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CroakU	Posted - 2009.07.23 20:38:00 - [1] Hi guys, i just want to ask how good is pilgrim at solo pvp atm? Can he take bses, bc which are ratting now?
Duke Starbuckington	Posted - 2009.07.23 20:41:00 - [2]
Kesper North Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire	Posted - 2009.07.23 20:52:00 - [3] Possible but if you make even one mistake you will die. Also it better be a ship that needs cap to fire like an Apoc or a Megathron. And make sure he has full aggro from a big BS spawn.
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.07.23 20:52:00 - [4] It's pretty damn good.
5pinDizzy Amarr SMS Fleet Services	Posted - 2009.07.23 20:56:00 - [5] Some people say it's a sucky ship and I could see why they'd say that. But in my opinion it's one of the most dangerous solo ships around with a cov ops cloak as it has pretty good offensive and defensive capabilities for a ship class that's traditionally a weak ship hiding behind strong electronic capabilities.
CroakU	Posted - 2009.07.23 20:58:00 - [6] Any more opinions?
5pinDizzy Amarr SMS Fleet Services	Posted - 2009.07.23 21:06:00 - [7] I would say it can talk on a battleship for sure if it uses it's strengths to get under the the battleships defences and it's hurt other cruisers. However I would avoid battlecruisers and hac's and tech 3's though. I would also avoid interceptors as it doesnt have massive neut/nos range like a curse.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.07.23 21:07:00 - [8] Best solo recon there is.
AbeFR0MAN	Posted - 2009.07.23 21:29:00 - [9] Stay away from anything that might be using missiles, they will ruin your day. I have found that the pilgrim works best like said above, make sure you attack when they are least expecting it and when the target has full aggro. I have found myself waiting for a few hours just for my target to get aggro from a triple bs spawn. it helps ALOT. Best to wait untill you see the armor rep or shield booster going. That way you know they are already using cap and taking damage. Alot of people dont like the pilgrim due to its range as it is a little close. But that is why you have a very nice tracking disrupter bonus. I dont know about you guys, but if im ratting in an apoc or something and a pilgrim uncloaks right next to me im going to start swearing. Friend of mine killed an abaddon about a week ago. kinda scrub fit but meh.
Wideen Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.07.23 21:44:00 - [10] I must say I'm a bit disappointed when it comes to the pilgrim. It looked very nice on paper but when it comes down to is you need to be up close and personal in a ship that has a crappy tank (if you think I'm wrong about this pls show me a good way to do it in a setup that's feasible because I can't see it). I guess it only works if you RLY pick your targets well which I suppose is ships you could kill in any other ship. Guess the cov ops cloak is its strongest part, the curse just outshines it in every way imo (since they cost as much...)
Mystical Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.23 21:57:00 - [11] Avoid missile boats and you will own...
Vim Spook Division	Posted - 2009.07.23 22:12:00 - [12] [Pilgrim, Arrr] Medium Armor Repairer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Thermic Plating II 10MN Afterburner II Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I Warp Disruptor II Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Ancillary Current Router I I like it, its slow, but I like it.
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2009.07.23 22:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Wideen (if you think I'm wrong about this pls show me a good way to do it in a setup that's feasible because I can't see it). I found this fit on these here forums, and it seems to have as solid a tank as any T2 cruiser with 5 low slots can have. [Pilgrim, solo] Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Covert Ops Cloak II 10MN Afterburner II Balmer Series Tracking Distruptor Balmer Series Tracking Distruptor Medium Elecrochemical Capacitor Booster Warp Scrambler II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plate Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II Egress Port Maximizer I Egress Port Maximizer I Needs a 1% CPU implant, or replace one of the T2 modules for a faction-something. One Amarr Navy EANM will do it. Of course, you can swap the egress ports for trimarks to get more tank, but it seems unnecessary.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2009.07.23 22:20:00 - [14] Great ship but a raven, cerb, or drake, etc = death
Misina Arlath Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.24 10:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Wideen (if you think I'm wrong about this pls show me a good way to do it in a setup that's feasible because I can't see it). Pilgrim tank (and Curse/Arby as well for that matter) is tracking disruptors. Fly under the guns is the key, hence why people are saying avoid missile boats (since missiles obviously are unaffected by turret disruption). Also other droneboats can be a challenge since you need to micro-manage drone-vs-drone fighting and whoever runs out of drones first will be screwed. I've flown Arbitrator alot before I hopped into Curse/Pilgrim, and only real tank I've ever had was the disruptors. I never bothered with neuts on the Arby though, and rather fitted missiles/turrets. In a Curse though I've done alot better, but again, I only use disruptors as defense, and neuts to shut down other ships. Came out on-top in a fight against an Apoc, Omen and Punisher once :) Neut/scramble apoc, disrupt Omen, disrupt Punisher. Let drones eat up Punisher then chase off Omen with drones. Was a fun fight, but kinda meh opponents :) The Apoc died at least ^^ Couldn't have done that with Pilgrim really. Once I drained the Apoc I could focus med-neuts on Puni and Omen thanks to huge range. I should really fly my Pilgrim more though. It's a great ship, but it's very situational when you can/should engage another ship. Also, the drawback with the Arby/Curse/Pilgrim is the drone DPS being fairly low in comparison to other T2 ships, so once committed you need a bit of time to destroy an opponent, especially larger ships such as BC's and BS's. Quite often you don't have a large window of opportunity to finish off larger ships before they get reinforced by corpies or friends. Anyways, to answer the question, disruptor is your friend :) --------------------------------------------------
Ace Secunda Aperture Harmonics	Posted - 2009.07.24 16:44:00 - [16] 3 x Med Neut II 1 x Cov Ops cLoak 1 x 10mn MWD II 1 x Med Cap Booster II - 400's 1 x Scrambler II 1 x Webber II 1 x Cap Recharger II 1 x Med Repper 1 x True Sansha Energized Thermic 1 x EANM II 1 x DC 1 x Adaptive Plating II 2 x Egress Port Maximiser Rigs 7 x Hammerheads II's 8 x Valkyrie II's Creep up really close and then BAM, suck em dry and let the drones work, resists should keep damage low when orbiting at 500m. 'If I can't blow it up It don't exsist'
ShadowGod56	Posted - 2009.07.24 20:19:00 - [17] Originally by: Ace Secunda 3 x Med Neut II 1 x Cov Ops cLoak 1 x 10mn MWD II 1 x Med Cap Booster II - 400's 1 x Scrambler II 1 x Webber II 1 x Cap Recharger II 1 x Med Repper 1 x True Sansha Energized Thermic 1 x EANM II 1 x DC 1 x Adaptive Plating II 2 x Egress Port Maximiser Rigs 7 x Hammerheads II's 8 x Valkyrie II's Creep up really close and then BAM, suck em dry and let the drones work, resists should keep damage low when orbiting at 500m. you seem to be missing something rather important in that setup...
Pinciukas	Posted - 2009.07.24 20:47:00 - [18] I think its not a good idea to fit 3x med neuts.. 1x med and 2x small sounds better for me.
Kumi Verdai	Posted - 2009.07.24 23:46:00 - [19] Train...recons...5. You have NO idea how much easier it makes life to free up all that CPU. ATM, I am liking: 1x Med Neut II 2x Med Nos II (Can fit small neuts though if you aren't going to go after anything that moves fast and can stay out of your range) 1x Cov Ops Cloak 1x 10mn MWD II 1x Scram 2x Balmer Tracking Disruptors 1x Med Cap Injector 1x Suitcase 1x Med Armor Rep II 3x EANM II 1-2x Egress Port Maximizer 0-1x Anti Thermic Pump Works nicely with a set of LG Talismans. Flame away.
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.25 01:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Kesper North Possible but if you make even one mistake you will die. Also it better be a ship that needs cap to fire like an Apoc or a Megathron. And make sure he has full aggro from a big BS spawn. Um. No. Make sure he shoots with turrets and needs cap to tank. You should be using a TD anyway, so it doesn't matter if he uses projectiles. --

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