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Brogutor Rage
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Posted - 2003.06.22 16:54:00 -
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Moo, if anyone actually plays this game then everyone knows about them and what they do. Question, isn't being a pirate a playable aspect of this game? Is this game not a RPG? Being that YES it is, why can't someone Role Play however he/she felt? I know if I had enough money and time put into a (Yes 1) character I would probably take a shot at being an annoying pirate. As many do, pirates have their reasons for being the way they are granted some people go a little over board... But Moo aren't the only pirates out there. So if all of this is allowed why is just the Moo Corp being involved in conversations about banning them from their accounts? I've seen worse people than Moo. Please clear this up for me, MAYBE I'm missing something that their doing in paticular... But as far as I know everything was supposed to be free game and they are taking advantage of it... SO What?
Edited by: Brogutor Rage on 22/06/2003 17:27:12
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.06.22 17:11:00 -
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how about you actually read the forums instead of making a new thread so everyone can tell you what m0o does?
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.06.22 17:13:00 -
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Well before some mod moves in to lock the thread, I'll answer.
The short story is people encountered a challenge that they can't fly past, shoot through or trick with stupid tactics that work on mindless NPCs. And they don't like it.
The only thing questionable about MOo's actions is the cargo pod issue. Having camped a gate for the pirates that spawn there, I can easily see someone not giving a damn about collecting the canisters. I actually do collect the canisters and still they begin to pile up.
If you remove the canister arguement, you're left with a group of players more powerful than most people doing whatever they want. Because they're more powerful than most people and they prey on those less powerful, people will remain upset with MOo. They will attempt to justify their removal through any means necessary, whether or not it's valid. Despite knowing full well that Eve has a very strong PvP element that only discourages (not prevents nor restricts) attacks on other players, they apparently believed that they would be left alone throughout their existance in Eve. Only engaging in PvP if they wanted to. That was way off the mark.
The people demanding MOo's removal need to remember something very important:
Based on the information we, the playerbase, CCP has not declared MOo to be doing anything wrong. Given the length of time since they began their blockade strategies an immediate ban would be inappropriate, bordering on grossly unfair. According to their own knowledgebase bans are only issued after repeated warnings have gone unheeded or the situation is serious enough to merit such final action. To our knowledge MOo has never been warned, removing the repeated warnings possibilities. And obviously the situation isn't serious enough as it has gone on for 2-3 weeks now.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Brogutor Rage
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Posted - 2003.06.22 17:23:00 -
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Homo Erectis this isn't JUST about MOo, but about all the other Pirates, or MOo wanna be's. So STFU before you open your mouth and take a second to read what I'm saying... AND YES I have read endless amounts of the MOo posts. Anyway.
So why don't players ban together to form at the very least a quick alliance between Corps and strangers to fight agianst MOo.
I for one don't care, I have seen MOo on many occasions and they just pass by. Now the others, the wanna be's I see as being 10x's more annoying than MOo. Doing annoying things like attacking Cruisers in low level frigates or attacking miners, list goes on.
So all these people that complain about MOo or anyother pirate Corps out there... Why don't YOU start a war path and create the enviroment you want, or some of you expect CCP to make for you. Just get mass people to keep killing the major problem people out there and gain money in the process. Just a thought.
Edited by: Brogutor Rage on 22/06/2003 17:25:22 |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.06.22 17:28:00 -
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the answers to every question you asked are all on the first page.
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funny girl
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Posted - 2003.06.22 17:38:00 -
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As of now, most of the problems revolve around them using exploits with canisters that the developers have said are exploits.
But I don't see that much complaining about pirates since they've recieved the big nerf bat.
Most of the complaining occurred before the GMs stepped in. The so called pirates were trying to justify their actions of killing countless people mindlessly by saying they were roleplaying. Luckily the GMs stepped in and now they are relegated to trying to defend their tarnished image on these message boards.
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Arcanus
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Posted - 2003.06.22 17:40:00 -
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most of the problems revolve around them using exploits with canisters that the developers have said are exploits
As far as I'm aware, CCP has classified it a "questionable tactic".
If it was an exploit, they would have been banned already.
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funny girl
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Posted - 2003.06.22 17:53:00 -
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You can play the semantics game all day, but last time the pirates didn't listen to the GMs warning they got their butts handed to them and nerfed to the point where they can't play, then they all run over here to whine about it. Those who do not learn from the past are destined to repeat it, and since we have seen the intelligence level of most of these pirates, I would think we will see the problem work itself out as they get themselves deleted.
Edited by: funny girl on 22/06/2003 17:57:19
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Arcanus
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Posted - 2003.06.22 18:37:00 -
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"I would think we will see the problem work itself out as they get themselves deleted."
And yet, none of them have gotten themselves deleted.
CCP is aware of the m0o, that's plainly obvious, given their actions of late. They know what m0o do. They know how m0o do it.
And yet, though actions have been taken by CCP to break their blockades (Wholly prompted by the userbase being too scared/lazy to resolve the problem themselves), none of m0o have been banned.
What does that tell you about the way CCP judges their actions?
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.06.22 19:00:00 -
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<< You can play the semantics game all day, but last time the pirates didn't listen to the GMs warning they got their butts handed to them and nerfed to the point where they can't play, then they all run over here to whine about it. >>
It's not semantics. The penalty for exploiting according to the terms set by CCP is warning for minor offenses, followed by suspension for ignoring the warning or more serious offenses, followed by banning for continuing after suspension or most serious offenses. CCP reserves the right to skip straight to banning if the exploit is deemed serious enough.
Nowhere does it state the penalty for exploiting is GMs show up in battleships to destroy you. Given what has happened and how long it has been going on, either CCP deems this canister issue to rank below "minor". Or you are attempting to declare something an exploit when you do not have the authority to do so.
CCP has that authority and has not declared any of MOo's actions an exploit to date.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
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