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Trustworthy Joe	Posted - 2009.07.26 23:58:00 - [31] honestly the best country imo is iceland, greenland, or the Falklands. why? small populations low temperatures fishing abundance the trick is to contain before rebuilding. should you try to make a new city, even just 1 zombie can take it down. _______________________ with a name as trustworthy as mine, i cant POSSIBLY be an alt Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails <-- this is your brain on boosters
WheatGrass Gallente Silent but Friendly	Posted - 2009.07.27 00:09:00 - [32] The best country to live in is the one we build in cyberspace. Why else would I play Eve so much? My town in Northeastern Arizona is already infested. I guess the official word though is inebriates rather than zombies. To me there's no practical difference and weekends are the worst. I prefer to just hide out in my man cave until they dissipate at the start of the work week.
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2009.07.27 01:55:00 - [33] This is my kind of topic! Firstly, make sure you have other survivors. If you are alone you are as good as dead. Forget melee weapons!!! You don't want to get that close. If one zombie gets his hands on your sword arm you are done for! Any melee weapon capable of decapitating a zombie is also very slow. The movies have romanticized the katana especially. It's a very heavy two-handed sword designed to penetrate armor. A zombie will come straight at you with arms stretched out towards you. They don't give you a clean shot at the neck. For weapons you want big guns with big slow bullets. You want your shots to take out a chunk of the zombie. You don't want a high speed round that goes in and out unnoticed. Not every shot is going to be a head shot. But your best weapon is your brain. Zombies have a number of weaknesses that you can exploit. They are dumb. A zombie will fall for even the simplest of traps and ploys. They lack motor skills. Things like nets, ladders, oil slicks, barbwire, pits, barbed ground spikes and trip wires will cause big problems for the clumsy bastards. While living in a cold place means zombies could freeze solid and become a non-issue the same applies to you. There's more to be concerned about when it comes to surviving the zombie apocalypse than just the zombies you know. The best place to go would be a small farming island. Farms have food and can make more. Islands have fish and with a much lower population and an end to commercial fishing you'll have increasing fish numbers. The population will be low and being an island means a set number of zombies to deal with and it is highly probable that the island has many other survivors when you consider how far away people live from their neighbors. But an island in which country? I would opt for Japan. +Lots of rice. Rice keeps for a long time. More then enough time for you to figure out how to grow it. +Japan is a relatively wealthy country so even a small island will be well supplied. +The weather in Japan is not so brutal as to add to your survival problems. +The Japanese are fairly docile and work well in groups. You won't have renegades putting everyone's life at risk by doing stupid stuff. If you lead, they will follow. -Few guns... very few guns. All you are likely to find will be a few pistols and shotguns at the local police station. -Japanese buildings are designed to be easily replaced in case of an earthquake. This means really weak buildings. If the place you set up in is swarmed the zombies might just break through the walls. But more likely they will break through the sliding glass front door.
Jack Airron Gallente Setenta Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.07.27 03:33:00 - [34] Originally by: Trustworthy Joe honestly the best country imo is iceland, greenland, or the Falklands. why? small populations low temperatures fishing abundance the trick is to contain before rebuilding. should you try to make a new city, even just 1 zombie can take it down. how are you going to find all the frozen zombies when makeing your new city?
Jack Airron Gallente Setenta Corp Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.07.27 03:36:00 - [35] Originally by: Mr Reeth This is my kind of topic! Firstly, make sure you have other survivors. If you are alone you are as good as dead. Forget melee weapons!!! You don't want to get that close. If one zombie gets his hands on your sword arm you are done for! Any melee weapon capable of decapitating a zombie is also very slow. The movies have romanticized the katana especially. It's a very heavy two-handed sword designed to penetrate armor. A zombie will come straight at you with arms stretched out towards you. They don't give you a clean shot at the neck. For weapons you want big guns with big slow bullets. You want your shots to take out a chunk of the zombie. You don't want a high speed round that goes in and out unnoticed. Not every shot is going to be a head shot. But your best weapon is your brain. Zombies have a number of weaknesses that you can exploit. They are dumb. A zombie will fall for even the simplest of traps and ploys. They lack motor skills. Things like nets, ladders, oil slicks, barbwire, pits, barbed ground spikes and trip wires will cause big problems for the clumsy bastards. While living in a cold place means zombies could freeze solid and become a non-issue the same applies to you. There's more to be concerned about when it comes to surviving the zombie apocalypse than just the zombies you know. The best place to go would be a small farming island. Farms have food and can make more. Islands have fish and with a much lower population and an end to commercial fishing you'll have increasing fish numbers. The population will be low and being an island means a set number of zombies to deal with and it is highly probable that the island has many other survivors when you consider how far away people live from their neighbors. But an island in which country? I would opt for Japan. +Lots of rice. Rice keeps for a long time. More then enough time for you to figure out how to grow it. +Japan is a relatively wealthy country so even a small island will be well supplied. +The weather in Japan is not so brutal as to add to your survival problems. +The Japanese are fairly docile and work well in groups. You won't have renegades putting everyone's life at risk by doing stupid stuff. If you lead, they will follow. -Few guns... very few guns. All you are likely to find will be a few pistols and shotguns at the local police station. -Japanese buildings are designed to be easily replaced in case of an earthquake. This means really weak buildings. If the place you set up in is swarmed the zombies might just break through the walls. But more likely they will break through the sliding glass front door. the best zombie weapon in the world is a .22 rimfire rifle. it has enough power to punch trough the fount part of the head but not enough to come out the back so it zips around in the brain cavity and turns it to mush. and no gun store in the world would forget to stock .22 rimfire
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.27 03:40:00 - [36] I'd pick the US, Alaska in particular. +**ing cold, slow zombies + summers are damp, which makes zombies attract flies (i.e. maggots, zombies can't walk if maggots are eating the brain) + lots of food available for hunting, fish available for fishin + the oil pipeline, just siphon off oil for fuel - **ing cold - not good for growing stuff - ZOMBIE GRIZZLY BEARS
Nalta Nightbringer Amarr Angels of the Abyss	Posted - 2009.07.27 04:22:00 - [37] Northern territories of Canada imo. Mostly low population so not as many potential zombies, everyone up there probably owns a gun, and it's freaking cold so slow zombies. Plus an abundance of wildlife to live off of if the need calls for it.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.07.27 04:31:00 - [38] Definitely america. We can feed the zombies on all the newly fat immigrants who haven't realised yet that fast food is baaaad for you to buy some time whilst the homegrown citizens who knew better will shoot the zombies with our glorious arsenal of doom we all have stuffed in a closet or gunrack. Originally by: Vaden Khale He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2009.07.27 04:56:00 - [39] Antartica +Its cold enough to freeze any zombie that gets on land +Plenty of birds to eat -Its $%#$%ing cold! On an unrelated note, Kneel before Zod!
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2009.07.27 05:46:00 - [40] Guys, you're forgetting the possibility of food/water contamination. For islands, what if the fish turn zombie? What if the ground becomes so soaked in zombie deadblood that anything grown on it becomes zombie-plants? You have to consider such things for long-term. Even if you lived on an island, far from zombie-contamination, there's only a finite chance that sooner or later, even whatever-is-causing-zombiefication wont reach you, usually by air or sea. And, lets not forget, zombies, as brain-dead as they are, can and will attempt to find more food, which may force their dead brain cells to jerk a bit. That "jerk" in the brain cells is what scares me. What if they get smart enough to swim/boat over to your island? -
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.27 06:23:00 - [41] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Guys, you're forgetting the possibility of food/water contamination. For islands, what if the fish turn zombie? What if the ground becomes so soaked in zombie deadblood that anything grown on it becomes zombie-plants? You have to consider such things for long-term. Even if you lived on an island, far from zombie-contamination, there's only a finite chance that sooner or later, even whatever-is-causing-zombiefication wont reach you, usually by air or sea. And, lets not forget, zombies, as brain-dead as they are, can and will attempt to find more food, which may force their dead brain cells to jerk a bit. That "jerk" in the brain cells is what scares me. What if they get smart enough to swim/boat over to your island? First of all, I doubt that zombies (dead flesh) would make it far swimming ANYWHERE in the ocean. Scavenging fish and birds would probably eat it first. Second, boatloads of zombies can be taken care of with flaming arrows/ shots to the hull of the boat (especially shots just below the waterline)/fire in general. This would make an interesting new dilemma- zombie gulls and sharks. While seeing zombie sharks would be sorta cool (when you're not on or in the water) the fact that they are there, waiting for you to eventually take a bath or go fishin' would be terrifying. As per the latest installment of Resident Evil, zombie birds could be dangerous, until you find the way to kill them. On an island, you could simply bait zombiegulls with pieces of meat..stuffed with alka-seltzer. Since most animals don't burp, the gull would have a very unpleastant case of indigestion, resulting in an exploded zombiegull. Now, zombies in the water would probably contaminate the beach close to where they are at, so I would advise killing them ON THE BEACH and then moving to a different part of the island until they decompose. You wouldn't want to use that beach for a bit after the bodies are decomposed, as tropical locales warrant extra-nasty diseases and bacteria/fungi/parasites from rotting flesh, although the benefit is that things decompose MUCH faster in a hot, humid environment. Generally speaking, DON'T GO TO AN ISLAND. The idea of an abandoned tropical island way out to sea and far from zombies might sound appealing, until something happens. Then, you have nothing else to resort to- your food, your water source(s), and your habitat would become contaminated and overrun very easily. It would simply be much better to move to a place where it's cold or dry- frozen zombies would be slow, easier to kill, and would eventually fall apart due to water expansion and contraction due to freezing and thawing. Somewhere dry would be great because eventually the zombie's flesh would dry out, turning them into jerky. Eventually the flesh would become so dry that it would simply crumble into dust, and the zombie would probably die before then. Please, keep in mind that the typical zombie (i.e. Dawn of the Dead, Resident Evil, etc.) really WOULDN'T be around for long- eventually scavenging and predatory animals would pick them off, not to mention they would attract flies and other insects like crazy- they would lay eggs and be eaten by the larvae, and zombies wouldn't last long with a head full of larvae and/or no muscles with which to move.
Rawrior Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.27 08:56:00 - [42] Edited by: Rawrior on 27/07/2009 08:58:35 err howabout hawaii? Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.27 09:35:00 - [43] The best place to live during a zombie attack is on the moon! And did you know that this is in fact Surfin's Plunderbunny's forum alt? It's official!
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.27 10:18:00 - [44] Originally by: Rawrior Edited by: Rawrior on 27/07/2009 08:58:35 err howabout hawaii? Originally by: JordanParey DON'T GO TO AN ISLAND
KiloAlpha Southern Cross Trilogy Flying Dangerous	Posted - 2009.07.27 10:46:00 - [45] your all doing it wrong read world war z everyone is equally ****ed
Mister Flibble eNinjas Incorporated	Posted - 2009.07.27 11:25:00 - [46] Originally by: Intense Thinker The best place to live during a zombie attack is on the moon! This. It makes it much easier to nuke them from orbit.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.07.27 11:40:00 - [47] Zwitserland (Swiss). Everyone is required by law to own a rifle and know how to shoot it. I live in Holland (extremely dense population, practically no weapons i.e. I'm totally screwed). --- Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2009.07.27 13:26:00 - [48] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 27/07/2009 13:33:36 The Icelandic ICRU and National Police have access to weapons and a degree of combat training, so considering the small size of Iceland's population a fortified position would be less likely to be overrun. However since the large majority of the population lives in a relatively compact area, clearing out Reykjavik of zombie infestation would be a difficult task without outside help or armored vehicles. Vehicles of course would require fuel which would no longer be getting delivered, assuming the rest of the world were also suffering from rampant zombiism. Speaking of fuel, if there are no survivors with the knowledge of running the power plants you're going to be in for some very unpleasant times in the winter. There are barely any trees in Iceland so you'll have to burn other non-renewable materials for heat. But Winter in Reykjavik is actually much milder than the winters in many other major European and American cities, so if you've got a secure position in the city or in a surrounding suburb then you should be able to get by about as well as the pre-industrial Icelanders in the winter. You better figure out how to operate a fishing boat though, and learn to operate a sailboat for the inevitable day when the powered vessels all run out of gas. There is a problem with Iceland though that hasn't been addressed yet. Supposing only 1% of the population is immune to infection, you're only going to be looking at a few hundred people of reproductive age, and a third of those people are going to start out the zombie invasion trapped in one of the remote cities around the coast away from the capitol. Another segment of them will be killed by the zombies. So when it's all said and done you'll have maybe fewer than a hundred people to repopulate the island if rescue from abroad doesn't come. This long-term consideration needs to be weighed against the near-term tactical advantages that Iceland offers. I think that Anchorage Alaska is probably a better place to be. Similar climate conditions to Reykjavik, low population, ready access to wildlife and firewood, and very close proximity to a major military installation. It's also a part of the North American mainland so if you had to leave you've got a highway that runs all the way down through Canada into the States.
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2009.07.27 16:13:00 - [49] Originally by: Dirk Magnum I think that Anchorage Alaska is probably a better place to be. Similar climate conditions to Reykjavik, low population, ready access to wildlife and firewood, and very close proximity to a major military installation. It's also a part of the North American mainland so if you had to leave you've got a highway that runs all the way down through Canada into the States. This'll only work if the zombie infestation is a localized affair. Unfortunately, considering zombies, such localized breakouts often turn national, then global if not contained quickly (like within 24 hours, carriers on planes, boats, etc). Granted, the military base sounds perfect, until food/supplies run out, and then you'll eventually have to head to the main highway to look for supplies somewhere else, wherein the survivors of cars and people who tried to run away from the zombie attack would have gotten stuck in due to traffic (and may have already been overrun, leaving behind zombies behind the wheel). I propose: A Vault. -
goodby4u Valor Inc. Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2009.07.27 16:21:00 - [50] As far as weapons go, if I had my pick of weapons(yeah I know I wouldn't but a hypothetical) I would probably choose the following... Linkage Shotguns are hands down the best weapons against a zombie horde, they take chunks out of the enemy and with this weapons ability to use grenade, normal, and all other rounds in addition to shotgun rounds give it an advantage... Not to mention the large drum of ammo. Linkage Heavy kick and slow reload yes, but damage is key and a revolver doesnt jam often. Linkage If all else fails go to the old standby, the claymore is quite possibly one of the best swords for cutting off heads, some are capable of cutting through multiple heads at the same time which gives a considerable advantage when a zombie's limb is in the path of your swing.... It also gives you the ability to stay at some range.... But lets face it, if your automatic shotgun, raging bull pistol, and friends failed to stop the horde, you really don't expect to come out of this alive at this point. Linkage This would be sitting in the house, if a single zombie or couple of zombies rear their ugly heads you wont want to waste your time suiting up and wasting shotgun ammo on them, better to use a sniper and headshot them. Lastly for armor due to weight constraints any armor is ill advised, however if you are to wear some I recommend chainmail... Easier to move with, will stop scratches and is rather easy to make with limited supplies.
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2009.07.27 16:27:00 - [51] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Guys, you're forgetting the possibility of food/water contamination. For islands, what if the fish turn zombie? What if the ground becomes so soaked in zombie deadblood that anything grown on it becomes zombie-plants? This doesn't matter at all. If the infection could be spread to animals the chances for survival would drop to zero.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari	Posted - 2009.07.27 16:50:00 - [52] I like how you guys are discussing places to go and what you would use/take while I'm sitting here already prepared for zombies. My house sits on a hill and my nearest neighbor is a half mile away. This means I will see the zombies long before they even get to me. Plus with the elevation advantage and a scope I'll pick em off long before the make it to my hill. 90% of my property is already fenced in ( everything with the exception of a front gate). And in certain areas that would be multiple fences for them to get through. Now granted neighborhood housing code won't allow me to construct 10' electric fences now I can wait for the apocalypse to hit and drive to the fence place that is about 7 miles away. Currently I'll have to make use of my standard size fence with a hot wire for horses. I live on well water currently and have been looking into solar panels. If I get those installed then I would be completely self sustainable. I also have a small garden which is already more than enough for me and finding one of our free range cattle would last for a couple years in my freezers. Hell if I find a couple I could put them in a pasture. I've already got a very nice assortment of anti-zombie firearms stored in a gun safe with enough ammo to hold out in the initial outbreak. A simple trip to the local Cabela's would set me up for a very long time. On top of that I have my grandfathers sword from his time in the military and the Japanese officers sword that he brought back from the pacific. I've already have got a stockpile of food and water due to natural occurrences like mother nature dumping ****ing 6 ft of snow on you in one night. I've got a 2 bay/4 vehicle garage which is more than enough room to hold several vehicles, Fuel drums, a local 'borrowed' national guard APC, tools and maintenance supplies. Although finding something like this would be ideal I think. I wonder if we have an equivalent around. I also own several horses so I have an alternate mode of transportation in case gas becomes scarce. Last but not least my town consist of maybe 1500 gun toting rednecks and we're several miles away from the nearest 'large' city (I think its maybe 300,000 currently, tiny compared to some).
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2009.07.27 17:02:00 - [53] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Last but not least my town consist of maybe 1500 gun toting rednecks and we're several miles away from the nearest 'large' city (I think its maybe 300,000 currently, tiny compared to some). For all the crap people give them, we know that the post zombie apocalypse future belongs to the rednecks!
Xen Gin Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.27 17:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Mr Reeth Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Last but not least my town consist of maybe 1500 gun toting rednecks and we're several miles away from the nearest 'large' city (I think its maybe 300,000 currently, tiny compared to some). For all the crap people give them, we know that the post zombie apocalypse future belongs to the rednecks! And they love dem horsies!
goodby4u Valor Inc. Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2009.07.27 17:59:00 - [55] It will be a dark dark day when we are all saved by dietrich.....
Labombecochone	Posted - 2009.07.27 18:22:00 - [56] The North Pole with freezing temperatures. That will be great because the zombies would freeze. You can eat seal blubber to stay alive and... when you get too lonely, just go outside naked and 'sleep to death'. Oh and I lol'd at skysc'****'rs.
Elena Khan	Posted - 2009.07.27 19:35:00 - [57] Edited by: Elena Khan on 27/07/2009 19:35:26 Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Antartica: Very small population Cold Red On White is easy to spot Zombies would solidify as they have no thermoregulation Nearly everyone there owns a huntilg rifle due to polar bears - Lots of guns and ammo there ARE NO POLAR BEARS IN ANTARTICA!!! they live in the ARTIC (other end of planet u numpty) only living things DOWN SOUTH are penguins and mad scientists Goons made Smashkill cry by Evicting us From Gempls nerf goon
Drakolus Amarr Terminal Impact	Posted - 2009.07.27 23:21:00 - [58] I heart this thread! So while I don't have all the advantages already mentioned by a few of the posters here I figure I could get set up in a fairly zombie free environment pretty quickly. I'm about an hour away from the rockies and maybe 2 hours away from a major army base. Go into the rockies, set up camp. Raid the army base or the reserve armory that's maybe 20 mins away and I have weapons, ammo, fuel and all sorts of goodies to last me a very long time. The colder temps combined with the remote nature of my new anti-zombie camp in the mountains should keep me fairly safe. That being said, if the bears do indeed go zombie I'm hosed, no bones about it. _____________________________________________
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.28 00:02:00 - [59] Originally by: Drakolus I heart this thread! So while I don't have all the advantages already mentioned by a few of the posters here I figure I could get set up in a fairly zombie free environment pretty quickly. I'm about an hour away from the rockies and maybe 2 hours away from a major army base. Go into the rockies, set up camp. Raid the army base or the reserve armory that's maybe 20 mins away and I have weapons, ammo, fuel and all sorts of goodies to last me a very long time. The colder temps combined with the remote nature of my new anti-zombie camp in the mountains should keep me fairly safe. That being said, if the bears do indeed go zombie I'm hosed, no bones about it. No kidding. Remember how the crows in RE Extinction weren't technically zombies, but they became infected through eating the dead flesh? They got smarter and more aggressive? Imagine a ****ing grizzly/brown bear that isn't dead but is infected, bloodthirsty, much smarter, and way more aggressive. "Hey Boo-boo, look at that TASTY HUMAN FAMILY!"
goodby4u Valor Inc. Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2009.07.28 00:08:00 - [60] Well there is worse to worry about, what about the maggots living on the corpses? Will they turn into zombie flies? If so, there is a 0% chance of man surviving, especially when the flies get eaten by other bugs and infect them aswell.

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