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Marcus Gideon Gallente Federal Defense Operations	Posted - 2009.07.20 02:21:00 - [1] So everyone is in agreement... the Imicus/new Helios looks like a dog lifting its leg on a fire hydrant. The Maulus/old Helios looks like an Xmas ornament. No one could say, straight faced and sober, that Gallente craftsmanship is pretty to behold. But at least it used to be better than it is at the moment. So here's my proposal. Swap the Helios models back. In fact, swap the Imicus and Maulus models as well. That way, the EW frigs (which are useless in any situation) will still match. And those of us who were born and raised Gallente, and yet had to crosstrain Amarr to get a decent looking CovOps, can get back out there with the right brand name on the hood.
Marcus Gideon Federal Defense Operations	Posted - 2009.07.20 02:22:00 - [2] Edited by: Marcus Gideon on 20/07/2009 02:21:56 And +1
Lin Zhang	Posted - 2009.07.20 03:15:00 - [3] Edited by: Lin Zhang on 20/07/2009 03:17:56 Edited by: Lin Zhang on 20/07/2009 03:16:03 Originally by: Marcus Gideon And those of us who were born and raised Gallente, and yet had to crosstrain Amarr to get a decent looking CovOps, can get back out there with the right brand name on the hood. ^^^THIS. Praise and Amen.
Fennore	Posted - 2009.07.20 03:16:00 - [4] I really didn't like have to cross train to Pilgrim to get a useful ship for recon/plex/ scanning machine.
Whatsamatta Yu	Posted - 2009.07.20 03:32:00 - [5] Meh.... It's a ship. It don't matter what it looks like. This isn't Warcrack. It's all about what can be fit to it. (If I wanted to look pretty, I wouldn't be playing EVE... don't get me wrong, the graphics update was nice, but it's no Gears of War or Bioshock. I'd be happy flying in a white sphere rods sticking out for guns.) If ship models need/should be changed, the base model should be changed, too. In my opinion, it's better to keep the things as they are now. It makes a bit more sense in progression than previously for newer players and those of us that suffer from CRS. (A t1 EWar frig changed into a t2 astro frig for a couple races, but not for others?) Sorry for the small rant, but the changes are done. The complaints can continue, but I don't think things are going to get changed. Maybe if there was a significant performance impact (scan probe bubbles or interface in general, warp tunnel effect) or causing other problems, I'd argue for changing it.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.07.20 05:48:00 - [6] Used to fly it all the time, can't bring myself to look at the ugly hull after it being such a nice lookin ship.
Marcus Gideon Gallente Federal Defense Operations	Posted - 2009.07.20 12:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Whatsamatta Yu Meh.... It's a ship. It don't matter what it looks like. This isn't Warcrack. It's all about what can be fit to it. (If I wanted to look pretty, I wouldn't be playing EVE... don't get me wrong, the graphics update was nice, but it's no Gears of War or Bioshock. I'd be happy flying in a white sphere rods sticking out for guns.) If ship models need/should be changed, the base model should be changed, too. In my opinion, it's better to keep the things as they are now. It makes a bit more sense in progression than previously for newer players and those of us that suffer from CRS. (A t1 EWar frig changed into a t2 astro frig for a couple races, but not for others?) Sorry for the small rant, but the changes are done. The complaints can continue, but I don't think things are going to get changed. Maybe if there was a significant performance impact (scan probe bubbles or interface in general, warp tunnel effect) or causing other problems, I'd argue for changing it. 1) If you don't care what it looks like, then maybe you should go play a Pen and Paper game or something? Maybe read a book perhaps. But for those of us to do enjoy using our graphics card for something other than porn, we'd like ships that don't suck. 2) If CCP can toss out a simple patch and switch models, they can do it again. Obviously it wasn't hard the first time. They just need to get it right, by way of switching the proper models. Little kickstand boy (Imicus) is an ugly model. While the Maulus is much better by comparison, and wasted on frig EW which no one uses.
Dibsi Dei Salamyhkaisten kilta	Posted - 2009.07.20 14:03:00 - [8] Imicus and Probe > Maulus and Vigil tbh.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.07.20 22:38:00 - [9] What is it with people and this idiotic issue? It's a damned ship model. It looks a bit silly, but it's really not an issue. Insofar as it matters at all, it was a buff - you see how ugly the ship is, and it reminds you that the cloak is off. If you want to train ships based on how pretty they look, it's your own fault, and you can waste your time on anything you please. Me, I don't care what my invisible ship looks like, and I won't support anyone trying to get a dev to waste even a coffee break "fixing" it now that it's correct and implemented.
SEN 5243	Posted - 2009.07.21 11:12:00 - [10] The Imicus grows on you. Give it some time.
Marcus Gideon Gallente Federal Defense Operations	Posted - 2009.07.22 20:47:00 - [11] Originally by: SEN 5243 The Imicus grows on you. Give it some time. Just like the rest of the Gallente ships, which all resemble cancerous growths...
Orb Lati Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.22 22:27:00 - [12] A good thing about an ugly Covert Ops Frig model is that nobody else should see you flying in one. "We worship Strength because it is through strength that all other values are made possible"
Tortugan F9X	Posted - 2009.07.23 04:58:00 - [13] Supporting this thread means supporting a nerf to the Keres- the forgotten cousin of the Helios. Don't give Gallente EAF pilots yet another reason not to fly the thing ;D In all seriousness- quit whining about it. It's a covops ships, hence, you should never be seen. Not to mention, if you're that big of a graphics buff, cross train another race's covops- if it means enough to you to tell CCP to spend their time on it, why not spend some of yours, instead? ---- Need Mercenaries? Contact me in-game to hire Internal Anarchy. Killboard
Terra Mikael Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.07.23 05:52:00 - [14] Originally by: Tortugan Supporting this thread means supporting a nerf to the Keres- the forgotten cousin of the Helios. Don't give Gallente EAF pilots yet another reason not to fly the thing ;D Yeah, god forbid we use the same hull for 2,3 or more ships. that would be just laziness. ________________________________ Originally by: Lone Gunman Yes overpowered would be giving a ship with the Covert ops cloak the ability to fire say..Torpedos, now that would be overpowered. But CCP would
Zenhexzen	Posted - 2009.07.23 07:48:00 - [15]
Uronksur Suth Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.07.23 19:24:00 - [16]
Neriel Odershank	Posted - 2009.07.23 20:45:00 - [17] Supported forever! It's so easy: just swap t1 models ffs!!
Ezzr Goode Drugs 'R' Us	Posted - 2009.07.23 22:00:00 - [18] Hmm... does this work? Ezzr
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.07.23 22:07:00 - [19]
OV Marius Core Antum	Posted - 2009.07.23 23:12:00 - [20] Yes, please swap the Helios model back to the old one
Aniel Zaar Light of Orion	Posted - 2009.07.24 11:11:00 - [21] Supported. If CCP doesn't want duplicate models, just give the ugly model to the e-war frigate, who cares about those. -^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ By the way, I am an Ishtar and T2 sentries fan. Fight to make the sentry damage rig work for all drones.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.07.24 11:56:00 - [22] How good is that!? Personality & symmetry. Did the guy who modelled it commit suicide seeing the blob it's been turned into? All this talk of WiS and how ppl need avatars, garbage, just don't make the ships ugly.
Aedeas Gallente Veldspar Conglomerate CaLiARr Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.24 15:41:00 - [23] I have not flown my Helios since the model changed. ---------------------------------
Furb Killer	Posted - 2009.07.24 20:44:00 - [24] I want my old helios back :(
voogru Gallente Massive Damage United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2009.07.24 21:04:00 - [25] If somebody sees you flying in a CovOps, then you're not flying it right. Hate Farmers? Click Here
Burning Horizon The Federation Of Burnt Lasagna	Posted - 2009.07.24 21:58:00 - [26]
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.07.25 04:15:00 - [27] Originally by: voogru If somebody sees you flying in a CovOps, then you're not flying it right. When sitting cloaked for hours u can still zoom in and look at the outline of the pretty little antenna tho :-D It was a damn cool ship, probably the best looking in the game. I too haven't flown it since, think I trashed the one I had been flying.
Trustworthy Joe	Posted - 2009.07.25 05:24:00 - [28] agreed _______________________ with a name as trustworthy as mine, i cant POSSIBLY be an alt Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails <-- this is your brain on boosters
Rawr Cristina Liberi Fatalius Exalted.	Posted - 2009.07.25 09:50:00 - [29] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto What is it with people and this idiotic issue? It's a damned ship model. It looks a bit silly, but it's really not an issue. Typical achura response (damn uglies) Old Helios model was nothing short of sexy - Now I can't even bear to look at the thing Fortunately the number of people flying the things has plummeted since the change so I don't see them often, but would be nice if they didn't look like space poo. - Contagious -
Izo Alabaster Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company The Commission	Posted - 2009.07.25 11:31:00 - [30] If this proposed change went though, and Chribba was also allowed to bring his veld-titan into highsec, I believe that EVE would be the perfect game. (Also boost the Hyperion and fix logoffski mechanics)

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