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Regus Nockta
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Regus Nockta on 01/10/2004 14:35:24
Hello all,
Ive finally settled on a high slot setup that im happy with - Comination of all megapulses or mixture of tachs and siege launchers (depends on situation)
For med slots i use either all cap rechargers or 3 with a an mwd for easy rat loot collection.
Now for low im currently using 3 x 50% hardners (thermal, kinetic and explosive), a 15% adaptive one for all round, a cpu t2, and 2 x med repairers t2.
I was wondering whether id be better off scraping the existing hardning setup and using 4 of the 20% Adaptive Membranes to give all round hardening. I know that a penalty would be incurred but would any one have any idea as to what the final over hardnening would be. atm im getting between 60% and 70% damage resistance on all types.
Am i being a little over kill?
Any suggestions would be really appreciated
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Regus Nockta
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Regus Nockta on 01/10/2004 14:35:24
Hello all,
Ive finally settled on a high slot setup that im happy with - Comination of all megapulses or mixture of tachs and siege launchers (depends on situation)
For med slots i use either all cap rechargers or 3 with a an mwd for easy rat loot collection.
Now for low im currently using 3 x 50% hardners (thermal, kinetic and explosive), a 15% adaptive one for all round, a cpu t2, and 2 x med repairers t2.
I was wondering whether id be better off scraping the existing hardning setup and using 4 of the 20% Adaptive Membranes to give all round hardening. I know that a penalty would be incurred but would any one have any idea as to what the final over hardnening would be. atm im getting between 60% and 70% damage resistance on all types.
Am i being a little over kill?
Any suggestions would be really appreciated
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:35:00 -
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Pvp or npc???
I use 2x large accomodation armour repairers, 2/3 armour hardeners (2 for ratting, 3 for pvp) 2/3 cap relays.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:35:00 -
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Pvp or npc???
I use 2x large accomodation armour repairers, 2/3 armour hardeners (2 for ratting, 3 for pvp) 2/3 cap relays.
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Regus Nockta
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:48:00 -
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pvp and npc,
ive tried to use large armour repairers but they suck so much cap, am i doing something wrong, with the 2 med t2 repairers, i can sit quite happily and my cap goes up, plus i think it repaires 320 per repairer so 640 in total per cycle which is about 12 seconds (from memory)
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Regus Nockta
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Posted - 2004.10.01 14:48:00 -
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pvp and npc,
ive tried to use large armour repairers but they suck so much cap, am i doing something wrong, with the 2 med t2 repairers, i can sit quite happily and my cap goes up, plus i think it repaires 320 per repairer so 640 in total per cycle which is about 12 seconds (from memory)
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fras
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Posted - 2004.10.01 15:00:00 -
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for pvp and most mid to high level npc situations you will find that 2x medium repairers don't give enough repairing ability. So you are right, L reps suck alot more cap, but with the mediums you will most probably find you will pop with cap to spare sooner or later.
The suggested low slots look sensible.
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fras
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Posted - 2004.10.01 15:00:00 -
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for pvp and most mid to high level npc situations you will find that 2x medium repairers don't give enough repairing ability. So you are right, L reps suck alot more cap, but with the mediums you will most probably find you will pop with cap to spare sooner or later.
The suggested low slots look sensible.
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Pesadilla
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Posted - 2004.10.01 17:29:00 -
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train ur cap skills and amarr bs skill up and u can let 2 large repairers run w/o ever running out of cap
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Pesadilla
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Posted - 2004.10.01 17:29:00 -
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train ur cap skills and amarr bs skill up and u can let 2 large repairers run w/o ever running out of cap
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Regus Nockta
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Posted - 2004.10.02 08:40:00 -
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thanks for the info
i got amarr bs lvl 3, all the energy management ones upto lvl 4 and controlled bursts for cap reduction for my weapons upto lvl 4, im gonna train mechanic upto lvl 5 so i can use large armour repairer t2 but ill test the large repairer later but im sure that i can only tank for a minute or so
:)
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Regus Nockta
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Posted - 2004.10.02 08:40:00 -
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thanks for the info
i got amarr bs lvl 3, all the energy management ones upto lvl 4 and controlled bursts for cap reduction for my weapons upto lvl 4, im gonna train mechanic upto lvl 5 so i can use large armour repairer t2 but ill test the large repairer later but im sure that i can only tank for a minute or so
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.10.02 13:51:00 -
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8 megapulse(multi.radio crystals)
4 rechargers
2 large repairors, 2 cap relays, 2/3 hardners, 0/1 heat sink.
should work for any situation
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agentsmitty
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Posted - 2004.10.02 13:51:00 -
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8 megapulse(multi.radio crystals)
4 rechargers
2 large repairors, 2 cap relays, 2/3 hardners, 0/1 heat sink.
should work for any situation
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Abomination
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Posted - 2004.10.02 14:26:00 -
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im using 3 hardneners atm but as soon as i can use them im switching to 3 20% adaptives. This gives slightly worse tanking vs exp, thermal and kinetic damage by a % or too, but i get increased em resistance for gankageddon protection.
as for cap problems, you really shouldn't be having any, especially if you are using launchers in your setup. with 4 med slots and 2 low slot cap mods i can run 8 megapulse 2 large reps and 3 hardeners for ever. |
Abomination
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Posted - 2004.10.02 14:26:00 -
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im using 3 hardneners atm but as soon as i can use them im switching to 3 20% adaptives. This gives slightly worse tanking vs exp, thermal and kinetic damage by a % or too, but i get increased em resistance for gankageddon protection.
as for cap problems, you really shouldn't be having any, especially if you are using launchers in your setup. with 4 med slots and 2 low slot cap mods i can run 8 megapulse 2 large reps and 3 hardeners for ever. |
Regus Nockta
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Posted - 2004.10.04 08:38:00 -
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Thanks for the advice guys,
with a few adjustments ive managed to run the large repairers without any cap problems, however i had a play with sacrificing a med slot cap recharger for a tracking computer which made a REAL difference to what i can hit, i can hit cruiser npcs at 10km easy with multies on, only problem is i have to use 1 large repairer and a med tech 2 which still gives me almost 1000 repair points every 12 secs plus it runs with hardeners indefinately, i can now recharge 6625 cap in 288 secs,
Cheers
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Regus Nockta
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Posted - 2004.10.04 08:38:00 -
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Thanks for the advice guys,
with a few adjustments ive managed to run the large repairers without any cap problems, however i had a play with sacrificing a med slot cap recharger for a tracking computer which made a REAL difference to what i can hit, i can hit cruiser npcs at 10km easy with multies on, only problem is i have to use 1 large repairer and a med tech 2 which still gives me almost 1000 repair points every 12 secs plus it runs with hardeners indefinately, i can now recharge 6625 cap in 288 secs,
Cheers
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.10.04 11:21:00 -
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Low slots I am using;
x2 50% Hardners (EM & Thermal)
x1 Named L Armour Repairer
x1 Named M Armour Repairer
x1 CPR
x1 Sensor Booster II
X1 Heat Sink II
Use this set-up for NPC farming and have had no probs with keeping the tank going indefinately. The Sensor booster 2 works well as I can target at 97km and blast away with radio til my hearts content.
If you are planning to farm NPC's it pays to select a system to use on a permanent basis, and spend sometime setting it up with BM's.
I have BM's at 100km above all belts. For a couple of reasons. 1st I am unlikley to warp in on top of a spawn, and 2nd the NPC's fly up to meet you, so u don't have to navigate around roids to pick up loot cans. Makes life a whole lot easier.
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Heavy Messing
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Posted - 2004.10.04 11:21:00 -
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Low slots I am using;
x2 50% Hardners (EM & Thermal)
x1 Named L Armour Repairer
x1 Named M Armour Repairer
x1 CPR
x1 Sensor Booster II
X1 Heat Sink II
Use this set-up for NPC farming and have had no probs with keeping the tank going indefinately. The Sensor booster 2 works well as I can target at 97km and blast away with radio til my hearts content.
If you are planning to farm NPC's it pays to select a system to use on a permanent basis, and spend sometime setting it up with BM's.
I have BM's at 100km above all belts. For a couple of reasons. 1st I am unlikley to warp in on top of a spawn, and 2nd the NPC's fly up to meet you, so u don't have to navigate around roids to pick up loot cans. Makes life a whole lot easier.
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Levin Cavil
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Posted - 2004.10.04 11:40:00 -
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Your hardener setup isn't so hot. Remeber how the stacking penalty works. It goes off the lowest modifier of the attribute. So if you fit a 15% and 50% hardener for thermal you are effectively turning that 50% hardener into a 15% and then the stacking penalty is calcualted. The first mod gives its full bonus, the 2nd one gets a 25% penalty (I think) So if you take that 15% multi hardener off you will get better resists and also have a slot for a cap relay, damage mod or tracking mod.
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Levin Cavil
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Posted - 2004.10.04 11:40:00 -
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Your hardener setup isn't so hot. Remeber how the stacking penalty works. It goes off the lowest modifier of the attribute. So if you fit a 15% and 50% hardener for thermal you are effectively turning that 50% hardener into a 15% and then the stacking penalty is calcualted. The first mod gives its full bonus, the 2nd one gets a 25% penalty (I think) So if you take that 15% multi hardener off you will get better resists and also have a slot for a cap relay, damage mod or tracking mod.
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<Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Cusi Huaman
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Posted - 2004.10.04 13:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Heavy Messing
I have BM's at 100km above all belts. For a couple of reasons. 1st I am unlikley to warp in on top of a spawn, and 2nd the NPC's fly up to meet you, so u don't have to navigate around roids to pick up loot cans. Makes life a whole lot easier.
Why do you need this? I hunt Sansha's. I always warp in at 15km. First I kill the bs. Then the cruisers. Last thing I let the doggies out to chew up frigs and inties.
2 L accos let me tank a 3 bs spawn without any problems.
... I want dessert - where is my Overlord?
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Cusi Huaman
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Posted - 2004.10.04 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Heavy Messing
I have BM's at 100km above all belts. For a couple of reasons. 1st I am unlikley to warp in on top of a spawn, and 2nd the NPC's fly up to meet you, so u don't have to navigate around roids to pick up loot cans. Makes life a whole lot easier.
Why do you need this? I hunt Sansha's. I always warp in at 15km. First I kill the bs. Then the cruisers. Last thing I let the doggies out to chew up frigs and inties.
2 L accos let me tank a 3 bs spawn without any problems.
... I want dessert - where is my Overlord?
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