move stuff around , one of the simplest things you can do in eve now has become a major pain in the butt.
I do not see how you can think this makes life easier in eve . took me 20 minutes to figure out how to load some missiles into my cargo bay when it took all of a 2 seconds to do it before hand .
To make it simple you turned the inventory system into a nightmare of confusion .
Im a seasoned eve player , been in eve a long time , and i was bout to say F this game because of this , i can only imagine what a new player will think about the new inventory system
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1663
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:13:00 -
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Wow...really? Nobody else on the forums has made a post like this today. You must be the only one that thinks this... EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |

B3AST MODE B3AST
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:14:00 -
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I think it sucks too. |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:15:00 -
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URG thrash wrote: took me 20 minutes to figure out how to load some missiles into my cargo bay
That makes you a very special little snowflake. I don't think your opinion is valid. |

FeralShadow
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:16:00 -
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20 minutes. It only took me 20 seconds. You and my household plant are in a close race to see who can find light the fastest.
Also, obligatory Shift click to open new window. Shift click to open new window. How the Eve Sandbox Works:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=482176#post482176 "I do believe in karma. That means that whenever I do something sh**y to others, they somehow deserved it." |

URG thrash
Renegade Technologies Slacker Trade Federation Unlimited
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:21:00 -
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nice smart a$$ comments. HAHA
20 min is a bit of a exaggeration, but point is still the same .
its not intuitive , nor easy to navigate.....
its just my opinion and i am NOT ALONE
so all you trolls out there can just flame away.... |

BombDust
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:28:00 -
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Sorry I don-¦t get this. In the new inventory you have all you items nicely catagorized, all you have to do is ctrl + cklick to get an entiry new window opened (from a different category) and there you have two windows open next to each other. How the h*ll can this be confusing?!? And furhermore, with some practise this is a really fast and efficient system. |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:28:00 -
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URG thrash wrote:nice smart a$$ comments. HAHA
20 min is a bit of a exaggeration, but point is still the same .
its not intuitive , nor easy to navigate.....
its just my opinion and i am NOT ALONE
so all you trolls out there can just flame away....
20 seconds to figure out the new inventory system is pretty accurate, for the nonretarded.
It's very intuitive and easy to navigate.
I like it and I'm not alone.
I'm not a troll, but will flame you anyways. You are an idiot.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
289
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:32:00 -
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I'm so glad you felt that your worthless pubbie opinion deserved it's own thread rather than consigning this post to the depths of one of the other 50 threads posted by equally awful people on this same topic. If you had I might have missed this fine opportunity to tell you how dumb you are.
You're dumb. Heh. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:35:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:URG thrash wrote:nice smart a$$ comments. HAHA
20 min is a bit of a exaggeration, but point is still the same .
its not intuitive , nor easy to navigate.....
its just my opinion and i am NOT ALONE
so all you trolls out there can just flame away.... 20 seconds to figure out the new inventory system is pretty accurate, for the nonretarded. It's very intuitive and easy to navigate. I like it and I'm not alone. I'm not a troll, but will flame you anyways. You are an idiot.
How many shift clicks are you doing to find separate stuff at a certain station?
How many shift clicks are you doing to separate your packaged ships and the ones already fitted?
How many shift clicks more you have to do when you have 10 same fitted ships but one insured and will only be flying that one because insurance and reimbursement?
Yeah, so much intuitive for troll posting indeed, nothing else to add.
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:36:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:I'm so glad you felt that your worthless pubbie opinion deserved it's own thread rather than consigning this post to the depths of one of the other 50 threads posted by equally awful people on this same topic. If you had I might have missed this fine opportunity to tell you how dumb you are.
You're dumb.
I love you blonde skinny ass dudette, would you like to make babies with meh?  |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
705
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:37:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:URG thrash wrote:nice smart a$$ comments. HAHA
20 min is a bit of a exaggeration, but point is still the same .
its not intuitive , nor easy to navigate.....
its just my opinion and i am NOT ALONE
so all you trolls out there can just flame away.... 20 seconds to figure out the new inventory system is pretty accurate, for the nonretarded. It's very intuitive and easy to navigate. I like it and I'm not alone. I'm not a troll, but will flame you anyways. You are an idiot.
When peopel like something, they don't really think to post about it. But when someone doesn't like somethey they all get angry and want to find a place to say it.
Those of us who like the system should post more. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |

Cedar Locus
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:37:00 -
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havent tried it but agree, so many forum posters cant be wrong |

Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:45:00 -
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Really made a mess of things this time CCP. The only thing CCP added with the new inventory system is unnecessary complexity and increased lag.
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URG thrash
Renegade Technologies Slacker Trade Federation Unlimited
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:45:00 -
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WOW so much hate on the forums why i usually dont post so i dont like the new inventory, guess its time to tar and feather me , call me all kinds of names and declare war and drive me out of eve huh ?
you ppl need to take a freakin pill .
yea i started a new thread, because i dont live on the forums .
calling me names just shows how the ******** the flamer is .
YES I LOATH THE NEW INVENTORY SYSTEM......... it was supposed to make life easier, not more complex . that was the point of my post.
if you cannot respect that than **** on you .
and trolls you can bite my shiney metal butt ! :P |

Kuehnelt
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:48:00 -
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It's a common failing when the impetus is that the old code was "too complicated". It didn't become too complicated in a day - it evolved into that state as long-forgotten problems were encountered and unrecorded lessons learned. The new guys might've respected the code more, to leave it in, to try harder to mimic it, to clean it up rather than rewrite it, but all these complications made it ugly -- and who respects ugly? It's easier to conclude that the last guy was daft. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1966
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:53:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:URG thrash wrote:nice smart a$$ comments. HAHA
20 min is a bit of a exaggeration, but point is still the same .
its not intuitive , nor easy to navigate.....
its just my opinion and i am NOT ALONE
so all you trolls out there can just flame away.... 20 seconds to figure out the new inventory system is pretty accurate, for the nonretarded. It's very intuitive and easy to navigate. I like it and I'm not alone. I'm not a troll, but will flame you anyways. You are an idiot. How many shift clicks are you doing to find separate stuff at a certain station? How many shift clicks are you doing to separate your packaged ships and the ones already fitted? How many shift clicks more you have to do when you have 10 same fitted ships but one insured and will only be flying that one because insurance and reimbursement? Yeah, so much intuitive for troll posting indeed, nothing else to add.
Answer: Less clicks than you previously had.
Insurance status is incredibly obvious now.
Filters are your friend, as is merging your ships and items hanger (no brainer).
Tweaks are needed yes, but 90% of the issues being complained about are removed by dragging your items from the window you are working with to the tree.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1966
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:56:00 -
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URG thrash wrote:WOW so much hate on the forums why i usually dont post so i dont like the new inventory, guess its time to tar and feather me , call me all kinds of names and declare war and drive me out of eve huh ?
you ppl need to take a freakin pill .
yea i started a new thread, because i dont live on the forums .
calling me names just shows how the ******** the flamer is .
YES I LOATH THE NEW INVENTORY SYSTEM......... it was supposed to make life easier, not more complex . that was the point of my post.
if you cannot respect that than **** on you .
and trolls you can bite my shiney metal butt ! :P
Stop trying to force the new system to operate the way the old one did. It eventually will but a couple of things need to be fixed first.
Example:
When you drag from one window to another the items actually do move just as they always have, but there is a bug where your view does not reflect this until you refresh your view.
It's a minor issue that does indeed need a fix, but it leads people to believe they can't drag from one window to another any more. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Darth Kilth
Clan Exiled Legends
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Posted - 2012.05.22 21:59:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
Stop trying to force the new system to operate the way the old one did. It eventually will but a couple of things need to be fixed first.
Example:
When you drag from one window to another the items actually do move just as they always have, but there is a bug where your view does not reflect this until you refresh your view.
It's a minor issue that does indeed need a fix, but it leads people to believe they can't drag from one window to another any more.
IT doesn't have to be exactly the same as the old one, but it should at least be as effective as the old one. Right now it requires several mouse clicks more then before to do the same thing (except for the basic stuff) and that is very frustrating to most people who move a lot of stuff around in hangars. |

Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:00:00 -
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If I was a developer I'd certainly look to the festering pit of stupid that is General Discussion for useful feedback on my work. Heh. |

MoHawk Nephilium
Interest Recovery Service
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:21:00 -
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BombDust wrote:Sorry I don-¦t get this. In the new inventory you have all you items nicely catagorized, all you have to do is ctrl + cklick to get an entiry new window opened (from a different category) and there you have two windows open next to each other. How the h*ll can this be confusing?!? And furhermore, with some practise this is a really fast and efficient system.
I too hate the new inventory, I also agree that its not that hard to ctrl+ click to open an individual window, especially if you've pinned those windows they'll open in the same spot. My ***** is why in the hell would they make this new system & not even give the option to lock like the "items &"ships" window so they're already open when you dock up? VERY annoying! |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:28:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:If I was a developer I'd certainly look to the festering pit of stupid that is General Discussion for useful feedback on my work.
The ranger guy above you seems serious about how easy and intuitive it is now compared with old feature and related "bugs"
By the way, what was really wrong with old feature? -how wait win 1.1 window like 
welp they could just change feature skins to new one and keep old feature usability, at least make it optional.
We had the "DOOR" now the "WINDOW" next expansion what it will be? - the "SOFA" or the "CHIMNEY" ?
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Comet Catcher
Special little Snowflakes
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:28:00 -
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As a special little snowflake i can't really say that it's that hard (20 min to load your missiles, really?) to get around with the new inventory system, but it really has its flaws.
I can cope with the stuff in station, but right now, the whole window pops up for me every single time i warp to a new system and salvaging has become a real mess. |

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
135
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:30:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:If I was a developer I'd certainly look to the festering pit of stupid that is General Discussion for useful feedback on my work.
If I was CCP I would look at the overwhelming negitive feed back in nearly every thread to do with the new UI, including test and think, oh maybe we did get it wrong.
Tal
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Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:35:00 -
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The new inventory has its positive aspects, but a fair degree of functionality has been lost in the shuffle.
More clicks to do the same job as could have been done with less clicks before the change means loss of functionality.
This is like a re-run of the Hangar view controversy last year. Some people thought it was just about "ship spinning" per se, whereas of course it wasn't, it was about a) practical loss of functionality, and b) psychological loss of a sense of "home". The first is more immediately important, but the latter is potential death to an MMORPG that depends on subscriptions, that depend on people finding a sense of "home" in the game. It seems CCP didn't quite learn the lesson then. Hopefully they will this time. It's not as big a disaster overall (it's in the context of an update that has some very nice features), but it does need sorting PDQ.
As usual, Tippia has nailed it. I'm not as much of a power-user as she is, but I'm feeling the loss of functionality to my own degree. |

Kalpel
KBM
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Posted - 2012.05.22 22:44:00 -
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BombDust wrote:Sorry I don-¦t get this. In the new inventory you have all you items nicely catagorized, all you have to do is ctrl + cklick to get an entiry new window opened (from a different category) and there you have two windows open next to each other. How the h*ll can this be confusing?!? And furhermore, with some practise this is a really fast and efficient system.
LOL I did this once and closed the window and it never worked again! the system is fail CCP did an EPIC fail with this!
You failed to target nothing!-áGëívGëí online |

Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:28:00 -
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After messing with it for a bit, I can see what they had in mind. For some use cases, it is better. They, however, didn't think it through for other cases. POS and salvaging? - Very irritating (Being kind here).
In my opinion, their efforts would have been better utilized on the Assets dialog.
The missile stuff, even though they threw the laws of physics out the proverbial window, is pretty sweet. |

Ymmi Stenson
Aquila Crysaetos Aquila Societatem
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:31:00 -
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URG thrash wrote:im sorry ccp , i know you put alot of hard work into the new inventory system, and you did not even come close to making it easier . In fact you guys make it much much more of a pain in the butt to move stuff around , one of the simplest things you can do in eve now has become a major pain in the butt.
I do not see how you can think this makes life easier in eve . took me 20 minutes to figure out how to load some missiles into my cargo bay when it took all of a 2 seconds to do it before hand .
To make it simple you turned the inventory system into a nightmare of confusion .
Im a seasoned eve player , been in eve a long time , and i was bout to say F this game because of this , i can only imagine what a new player will think about the new inventory system
So because you are slow, we all should be slow with old system? |

Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Crunchy Crunchy Peregrine Nation
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:32:00 -
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The OP's grammar "sucketh" far worse than the new inventory system. The new UI has made it a lot easier for me to actually find my stuff instead of having to scroll through endless lines of items or try to type in some module name that I just can't quite recall. It's also made mining a lot more streamlined, although I will have to get used to the Loot All button's slightly reconfigured position. Honestly, congrats are in order to CCP.
Now, pulled from CCP's secret files, is the recipe they used to create the new inventory. "Take three cups of awesomesauce and a dash of pwnspice. Mix it all together thoroughly through coding magic, then refrigerate for several days to cool the heat of haters. Finally, serve for a full helping of pure win." http://eve-sojourn.blogspot.com/
Sojourn, a newbie's EVE blog. |

CannonFodder82
VTEC Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:39:00 -
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FeralShadow wrote:20 minutes. It only took me 20 seconds. You and my household plant are in a close race to see who can find light the fastest.
Also, obligatory Shift click to open new window. thats about 15 seconds longer than it used to take, im all for improvments to eve, no doubt.
im-+prove-+ment (m-prvmnt) n. 1. a. The act or process of improving. b. The state of being improved. 2. A change or addition that improves.
making something take longer and have to "shift click" which im fking sick of hearing TBH (its an excuse) is not improving something (which lets face it didnt need improving)
has anyone in the last 9 years decided its too hard to move some stuff from items to a ships cargo drone bay etc?
No Me either fix bugs etc leave other things alone
how is the Captains quarters doing these days? I only see mine when the option somehow magically turns itself back on
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Maximille Biagge
The Eden Trading International Corporation Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:46:00 -
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Posting in another inventory thread to say I love the new inventory, it's is so easy to use and has deffinitely cut down the amount of annoying windows everywhere in my station.
Seriously if you are having a hard time figuring it out then maybe you should play some solitair or something, you know learn to drag and drop in a single window. |

LShock
Unknown Soldiers Soldiers Of New Eve
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:50:00 -
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******* inventory things sucks ass, no way in hell can you call this an improvement do we have to whine for 4 years to get it back the old way ?? like with the cyno effect ? fix this **** cause it's really for starters annoying.
also why can't I put fb's from my own corp hanger array into my own dronebay anymore from sc ?? makes no sense |

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
143
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:52:00 -
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Maximille Biagge wrote:Posting in another inventory thread to say I love the new inventory, it's is so easy to use and has deffinitely cut down the amount of annoying windows everywhere in my station.
Seriously if you are having a hard time figuring it out then maybe you should play some solitair or something, you know learn to drag and drop in a single window.
Maybe you should learn to manage your desktop its only messy if you make it that way. We can manage it fine, we just don't want to. its more clicky and less intuitive.
Tal
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CannonFodder82
VTEC Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:54:00 -
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Maximille Biagge wrote:Posting in another inventory thread to say I love the new inventory, it's is so easy to use and has deffinitely cut down the amount of annoying windows everywhere in my station.
Seriously if you are having a hard time figuring it out then maybe you should play some solitair or something, you know learn to drag and drop in a single window. im not playing on a 15" screen so its not an issue to me or many others. alot of people use dual screens etc so they can layout things how they choose (sandbox anyone?)
put it back CCP for the love of ...well whoever |

Orlacc
168
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:55:00 -
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I always value the opinion of someone who doesn't take 2 seconds to see if there is another post on the subject. |

Lord Joshua
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar Apocalyptic Legion.
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Posted - 2012.05.22 23:56:00 -
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Shift click does not solve every problem with this new inv system |

snake pies
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.23 00:23:00 -
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Currently, the same sorting view option is forced on ship and item hangars, and this is not acceptable. I want my ship hangar in icons, and my item hangars as list view. Thank you. |

Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
188
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:59:00 -
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Lord Joshua wrote:Shift click does not solve every problem with this new inv system
Actually it doesn't solve any problem. 
It might as well not be there, because the new windows don't "remember" anything, they're independent new instances.
For your average combat player, perhaps it's no big deal.
But if you are a power user (which a fair proportion of EVE players no doubt are - more particularly, those who do a lot of economic PvP), accustomed to cross-comparing at a glance multiple windows/tabs that remember what they're doing, and used to a fast workflow, this system is a pretty big loss of UI functionality and utility (for a comparatively minimal gain), as you have to set them up every time you get back into the station. But even then, there are still other problems.
It's not the end of the world, the problems should be solveable (I hope to God they are), but there are problems, and they need solving ASAP. |

Carrondell
Society of SOMA
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:16:00 -
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This new 'feature is a real pain. Spend 5 minutes everytime I log on reopening ships, inventory and cargo windows and placing them where I like them. Pinning doesn't work since it only remembers one position, e.g. not mutiple windows.
In my opinion the worst Ui feature introduced in 7 years. Just wish there was an option to use the old system.
Really annoying.
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LittleTerror
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Posted - 2012.05.23 13:16:00 -
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humm it takes a little getting use to but i like it, the drop down list of ship cargo hanger items etc is a bit of a mess which is the only thing that needs improve imo, they should use bigger icons or something to make it more clear so dragging and drop stuff from ship cargo to hanger is easier. |
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