The stations are in space.

Since you guys started talking about WiS, you guys said we would eventually be able to have and run establishments. Even though Nex Store is not all that appealing to me for a number of reasons. And CQ seems a bit of a disappointment with the amount of hype there was for it and the amount of time and resources we of the Eve community perceive you invested in it. I am kind of curious about establishments as are some other players, I am sure.

I do have a few questions that about establishments that would be nice to have answers for. And I can see that the Blues have become more chatty of lately. Which is a good thing, maybe we can get some questions answered.

Like what will we be able to do with them. Are they all just going to be bars or will we have some more options?

Will we be able to make them VIP access only, exclude people we don't like or make them special invite only. Or even Exclude an entire race if we feel like it?

How much control will we have over them? If you want a bigger space will there be different size options? Will we be able to control lighting, shape, size, atmosphere, look? The placement of furniture, items decoration? Will the look of establishments be racially diverse or even more diverse? Or are they going to be very cookie cutter?

Will you be able to have multiple rooms in your establishment or will they all be just one room? If so will I be able to make each room different form the others?

Will we be getting min-games? Like the one you guys talked about a while back, and even showed a demo for, SecWars? Will there be others?

What will be the draw of establishments, the unique thing that you can do there that you can't do anywhere else in EvE, that would justify the cost of setting one up and or visiting them?

Will I be able to have NPCs working for me in my establishment, if so how much control will I have over them? Will I be able to program what they say, how they act? Will I be able to write scripts of what they can say based on factors like race, sex? Whether or not I like them or not? Will I be able to control the NPCs look? Will I have to pay them a salary?

Will I be able to do something with my exotic dancers finally? Will I be able to have my dancers give dances for a fee?

Can I have a live band on stage? Jukebox? Will I be able to control the music in my establishment?

What will the costs be for an establishment? Will it be rent or purchasable? If rent, what will the rental cost be? Will it be monthly or yearly, or will there be rental options, with a discount for renting for a longer time?

What furniture options will there be, if any? What will the cost of furniture be like? Will we have to rent furniture? Or will we get to buy them?

Well there be different types of establishments with different cost associated with them depending on quality of the establishment?

Will there be a limited number of establishments in each station or will there be unlimited?

How will we pay for establishments? In Aurum? Isk? Both? What will the pricing be like something absurd like 1000000 Aurum or 100 Billion isk per month or something more reasonable?

Will CCP do a better job of releasing establishments than they did with the Nex store and CQ? Did you learn from your mistakes?

I don't think we're going to get them. Everyone complaining about how much they hate Incarna has given CCP a valid reason to not do **** development wise and just sit back and lolbugfix.

Maybe.

Since you guys started talking about WiS, you guys said we would eventually be able to have and run establishments. Even though Nex Store is not all that appealing to me for a number of reasons. And CQ seems a bit of a disappointment with the amount of hype there was for it and the amount of time and resources we of the Eve community perceive you invested in it. I am kind of curious about establishments as are some other players, I am sure. .......

........ Will CCP do a better job of releasing establishments than they did with the Nex store and CQ? Did you learn from your mistakes?

if CQ is already a problem for low hardware, how can this same hardware be able to render establishements ?

CCP will give us establishments, or at the very least some sort of multi-player environment. Their microtransaction model depends on the ability to see other avatars in real time.

The success of these areas will depend very much on the ability of the owner to proffit from them, since the measure of success in the game is capital gain. I would assume therefore that the establishment price, be it in Aurum or ISK, will follow a similar pricing scheme to corporate offices (which I have heard rumour will be implemented as physical spaces as well), in that heavily populated systems will cost more than low traffic areas.

I am also curious as to the furnishings. Will they be market items, placeable at will (good), or will they be "upgrades" to your establishment that you purchase and are automatically placed according to a template (bad).

Let's get some dev love on this so I can start scheming my next business failure...

we'll see drugs.

we'll see minigames, but as always, i bet they will only come later

we'll have some options to change the decorations, later of course

we may see special clothes created by players one day, but well seems utopia

but well honestly, i'm mostly scared that establishement are a total faillure, because before having issues with what we can do on them, i think lots of people will simply have issue being on them, do to FPS issues.
if CQ is already a problem for low hardware, how can this same hardware be able to render establishements ?

I have a feeling that CCP has not begun working on them or even thinking about the kind of questions your asking, which are excellent questions BTW.

QFT! The hardware requirements for a small room and one avatar are fairly ridiculous. And while many people have adequate hardware to render CQ as it exists, I doubt very few will have adequate hardware to render larger environments and dozens of avatars.

So, if CCP is developing WiS with the hope that the hardware will grow to accommodate the end required processing power, then we're looking at half a decade or more? True, there may be hardware capable of doing it sooner, but it's not going to make it to the masses of the Eve playerbase because a lot of people just won't/can't afford bleeding edge.

I am of the belief that part of the reason we see rendering, and processing power sky rocket is because of the CQ's balcony with the enormous expanse beyond it and the ship of some sort floating and spinning with its perspective changing as you get closer or further form it.

I would say that unique feature of CQ's is one of the reason there is an increase.

I am sure CCP has a plan is working on how to get more than one person in a room. They do have some experience with getting a 1000 or more people in spaceships shooting at each other. So they must have some idea of how to get a lesser number of people in an environment with avatars.

System requirements go up, over the evolution of an MMO if you want it to stay current and to continue. I hardly doubt you need bleeding edge tech, I don't have the most current up to day hardware and I don't really have much of a problem running CQ. Sure my comp works a little harder than it use to, but it does not work as hard as some more recent games I have placed.

I think some of you are just annoyed you won't be able to keep running Eve with your Pentium 486's.

My personal question is what exactly will entice a player to come to an establishment, such as a bar, other than just illegal trading. While things like dancers and minigames are nice I don't see these being the big-profit tickets that will attract the average player. If so what then will promote the Establishments to the average player, for example will they have a chance of attracting special more illegal mission givers, will the drinks they serve be like a booster below synth grade but easier to get in large quantities? Will there be an ability to disappear from local chat while out of the CQ / space?

In short I personally find establishments to provide the opportunity for a lot of fun, I just wonder how I, or others, can make enough profits to promote us to run them, and enough benefit to players to entice them to come to them.