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Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.07.25 09:58:00 - [1] I don't know if this should go in the skills section or the marketing one. I guess either is filled with people who'd know :) The Marketing skill says: "Skill at selling items remotely. Each level increases the range from the seller to the item being sold. Level 1 allows for the sale of items within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for sale of items located anywhere within current region." Am I right in thinking, then, that at level 4: Level 1: Solar system Level 2: 5 jumps Level 3: 10 jumps Level 4: 20 jumps Level 5: Region I'd have access to 20 jumps? If so, is that enough to cover any region in Eve? Are there any that are more than 20 jumps from any two points within that region? --
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.07.25 10:02:00 - [2] 20 jumps is more than enough for most regions. FREE! jumpclone service: Forum thread\|Podlog
Chu Ran Caldari Heavy Influence Atropos.	Posted - 2009.07.25 16:42:00 - [3] To answer your question, Ralara, there are definitely regions where two systems could be separated by more than 20 jumps. They are mainly 0.0 regions from my experience. However, even in those regions, if you set yourself up somewhere in the middle of the region, you can effectively cover the entire region (since you can reach 20 jumps in all directions, making it a 40 jump diameter area of effect).
Feisty Kitten	Posted - 2009.07.25 16:44:00 - [4] Originally by: Ralara I don't know if this should go in the skills section or the marketing one. I guess either is filled with people who'd know :) The Marketing skill says: "Skill at selling items remotely. Each level increases the range from the seller to the item being sold. Level 1 allows for the sale of items within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for sale of items located anywhere within current region." Am I right in thinking, then, that at level 4: Level 1: Solar system Level 2: 5 jumps Level 3: 10 jumps Level 4: 20 jumps Level 5: Region I'd have access to 20 jumps? If so, is that enough to cover any region in Eve? Are there any that are more than 20 jumps from any two points within that region? Domain has literally 90 systems or something...so no it isnt enough.
Varo Jan Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.25 16:56:00 - [5] Originally by: Feisty Kitten Domain has literally 90 systems or something...so no it isnt enough. So? Count the number of jumps from, say, Domain to the furthest systems. I¦m pretty sure they¦re all no more than 20 jumps away from Domain.
Feisty Kitten	Posted - 2009.07.26 04:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Varo Jan Originally by: Feisty Kitten Domain has literally 90 systems or something...so no it isnt enough. So? Count the number of jumps from, say, Domain to the furthest systems. I¦m pretty sure they¦re all no more than 20 jumps away from Domain. from one entry system, to the farthest system from it...is > 20 jumps. You're an idiot to think otherwise. Look at the Ombey map, and then come back and tell me that you are within 20 jumps of any system you need to be in domain. Its not possible, idiot.
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.07.31 09:02:00 - [7] Originally by: Feisty Kitten Originally by: Varo Jan Originally by: Feisty Kitten Domain has literally 90 systems or something...so no it isnt enough. So? Count the number of jumps from, say, Domain to the furthest systems. I¦m pretty sure they¦re all no more than 20 jumps away from Domain. from one entry system, to the farthest system from it...is > 20 jumps. You're an idiot to think otherwise. Look at the Ombey map, and then come back and tell me that you are within 20 jumps of any system you need to be in domain. Its not possible, idiot. However you can sit in the middle of Domain and you would be within 20 jumps of every system? --
Elenos	Posted - 2009.07.31 09:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Feisty Kitten Originally by: Varo Jan Originally by: Feisty Kitten idiot. loving the unnecessary personal attack.
Trefnis Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.07.31 10:02:00 - [9] Originally by: Ralara However you can sit in the middle of Domain and you would be within 20 jumps of every system? Yes mate unless you dont want to stick to one region with your trader its good to have it to lvl 5, you can the sit on the edge of 2-3 regions and from there doing 2 jumps cover whole 3 regions believe me you dont want to travel to the centre of each to do it
Roguehalo Caldari RH Ship Brokers	Posted - 2009.07.31 10:20:00 - [10] By finding agents near the centre of my region I've managed with lvl3 so far. I occasionally do a 1 jump hop to list stuff 11 jumps away.
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.07.31 15:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Trefnis Originally by: Ralara However you can sit in the middle of Domain and you would be within 20 jumps of every system? Yes mate unless you dont want to stick to one region with your trader its good to have it to lvl 5, you can the sit on the edge of 2-3 regions and from there doing 2 jumps cover whole 3 regions believe me you dont want to travel to the centre of each to do it I have enough market alts to do it :) --
lacretia	Posted - 2009.07.31 15:51:00 - [12] Do purchase orders jump regions? i.e. if Is et a buy order at station A will it purchase things in another region if it is only 2 jumps away, or are region borders the ultimate border of all sales activities?
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.07.31 19:56:00 - [13] Originally by: lacretia region borders the ultimate border of all sales activities? That. FREE! jumpclone service: Forum thread\|Podlog
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2009.07.31 23:45:00 - [14] I wish Dr Fish had have released that code to calculate this. An old old old thread sort out very question - Are is there any region, that you can not place a 20 jump order and not have it cover the entire regions stations? In highsec - No In 0.0 - Maybe but probably not any more. The Market cares about Regional lines ONLY FOR THE ORDER ITSELF. Traveling has no bearing on it what so ever. Two systems could be 20 jumps apart from each other if confined the travel to JUST that region, however Market cares not for this, for it literally takes the absoulte shortest travel possible reguarldess of the security of the system. To get from point A to Point B, and you have a choice of 40 jumps though that region of 3 jumps though 0.0 space, the market sees that station is just 4 jumps away. In fact, in Domain, you can place a order at a station 4 jumps from Amarr, with a range of 10 jump, and have it cover ~90% of the Highsec only stations in Domain, with NO low sec systems in that range. The Forge is like this as well, however this was done long before "Need for Speed" and regional remapping so that's probably changed now. Amarr for Life
Sharpclaw Caldari Precision Collision ISK Six	Posted - 2009.08.01 05:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: lacretia region borders the ultimate border of all sales activities? That. Wrong. If you place a 10 jump order in a region, and it can go through a different region and back into your region in another area then it will. I used to place 5 jump orders in southern Citadel and a guy in Muvo (west part of Cit) would place 10 jump orders and his order would reach through Forge and cover a lot of systems in southern Cit as well. (directions based on Ombey map)
Estel Arador Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services	Posted - 2009.08.01 08:04:00 - [16] Originally by: Sharpclaw Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: lacretia region borders the ultimate border of all sales activities? That. Wrong. FYI, the question was "will it purchase things in another region (...), or are region borders the ultimate border of all sales activities?". Given that he was talking about purchasing in another region, the region border is the 'ultimate' border. FREE jumpclone service: Thread\|Podlog
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2009.08.02 05:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Feisty Kitten Look at the Ombey map, and then come back and tell me that you are within 20 jumps of any system you need to be in domain. Its not possible, idiot. Number of jumps is calculated as travel jumps, and can include jumps into other regions, so Region A System A, Region B System C, Region A System B, would be two jumps, even if it's 30 jumps if you stayed only within Region A. Now tell me it's worth having the visibility skill trained to level 5 ;) Obviously buy orders and the ability to sell don't flow into those other regions, however for 'number of jumps' they're still taken into account.

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