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Jaxoff Onyu Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.07.21 19:30:00 - [1] It looks to me like power and CPU already limit ship setups enough to maintain 'balance' or whatever you want to call it. What would happen if all the non capital ships in Eve were given eight lows, eight meds, and eight highs? Would that totally ruin the game? All else being equal, attempting to fit more modules in any one row will require major sacrifices in the other two rows resulting in highly focused setups. That would at least allow for some very interesting confrontations. Can anyone think of a way that any non capital ship in the game right now could be fitted using all eight slots that would somehow make that ship too strong, too fast, too tough or somehow unfair? If not then the current slot limitations are applying an unnecessary limitation to overall gameplay. --- Never bring a pen to sword fight.
Izztyrr Maemtor Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.21 19:47:00 - [2] I love it when people with no clue make outlandish suggestions. How long have you been playing? Two weeks? A month? --- Never bring a sword to a gun fight.
Dansel Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.21 19:59:00 - [3] This is kinda lol. And it's a terrible idea, wont even bother explaining why, figure it out your self. ----------------- Yay!!
No Homo Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.21 21:49:00 - [4] 2/10 The 2 just for originality, I actually haven't seen this troll before.
Paul Clavet Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.07.22 04:46:00 - [5] WTB Rifter with 8x Warp Core Stabilizers WTB Incursus with passive shield tank WTB Slasher with 8x Nos ---- Suddenly Ninjas Blog: My Loot, Your Tears
FuzzyBunnyKiller	Posted - 2009.07.22 04:57:00 - [6] Originally by: No Homo 2/10 The 2 just for originality, I actually haven't seen this troll before. That makes it A ... successful troll
Dirtee Girl Rage of Inferno Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.07.22 06:13:00 - [7] ohhhh slOts ... nvm... * *
Jaxoff Onyu Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.07.23 15:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Paul Clavet WTB Rifter with 8x Warp Core Stabilizers WTB Incursus with passive shield tank WTB Slasher with 8x Nos I loled. Your WTB Rifter with 8x Warp Core Stabilizers With no bonuses, a Rifter only has 125 CPU. That limits you to 4 Stabs. But with Electronics lvl 5 and one Co-Processor II, you could fit 7 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I. My Rifter With no skills or Co-Processors, I could fit the same ship with 4 Warp Scrambler I and a Cold-Gas I ArcJet Thrusters AB. I'd also have plenty of low slots for Co-Processors so I'd still have all my guns and rocket launchers. Your WTB Incursus with passive shield tank Your Incursus only has 313 shield HP. That means, if you manage to raise all resistances to 80% before taking 500 damage from a cruiser, you're going to loose the shield in about 3 or 4 shots. It would be more effective to just max your shield HP by fitting 8 Micro F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction for a total of 1,217 HP. Not bad but,... My Incursus I only speed tank frigates- 4 overdrives, 4 inertial stabs, a 1MN MWD, and a small cap booster with cap booster 200. Max velocity around 2000m/s. That should be typical for all frigates,imho. Your WTB Slasher with 8x Nos Sure, with Engineering lvl 5 and 4 Micro Auxiliary Power Core I and a co-processor, you could fit 8 nos. But not much else. My Slasher A small projectile turret, two rocket launchers and a web. Just because you have 8 slots doesn't mean your always going to use them.
Irn Bruce	Posted - 2009.07.23 17:01:00 - [9] I recently posted a reply to a thread about character in Eve. The gist of it was that Eve is a role playing game, everythign in it should have character, even if a lot of people do just powergame and try to "win". Different types of modules go in different slots, meaning that different slot layouts (in conjunction with bonuses and CPU/PG amounts) encourage the player to fit ships in a characterful way. For example, Gallente tend to actively armor tank, so they tend to have a good amount of lows, and more mids than amarr, so they can fit cap boosters. Amarr passivley armor tank and make heavy use of logistics ships, along with excellent range on lasers meaning they don't need to move much. So they tend to have few mids and lots of lows, since they don't need to maintain their own cap stability so much, but they need a huge buffer. Even aside from this, a gank fit dominix with 8 highs, mids and lows could fit a BIG shield buffer, and do 2000 DPS. And the best way to fit nearly any ship would be to use as many fitting mods as you need to fit a huge shield buffer and a full rack of guns, then fit damage mods in the rest of the lows. It's definitely unbalanced.
Jaxoff Onyu Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.07.23 18:02:00 - [10] Originally by: Irn Bruce Different types of modules go in different slots, meaning that different slot layouts (in conjunction with bonuses and CPU/PG amounts) encourage the player to fit ships in a characterful way. Then the more slots, the more character. Limiting slot only limits character. Originally by: Irn Bruce And the best way to fit nearly any ship would be to use as many fitting mods as you need to fit a huge shield buffer and a full rack of guns, then fit damage mods in the rest of the lows. It's definitely unbalanced. I didn't say anything about maxing hardpoints. Natural imbalance already exists because of the differences in how ships are fitted. That wouldn't change, it would only be more characterful.
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.07.23 18:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Jaxoff Onyu It looks to me like power and CPU already limit ship setups enough to maintain 'balance' or whatever you want to call it. No. Even when a ship has enough CPU and PG is it important to limit the number of equipment that can be installed on a ship. And once you do change it to all 8s does the next one come asking for 9, 10, 11 and 12 slots. You need to have a better reason than that.
Jaxoff Onyu Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.07.23 18:59:00 - [12] Edited by: Jaxoff Onyu on 23/07/2009 19:05:14 Originally by: Whitehound Even when a ship has enough CPU and PG is it important to limit the number of equipment that can be installed on a ship. Why? Originally by: Whitehound And once you do change it to all 8s does the next one come asking for 9, 10, 11 and 12 slots. You need to have a better reason than that. No, the client cannot support more than 8 slots in each row. My point is that there's no good reason to have less than 8 slots in the first place. More slots means better setups, there is no better reason then that.
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.07.23 19:26:00 - [13] Edited by: Whitehound on 23/07/2009 19:28:16 Originally by: Jaxoff Onyu Why? Because not all ships have the same size and were not designed for the same purpose. They also cost different amounts of ISK and need different amounts of resources to build them.
Lork Niffle Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.24 11:10:00 - [14] This will be a balancing nightmare. Not every computer has 4 VGA/DVI slots for 8 monitor support. Not all PCs have 16 USB slots or even firewire right? /thread? ------------------------------------- Read my bio ingame for tips on how to live and not be called nasty names by me.
Ydyp Ieva Caldari Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2009.07.24 12:01:00 - [15] whoa with this idea I can fit an awesome tank on that ORCA, 4 tractors and 4 salvagers. GIVE ME (not!) ---------------------------------- None of yet!
Jaxoff Onyu Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.07.24 13:57:00 - [16] Edited by: Jaxoff Onyu on 24/07/2009 13:57:09 Originally by: Ydyp Ieva whoa with this idea I can fit an awesome tank on that ORCA, 4 tractors and 4 salvagers. GIVE ME! Ya, that's what I'm talking about! Now how would that unbalance anything? --- Never bring a gun to a missile fight.
Jaxoff Onyu Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.07.24 14:00:00 - [17] Originally by: Lork Niffle This will be a balancing nightmare. Not every computer has 4 VGA/DVI slots for 8 monitor support. Not all PCs have 16 USB slots or even firewire right? /thread? But you can add them. And all pc support addons. PC slots are more like ship modules than ship slots. --- Never bring a gun to a missile fight.

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