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Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.23 02:51:00 -
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Boomhaur wrote:Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:You unsubbed because of a window...............LOL TBH....it's actually rather sad. You obviously care nothing for the game at all. Forum Poseur. Hopefully he won't let THE DOOR hit him on the way out.
If you are referring to Peter Raptor, why yes. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |

Imortal valkyrie
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2012.05.23 03:32:00 -
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I have 2 words for all the people who are leaving or pretending to leave when the smallest thing happens that they don't like. Stop bitching!
If you are willing to leave eve over such trivial stuff then gtfo you aren't wanted anyway. |

Jame Jarl Retief
Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne
96
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Posted - 2012.05.23 03:37:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:I love how EVE players claim to be all hardcore, and then a tiny little change causes people like the OP to collapse into sobbing hysterics.
Personally I look forward to CCP replacing Aura with a helpful animated paperclip.
As long as they are HARDCORE sobbing hysterics, the premise that EVE players are hardcore holds true.
And while I'm not unsubbing (as I'm using PLEX bought with ISK, and EVE is free for me), I'm pretty unhappy with the new UI. Actually, I'm pretty unhappy with EVE UI in general. Drone UI, new unified UI, looting is still clunky.
OK, seriously. Looting? Look at how many games have auto-loot. Look how many games have automatic Area-of-Effect loot. Where looting one kill loots every other kill you have rights to in an X meter radius. Most new MMOs have this feature. EVE? No such luck. And why not? It's not like it takes an intelligent or skilled player to click the wreck, click loot, and click Loot All. It's just that most sane UI designers recognize this as unnecessary busy work that does not improve the gameplay, does not test player skill, does not entertain. But it sure does a good job of pissing people off.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
59
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Posted - 2012.05.23 03:42:00 -
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Watch out Drama-lama is in eve forums somewhere wrecking havoc... |

Soldarius
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
221
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:03:00 -
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First The Door. Now, The Window. What next? The Vent? "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Annabelle Ember
Kavashikari
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:39:00 -
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This is quite the principled stance to take over a UI window in a video game.
Not that I'm judging, of course. |

Kratisto
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:50:00 -
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Is everyone a moron? Yes the window system got changed.
But you can still create windows! windows everywhere! I have 8 GSCs in my main system, and I can open each one in a different window just as I used to. It is structured and has a search function, and has a monetary appraiser!
this is fantastic. all you have to do is go to the hierarchy and shift+left click once and it spawns a new window. Christ, get over yourselves. |

Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:53:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:Flamespar wrote:I love how EVE players claim to be all hardcore, and then a tiny little change causes people like the OP to collapse into sobbing hysterics.
Personally I look forward to CCP replacing Aura with a helpful animated paperclip.
As long as they are HARDCORE sobbing hysterics, the premise that EVE players are hardcore holds true. And while I'm not unsubbing (as I'm using PLEX bought with ISK, and EVE is free for me), I'm pretty unhappy with the new UI. Actually, I'm pretty unhappy with EVE UI in general. Drone UI, new unified UI, looting is still clunky. OK, seriously. Looting? Look at how many games have auto-loot. Look how many games have automatic Area-of-Effect loot. Where looting one kill loots every other kill you have rights to in an X meter radius. Most new MMOs have this feature. EVE? No such luck. And why not? It's not like it takes an intelligent or skilled player to click the wreck, click loot, and click Loot All. It's just that most sane UI designers recognize this as unnecessary busy work that does not improve the gameplay, does not test player skill, does not entertain. But it sure does a good job of pissing people off.
Wouldn't that prevent ninja looting? Seems to be against some of the spirit of the game...I'll gladly loot one at a time, if it means others might try and take my loot...or I can try and take theirs if I am so inclined. "To destroy is always the first step in any creation." - E. E. Cummings |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
46
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:53:00 -
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I'm grateful for your decision because obviously only massive amount of unsubscribed accounts may force CCP to boost EVE development - as monoclegate clearly indicated.
It is somewhat sad this "expansion" doesn't have enough "features" for massive rage and "unsubscription" campaign to boost EVE development pace as a result of dropping money flow. So most like next couple of EVE expansions will be as empty as previous three (PI, CQ, present meh-expansion).
Thanks and good luck! |

Little Brat
Four Gun
14
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:55:00 -
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After messing around with the new hanger/ship interface, I'm beginning to like it more than I thought I would. Having it open along with the ship fitting window is bothersome...but I can live with it. To rage quit instead of figuring out how to best use it doesn't make any sense to me. Eve is all about complexity...jeez., life would be boring without change or the goons! -á-áad astra per aspera |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
777
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:59:00 -
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Kolvin Trask wrote:Unsubbed both accounts. No more money for CCP.
Loss of income is more harmful then shooting a statue at Jita. My payments are nothing to CCPs bottom line, but enough angry folks might eventually get noticed.
I'll log in to continue training during the time I have paid for, and to see if this gets fixed. But no more cash or effort.
( and no, I won't reward people who like this crock of sh*t by giving away in-game stuff ) You'll be missed.
Your stuff... I can haz? Post contract if so...
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SweetHoney
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:59:00 -
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You know you can still have as many windows open as you want !?
hint: Shift +click or right click and open separate
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Ginseng Jita
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
180
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Posted - 2012.05.23 04:59:00 -
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Bye...oh before you go mate. Make a payment to me Ginseng Jita. I'll put your ISK to good use. I promise.  |

Rath Kelbore
Spaceship Hooligan Productions
198
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Posted - 2012.05.23 05:01:00 -
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Kolvin Trask wrote:Unsubbed both accounts. No more money for CCP.
Loss of income is more harmful then shooting a statue at Jita. My payments are nothing to CCPs bottom line, but enough angry folks might eventually get noticed.
I'll log in to continue training during the time I have paid for, and to see if this gets fixed. But no more cash or effort.
( and no, I won't reward people who like this crock of sh*t by giving away in-game stuff )
Im sure u will be missed. Btw, the thing ur raging like a 12 year old girl about, I'ts better than it was before. I would ask for your stuff but i fear you would be unable to find it. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Diamonica Norya
University of Caille Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.05.23 05:34:00 -
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Kratisto wrote:Is everyone a moron? Yes the window system got changed.
But you can still create windows! windows everywhere! I have 8 GSCs in my main system, and I can open each one in a different window just as I used to. It is structured and has a search function, and has a monetary appraiser!
this is fantastic. all you have to do is go to the hierarchy and shift+left click once and it spawns a new window. Christ, get over yourselves.
This has nothing to do with whether everyone is as smart/silly to figure out how to use the new system. It has nothing to do with the bugs such as the session change issues which is likely easy to fix.
This has everything to do with how the system was thought out, every possible usage scenarios explored, the way it was implemented, how the test and QA were conducted and how the feedbacks were treated to resolve potential issues and improve the implementation before it went live.
It appears the entirety of the above were all poorly executed at every step from concept to the realization of the product. Worst of all, the reason that this gets so much disappointment is because this change does not simply affect specific demographic of the player population but the whole, everybody! And accessing inventory is one of the most used functions in Eve, no matter what profession path, one pretty much needs to access inventory every time they play. (one don't call log in simply queuing skills playing right?)
*** 8 GSCs are nothing, the unified inventory works treat for small scale self management of assets, you try that for a corp and spending the extra time going through expanding/collapsing the tree
(station corp hangers, containers within hangers, ship corp hangers, individual ship hangers, ship ore holds, POS containers (offensive, corp hanger array, research labs, silos), member hangers (if you have hundreds of members in your corp)
and after you played with that, then come back and tell us it is super intuitive and you love it, (No, we are not looking for the answer that says: "why yes? I can figure out how to use it still, just took extra time, but I beat the new system usability IQ challenge!"), go tell everyone that it is efficient and intuitive, totally streamlined and Eve's never been a better place without it.
Also: The search system was already implemented. The monetary appraiser is doable regardless of the system old or new, it just wasn't implemented in the old one The unified inventory could've been implemented differently and use the "Asset" Function as a test phase, instead they want to go big.
It only tells players that the CCP devs now days just sit in station and they never really do play the game in a way that can expose them to the full aspects of the activities this sandbox they created/inherited from their predecessors and are unwilling to open their mind up to a wider perspective.
CCP for the past few years since Dominion expansion, has changed from an innovative organization into an place filled with quite a portion of ignorant personnels.
Not everyone who're unhappy are unsubbing over this "window" thingy, however, the large portions of small consumer entities that has no real way of getting their voices heard at an up-to-themselves service provider who simply are ignorant and won't care, those consumers end up only having one choice that's easy to make and most effective in their opinion which is unsub, because that's the thing that they have control. (remember, not everyone is capable of holding onto the wealth of trillions of monthly passive income and use it to rally 10k pets to burn Jita in a display of their dissent for being temporarily banned from game and removed from the CSM chair position)
Personally I'm not unsubbing (yet), but that's also because I braced myself long before the expansion went live, to expect nothing worthwhile from this Inferno expansion. But just let people vent, as long as it is valid arguments and discussions, there's no need to call people names. Nobody (including devs) is meant to force one to play one other's play style as long as it is within the bounds of the game rules, no?
And those who ask for freebies, why act like a begger and being so weak? |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
1090
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Posted - 2012.05.23 05:38:00 -
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I was gonna respond but first I'm gonna test some stuff cause from what I can tell the way that the windows are remembering their positions is already a great improvement from SiSi. The Drake is a Lie |

Diamonica Norya
University of Caille Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.05.23 05:42:00 -
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double post..... -_- |

Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
65
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Posted - 2012.05.23 05:45:00 -
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Can I have your stuff? I'm serious. |

Cutter Isaacson
Peace n Quiet
134
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Posted - 2012.05.23 06:36:00 -
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I'm pretty sure I'm one of the dumbest people in EVE, and even I can use the new Unified Inventory with zero issues. So what is with all the pant wetting sissys, throwing their toys out of the pram and shitting their nappies?
The new system needs adjustments, which can only be decided upon by releasing the new basic structure on to the main server. I wonder how many EVE players actually use the test server, and out of those few, how many actually help to test new functions and updates, and how many just go to SISI to fly expensive ships on easy mode?
Bottom line seems to be that in order to properly evaluate the usefulness and functionality of the new UI, it needs to be refined in-situ, on the TQ server. So how about instead of people screaming like butthurt chimps, they actually attempt to give some form of constructive feedback? Oh right, because it takes effort doesn't it? More effort than flapping your arms around on the forums like a bunch of over privileged, snot nosed mommas boys. |

Nastrado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.23 06:54:00 -
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Look at all the unimportant people complaining. It's..... cute |
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Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
67
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Posted - 2012.05.23 06:56:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm one of the dumbest people in EVE, and even I can use the new Unified Inventory with zero issues. So what is with all the pant wetting sissys, throwing their toys out of the pram and shitting their nappies?
The new system needs adjustments, which can only be decided upon by releasing the new basic structure on to the main server. I wonder how many EVE players actually use the test server, and out of those few, how many actually help to test new functions and updates, and how many just go to SISI to fly expensive ships on easy mode?
Bottom line seems to be that in order to properly evaluate the usefulness and functionality of the new UI, it needs to be refined in-situ, on the TQ server. So how about instead of people screaming like butthurt chimps, they actually attempt to give some form of constructive feedback? Oh right, because it takes effort doesn't it? More effort than flapping your arms around on the forums like a bunch of over privileged, snot nosed mommas boys.
We have, they are ignoring it. |

Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Hades.
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 07:05:00 -
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Kolvin Trask wrote:Unsubbed both accounts. No more money for CCP.
Loss of income is more harmful then shooting a statue at Jita. My payments are nothing to CCPs bottom line, but enough angry folks might eventually get noticed.
I'll log in to continue training during the time I have paid for, and to see if this gets fixed. But no more cash or effort.
( and no, I won't reward people who like this crock of sh*t by giving away in-game stuff ) If you want to show them you're really serious....
Destroy all your assets and wealth. Make a contract for an ISK amount 100x greater than what's in your wallet to wipe it all out in a single brokers fee (e.g. a 1 trillion ISK contract for 10 billion ISK in wealth, or scale it depending on how high you have broker relations trained). Get all your ships concorded.
That way, the game devs would know you're dead-serious about unsubbing and never returning. |

Malcorian Vandsteidt
Invictus Mortalitus Paradox Initiative
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 07:13:00 -
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I am not even sure why he unsubbed,
I can tell hes angry about "something". But there is no actual explanation for the cause of him unsubbing. |

Cutter Isaacson
Peace n Quiet
135
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Posted - 2012.05.23 07:23:00 -
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Malice Redeemer wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm one of the dumbest people in EVE, and even I can use the new Unified Inventory with zero issues. So what is with all the pant wetting sissys, throwing their toys out of the pram and shitting their nappies?
The new system needs adjustments, which can only be decided upon by releasing the new basic structure on to the main server. I wonder how many EVE players actually use the test server, and out of those few, how many actually help to test new functions and updates, and how many just go to SISI to fly expensive ships on easy mode?
Bottom line seems to be that in order to properly evaluate the usefulness and functionality of the new UI, it needs to be refined in-situ, on the TQ server. So how about instead of people screaming like butthurt chimps, they actually attempt to give some form of constructive feedback? Oh right, because it takes effort doesn't it? More effort than flapping your arms around on the forums like a bunch of over privileged, snot nosed mommas boys. We have, they are ignoring it.
I applaud those that did, but perhaps the amount of feedback received was inadequate thus the deployment, in its current and not totally unusable state, to the Tranquillity server. What better way to gain mass feedback on something? Getting the opinions and ideas of maybe 100-200 people on the test server is all well and good, but it is in no way, shape or form a good indicator of the cross section of the EVE community. |

destiny2
Scorpius Federation Kleinrock Group
29
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:02:00 -
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Hmm OP isnt used to change. big deal.
Really hope you dont freakout like this when someone tells you to CHANGE your clothes. |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
70
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:10:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:Hmm OP isnt used to change. big deal.
Really hope you dont freakout like this when someone tells you to CHANGE your clothes.
cute, let us now all the new things you can do with the new inventory, after you have used it, as you clearly have not |

Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
137
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:24:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:Weaklings like you don't deserve a capsule license anyway. Actually taking a stand against any Corporation at all is a rather brave thing,
ewwwwwwwww you're one of those morons |

Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
71
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:25:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:Kolvin Trask wrote:Unsubbed both accounts. No more money for CCP.
Loss of income is more harmful then shooting a statue at Jita. My payments are nothing to CCPs bottom line, but enough angry folks might eventually get noticed.
I'll log in to continue training during the time I have paid for, and to see if this gets fixed. But no more cash or effort.
( and no, I won't reward people who like this crock of sh*t by giving away in-game stuff ) If you want to show them you're really serious.... Destroy all your assets and wealth. Make a contract for an ISK amount 100x greater than what's in your wallet to wipe it all out in a single brokers fee (e.g. a 1 trillion ISK contract for 10 billion ISK in wealth, or scale it depending on how high you have broker relations trained). Get all your ships concorded. Then terminate your characters. Fraps the termination and upload it to YouTube, post it here to show them you're not f-ing around. That way, the game devs would know you're dead-serious about unsubbing and never returning. wow, stupid |
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ISD Grossvogel
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.05.23 08:31:00 -
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