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JD JCKDNLS
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Posted - 2009.07.17 17:34:00 -
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OK cloaking devices
i am posting a tread on cloaking to get a few different views
and to see how everyone views the use of a cloaking device.
now the cloaking device is an awesome weapon. it allows you to
cloak in a system and view the activities of the enemy. it also allows for safe movement of fleets.and to attack your prey unseen and to avoid being attacked.
now . the problem with it, people are using this device to disrupt the activities of the system, rather it be mining , ratting. or other functions of a corporation or alliance that is important to their survival.
now everything else has pretty much been nerfed over the years.
don't you think its time to put a time limit nerf on the cloaking device ?
lets say, add a new cargo bay which would require the use of
an isotope to remain cloaked? or to have a time limit of when you would uncloak?
any thoughts or ideas on this ?
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.17 17:39:00 -
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I made it to the 4th line before my head exploded. Anyone came further?
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Spectre3353
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 17:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Furb Killer
I made it to the 4th line before my head exploded. Anyone came further?
I stopped at pretty much the same point. I hope that some brave soul will venture along and make it to the peak of the mountain and let us know what it says.
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Bibbleibble
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Posted - 2009.07.17 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
I made it to the 4th line before my head exploded. Anyone came further?
I read the whole thing. 
Ugh, I don't feel so good....
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Toxif
Minmatar
The Hive Syndicate
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.07.17 17:47:00 -
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I got to line 9 =) This would make for a great 'you rage you lose' OP on 4chan.
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Zeminy
Minmatar
The Knights Templar
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Posted - 2009.07.17 17:51:00 -
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I heard it had something to do with cloaking ... I have my analyst on the job ...
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Sserxe
Gallente
Independent Miners Guild
Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.17 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Sserxe on 17/07/2009 18:06:54
post content extraction: Should cloakes have a time limit or be required to have a fuel to keep running?
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente
No End To Infinity
Fleetingly Finite
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Posted - 2009.07.17 18:07:00 -
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Been put forward before.
Cloaked ships can't hurt you.
Uncloaked ships can be killed.
The problem is with the people in the system who are letting it disrupt them.
I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually. |
Sserxe
Gallente
Independent Miners Guild
Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.17 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith
Been put forward before.
Cloaked ships can't hurt you.
Uncloaked ships can be killed.
The problem is with the people in the system who are letting it disrupt them.
contrar my friend, a cloaked ship can't directly hurt you but can give a gang/fleet a warp to point and squash an unspecting target.
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.07.17 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
don't you think its time to put a time limit nerf on the cloaking device ?
No, I don't think it's time.
It'll be time the day after LOCAL is removed.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Buffalo Soldiers
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Posted - 2009.07.17 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
any thoughts or ideas on this ?
You suck.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.07.17 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Gypsio III on 17/07/2009 19:02:54
Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
the problem with it, people are using this device to disrupt the activities of the system, rather it be mining , ratting. or other functions of a corporation or alliance that is important to their survival.
now everything else has pretty much been nerfed over the years.
don't you think its time to put a time limit nerf on the cloaking device ?
No, I think it's time to nerf mining, ratting, you, and in fact all activities that don't produce carebear wrecks.
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Grann Thefauto
Internal Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.07.17 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Edited by: Gypsio III on 17/07/2009 19:02:54
Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
the problem with it, people are using this device to disrupt the activities of the system, rather it be mining , ratting. or other functions of a corporation or alliance that is important to their survival.
now everything else has pretty much been nerfed over the years.
don't you think its time to put a time limit nerf on the cloaking device ?
No, I think it's time to nerf mining, ratting, you, and in fact all activities that don't produce carebear wrecks.
This is true. If you don't get a kill mail from it it needs a nerf.
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Jerera
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.17 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
OK cloaking devices
i am posting a tread on cloaking to get a few different views
and to see how everyone views the use of a cloaking device.
now the cloaking device is an awesome weapon. it allows you to
cloak in a system and view the activities of the enemy. it also allows for safe movement of fleets.and to attack your prey unseen and to avoid being attacked.
now . the problem with it, people are using this device to disrupt the activities of the system, rather it be mining , ratting. or other functions of a corporation or alliance that is important to their survival.
now everything else has pretty much been nerfed over the years.
don't you think its time to put a time limit nerf on the cloaking device ?
lets say, add a new cargo bay which would require the use of
an isotope to remain cloaked? or to have a time limit of when you would uncloak?
any thoughts or ideas on this ?
TL;DR version : why not a time limit coupled with fuel needs for cloak ?
But yeah, you are obviously interested in my post because you're now reading my signature. |
Pater Peccavi
Minmatar
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2009.07.17 19:41:00 -
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I didn't read the OP, but just wanted to comment that this thread's title is infeasible. Before 24 hours has been reached, EVE will go into downtime.
Originally by: hi go
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Mistified
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Posted - 2009.07.17 21:22:00 -
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My head hurts.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.07.17 21:34:00 -
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QQ THERE'S A GUY IN LOCAL SO I CAN'T UNDOCK A BLUU BLU BLUU BLUU EVE SHOULD BE TOTALLY SAFE FOR ME WAAAH
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
now . the problem with it, people are using this device to disrupt the activities of the system, rather it be mining , ratting. or other functions of a corporation or alliance that is important to their survival.
If you put it bluntly, you even are at an unfair advantage against the cloaker, as you can see him present in system at all times, even if he is cloaked up, you basically can tell from local chat if you have eyes on you or not, reducing your workload in terms of paying attention quite a lot.
Now if your corp / alliance is unable to sustain local defense against a sudden attack of one or two cloaked ships in the system you claim, you obviously do not deserve the riches it has to offer.
/tl;dr: nerf local
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Hennry Fromer
Gallente
The Radiated Space Gerbils
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Posted - 2009.07.17 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
OK cloaking devices
i am posting a tread on cloaking to get a few different views
and to see how everyone views the use of a cloaking device.
now the cloaking device is an awesome weapon. it allows you to
cloak in a system and view the activities of the enemy. it also allows for safe movement of fleets.and to attack your prey unseen and to avoid being attacked.
now . the problem with it, people are using this device to disrupt the activities of the system, rather it be mining , ratting. or other functions of a corporation or alliance that is important to their survival.
now everything else has pretty much been nerfed over the years.
don't you think its time to put a time limit nerf on the cloaking device ?
lets say, add a new cargo bay which would require the use of
an isotope to remain cloaked? or to have a time limit of when you would uncloak?
any thoughts or ideas on this ?
I think when they get rid of local or make it like wormhole space these threads will no longer show up.
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Shadowfoot
Caldari
Immune Empire
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Posted - 2009.07.18 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
OK cloaking devices
i am posting a tread on cloaking to get a few different views
You're posting a tread? HOW DARE YOU!
Btw, English class is that way  |
Atillius
Caldari
The SOS Brigade
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Posted - 2009.07.18 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: JD JCKDNLS
any thoughts or ideas on this ?
You suck.
My head exploded at line 5 of the OP's post...then I read this an it torn out my stitches,,,,,WAAAAAY to funny....very subtle, I think I may have peed my pants too....still laughing!
OP...DUDE...if you are in low sec and get popped...its your fault....tooooo bad....stay out of low sec.
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Miney Prospector
Caldari
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.07.18 05:32:00 -
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Edited by: Miney Prospector on 18/07/2009 05:32:21
OP you need to swap your ENTER key and SPACEBAR out, you have them confused.
Also.. is there nothing new under the sun to whine about that you have to rehash this old as cloaking devices gripe about people being cloaked disrupting "your" solar system.
If they are cloaked and AFK and it scares you.. pick your **** up and move. If they show up again, they're not AFK. If they don't show up, you're safe, party on. Keep in mind, you don't own any of the systems and we all enjoy equal protection under our $15/mo umbrella to be any kind of space douche we wanna be.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.07.18 05:41:00 -
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I, too, am TERRIFIED BEYOND BELIEF of ships that can not touch me.
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JD JCKDNLS
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Posted - 2009.07.18 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sserxe
Edited by: Sserxe on 17/07/2009 18:06:54
post content extraction: Should cloakes have a time limit or be required to have a fuel to keep running?
i give respect,to the only person in this room with intellegenace enough to take the time to understand.and
give me the answer i was looking for in both of his post.
thanks you Sserxe
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JD JCKDNLS
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Posted - 2009.07.18 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith
Been put forward before.
Cloaked ships can't hurt you.
Uncloaked ships can be killed.
The problem is with the people in the system who are letting it disrupt them.
my thanks to you also YAKUMO
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Shanija
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Posted - 2009.07.18 09:05:00 -
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The number of inane flame posts around here is pretty saddening.
Guys, it's a game. Other, real people are playing too. If you're playing a game to upset other players, it's time to quit.
Anyway. That aside, yes, being able to put a combat ship somewhere in an enemy system unattackable is overpowered. The most common place this turns up isn't cloaking at all - it's docking.
The fact is, maintaining a 23/7 defensive force that can respond immediately to save bears from an enemy is ludicrously much more expensive than parking an alt in a system and going to work. With no way of telling if an enemy ship is ready to attack and no way of kicking them out, the alternative is having a force ready to respond in time at all hours of the day.
So yes, it's bad design, and it should be fixed. I'd lean more towards some way of scanning down cloaked, non-covops targets or something, though.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.18 15:48:00 -
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Thread locked by request.
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