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Reprimander
Failswarm
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Posted - 2009.07.23 17:09:00 -
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I was trying out various fits of this ship, and its a tricky one, since I felt that it didn't really 'suit' lasers all that well. It's not a harby, and lacks the DPS and 4 mids which make the harby work.
So I tried to think of how to make it effective, in a way that would work and might also suprise people. This fit really does work, I tried it out in lowsec and got quite a few kills.
I will explain how the fit works below...
[Prophecy, Arty/Nano] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
10MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Booster II
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Hobgoblin II x5
This is a lowsec hunting ship. You locate your prey in a belt (Battleship for example), and enter orbit with the AB at around 20km.
Your drones and arties will be doing about 300DPS, more than enough to grind them down. As you orbit, they wont be able to track you. The only problem is drones, but pulses on the shield booster will stop you being killed by drones. Cap shouldn't be a problem.
really nice ship and agile too!
(the medium neut is just for emergencies, like if a frigate tackles you and you need to get away) |

AstroPhobic
Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2009.07.23 17:14:00 -
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Why is this better than a vexor or arbitrator?  |

Reprimander
Failswarm
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Posted - 2009.07.23 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Why is this better than a vexor or arbitrator? 
well for a start, people just kill the drones on those things, and also much less EHP/cap etc, less DPS overall etc
and people also dont expect people to pirate in a prophecy, which makes it successful - arbys and vexors, everyone expects it |

Kaileen Starsong
Amarr Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.07.23 17:21:00 -
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6xNeutrons, 1xHAM MWD, scram/web(named) DC, 800mm RT, ANP, 3xMFS
Drones Trimarks(better not )
Enjoy your ~650 DPS Prophecy  |

Ichandasil
Minmatar Department of Defence
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Posted - 2009.07.23 20:06:00 -
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Yes, let's shield tank a ship that gets armor resist bonuses. If you want a nano-bc pick a Hurricane, much better at it with much more DPS.
I pvp in low-sec with a Prophecy but I do it with AC's an dual med armor reps, works ok, best thing is that it can tank station/gate guns for quite a while. I believe your setup cannot. |

Zal Dakkar
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Posted - 2009.07.23 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander I was trying out various fits of this ship, and its a tricky one, since I felt that it didn't really 'suit' lasers all that well. It's not a harby, and lacks the DPS and 4 mids which make the harby work.
So I tried to think of how to make it effective, in a way that would work and might also suprise people. This fit really does work, I tried it out in lowsec and got quite a few kills.
I will explain how the fit works below...
[Prophecy, Arty/Nano] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
10MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Booster II
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Hobgoblin II x5
This is a lowsec hunting ship. You locate your prey in a belt (Battleship for example), and enter orbit with the AB at around 20km.
Your drones and arties will be doing about 300DPS, more than enough to grind them down. As you orbit, they wont be able to track you. The only problem is drones, but pulses on the shield booster will stop you being killed by drones. Cap shouldn't be a problem.
really nice ship and agile too!
(the medium neut is just for emergencies, like if a frigate tackles you and you need to get away)
This fit is absolutely terrible. Orbit at 20km? haha... you will definitely lose any prey that has a mwd. And if you wanted to nano fit... why use the low friction nozzle joints and not use the nanofibers in the lows? What a waste of rigs. |

SuiJuris
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Posted - 2009.07.23 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ichandasil Yes, let's shield tank a ship that gets armor resist bonuses. If you want a nano-bc pick a Hurricane, much better at it with much more DPS.
I pvp in low-sec with a Prophecy but I do it with AC's an dual med armor reps, works ok, best thing is that it can tank station/gate guns for quite a while. I believe your setup cannot.
I Prefer Small Pulse lasers to Medium Autocannons, Better tracking and Very comparable damage. Look at putting some Medium Pulse Lasers II's on your Proph the range with scorch is a little past 11km optimal then like a 2-3km falloff. This also leaves you with loads of grid for plates. |

Wideen
Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.07.24 03:41:00 -
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this is a trick question yeah? |

Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.07.24 04:07:00 -
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With the harb being the damage dealer bc the proph has been relegated to the budget commandship role. Something it does quite well I would say. 142k ehp omnitank buffer that is 100% insurable. Any gang can afford to have a nice boost to the armour buffer with one of these.
[Prophecy, Budget Commandship] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Warp Disruptor II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor S 280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor S 280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor S 280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor S 280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor S 280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor S Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Warrior II x5
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.07.24 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kaileen Starsong 6xNeutrons, 1xHAM MWD, scram/web(named) DC, 800mm RT, ANP, 3xMFS
Drones Trimarks(better not )
Enjoy your ~650 DPS Prophecy 
This kind of thing really works 
Ions fits with a 1600. |
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Reprimander
Failswarm
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Posted - 2009.07.24 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zal Dakkar
This fit is absolutely terrible. Orbit at 20km? haha... you will definitely lose any prey that has a mwd. And if you wanted to nano fit... why use the low friction nozzle joints and not use the nanofibers in the lows? What a waste of rigs.
Why would I want to use nano's which stack against the low friction rigs?
anyway
the ship does work
this speaks for itself
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2009.07.24 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Zal Dakkar
This fit is absolutely terrible. Orbit at 20km? haha... you will definitely lose any prey that has a mwd. And if you wanted to nano fit... why use the low friction nozzle joints and not use the nanofibers in the lows? What a waste of rigs.
Why would I want to use nano's which stack against the low friction rigs?
anyway
the ship does work
this speaks for itself
So you think its a good ship because you managed to kill a failfit ratting CNR that was using torps without a single target painter? --- It's like my mom always said... "I knew I should of drowned that one." |

Duke Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.07.24 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander
Originally by: Zal Dakkar
This fit is absolutely terrible. Orbit at 20km? haha... you will definitely lose any prey that has a mwd. And if you wanted to nano fit... why use the low friction nozzle joints and not use the nanofibers in the lows? What a waste of rigs.
Why would I want to use nano's which stack against the low friction rigs?
anyway
the ship does work
this speaks for itself
It's almost poetic, a fail ship can still beat another ship as long as the other ship is even more fail.
Fail is relative my friend.
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achoura
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Posted - 2009.07.24 20:27:00 -
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R. Click, reprocess.
Use blasters/ac. Although stickly speaking it does lasers very well, once you realise they have better range, tracking and cap use that hybrids. Still, if rigs drop even half way to what ccp wants it may get a new lease of life. ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |

Kirzath
Sinister Elite Raining Doom
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Posted - 2009.07.24 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Reprimander this speaks for itself
Siege launchers using Cruise missiles, does not compute.
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me0de
Holographic Universe
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Posted - 2009.07.24 21:49:00 -
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Killmail is legit~~~
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.07.24 23:22:00 -
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i did solo a titan in my imaginary raven
"Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time" |
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CCP Navigator
C C P

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Posted - 2009.07.25 12:05:00 -
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Nai Weil
Caldari Tupperware Party Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.07.25 12:14:00 -
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I used this for Sansha ratting with some pretty happy results.
6 x Heavy Pulse Laser II 1 x Salvager
1 x 10MN MWD 1 x Langour web 1 x Medium Capacitor Booster II (800, although 400 will do)
2 x Heat Sink II 1 x Energized Reflective Plating II 1 x Energized Thermal Plating II 1 x Damage Control II 1 x Small Armour Repairer II
5 x Hobgoblins II
Gives me over 380 dps. The tank lasts more than enough to take out 3 battleship spawns, and the SAR lets you slowly heal up during and after the fight. Orbit at 5km, unleash drones, web and let loose with multifrequencies.
For roaming gangs, I swap out the SAR for a 3rd heat sink, the two Energized platings for an EANM II and an Adaptive Nano Plating II, and occasionally, the Cap Booster for a point (depending on whether we have enough tacklers in the team). It's a really effective ship. Not as good as the Harbinger, of course, but if you compare you'll have very little reason to fly Prophecy. It's a decent ship, and one you shouldn't be ashamed of to fly.
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Salen Kane
Amarr Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Blade.
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Posted - 2009.07.25 14:27:00 -
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Yeah, bet you really kicked those badgers and 2 months old cruiser pilots around, champ!
I can see the argument that catching people off guard would warrant using a sub-optimal setup. However, anyone who is foolish enough to be killed by this abomination is unlikely to even know that prophecies are usually not used for PvP, thus negating the one advantage this setup might have.
The proph may not be a harbinger, but is sure isn't a cyclone either. This thing fails harder than Faily McFail at the fail faire in Faluire, Florida. Real men dont kiss and tell, we **** and exaggerate!
That's not a titan, its the flying **** I dont give about your opinions. |
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.07.25 18:20:00 -
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armor tank it and fit up blasters.
Important Internet Spaceship League Wants You |

Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.07.26 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous armor tank it and fit up blasters.
This
also dual webs, no propulsion mod, and baiting frigs/assualt frigs to come into web range might work (I've heard of it being done with a maller, and the prophesy is just a bigger maller). ---
≡√≡ Don't harsh my mellow |
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