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warzonetemp
Mining and Industrial Services The Irukandji
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:12:00 -
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For pvp looking for fleet and small gang pvp fits for droneboat.
Pve looking at battleship dps and defense to match firepower of cnr or if possible a Mach like 800+ dps with rails , heavy ,or cruise, yeah 2 user or better. All droneboat from ishkur to ishtar, gila to rattlesnake or old domi.
Is it possible now? |

Lunkwill Khashour
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.24 20:18:00 -
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For PvE, yes, it is possible. 3 drone damage mods (DDM?) and whatever highs and whatever bonused ship will get you there.
Now do your own work. |

Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company Assassin Confederacy
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Posted - 2012.05.25 07:45:00 -
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Way more then posible!
Rattlesnake is pure L4 mission king now. |

Maeltstome
Epidemic. F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:06:00 -
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Level 4's: Dominix / Rattlesnake 8/10 Plex (guri/serp): Ishtar 8/10 other: Gila
PVP: Dominix or Ishtar. nano Isthar might work now - 2k/s with 650 dps? Yes please. |

Maeltstome
Epidemic. F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:20:00 -
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I knocked up this budget setup for a dominix:
[Dominix, LVL 4's]
Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
425mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Garde II x5
All level 5's: 600 DPS tank, 160 Gun DPS, 630 Drone DPS. That's 800 total, with perma 600dps tank. This setup is for Guristas/Serpentis... so change hardeners and drones accordingly. |

Waxfire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:40:00 -
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LvL 4 or what ever in high sec Rattler:
High: 4 Cruise Missile Launchers II 2 Drone Link Augmentors II
Mid: 2 Adaptive Invulnerability Fields II 2 Omnidirectional Tracking Links II 1 Shield Recharger II 2 Large Shield Extenders II
Low: 3 Drone Damage Augmentors II 3 Shield Power Relays II
Rigs: 3 Large Core Defense Field Purgers I
Drones: 5 Hobgoblin II 5 Ogre II 5 Garde II 5 Warden II
Dont have EFT here but
DPS with 5 Garde and the 4 Launchers was around 800 Tank was around 650 Omni Tank
More than enought for any lvl 4 and cheaper than some of the other "expensive" fits since the Rattler is the only really expensive thing in it.
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Solovej
Parental Control
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:02:00 -
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Waxfire wrote:LvL 4 or what ever in high sec Rattler:
High: 4 Cruise Missile Launchers II 2 Drone Link Augmentors II
Mid: 2 Adaptive Invulnerability Fields II 2 Omnidirectional Tracking Links II 1 Shield Recharger II 2 Large Shield Extenders II
Low: 3 Drone Damage Augmentors II 3 Shield Power Relays II
Rigs: 3 Large Core Defense Field Purgers I
Drones: 5 Hobgoblin II 5 Ogre II 5 Garde II 5 Warden II
Dont have EFT here but
DPS with 5 Garde and the 4 Launchers was around 800 Tank was around 650 Omni Tank
More than enought for any lvl 4 and cheaper than some of the other "expensive" fits since the Rattler is the only really expensive thing in it.
You are missing half the point. For lvl 4s drop 2 or even all 3 sprs for caldai navy bcs and you have a much more efficitent mission oooor I d also drop the cruise launchers for siege launchers on this ship tbh but that's neither here nor there...
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Waxfire
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:22:00 -
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@Solovej
I agree with you, was supposed to be a "not so expensive" fit. |

Jame Jarl Retief
Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:06:00 -
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Solovej wrote: You are missing half the point. For lvl 4s drop 2 or even all 3 sprs for caldai navy bcs and you have a much more efficitent mission oooor I d also drop the cruise launchers for siege launchers on this ship tbh but that's neither here nor there...
Wouldn't removing SPRs make the tank quite flimsy? I mean three SPRs might be overkill (500-ish tank?), but no SPRs results in 250-ish tank, with maybe 100-150 DPS gained. |

Aineko Stryer
Aineko Accelerando Labs
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:56:00 -
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Just some quick EFT-whoring
[Dominix, Dominix fit]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Large Shield Booster II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
350mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Garde II x5
1194 dps, use a Navy Domi and it gets nasty |

Mavnas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:33:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:I knocked up this budget setup for a dominix:
[Dominix, LVL 4's]
Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
425mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Uranium Charge L Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Garde II x5
All level 5's: 600 DPS tank, 160 Gun DPS, 630 Drone DPS. That's 800 total, with perma 600dps tank. This setup is for Guristas/Serpentis... so change hardeners and drones accordingly.
The Domi used to be able to push 900 before drone mods, perhaps witha weaker tank than that. This doesn't seem like an improvement. |

Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:47:00 -
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[Dominix Navy Issue, Shield Gank]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Dread Guristas EM Ward Field Dread Guristas EM Ward Field Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Garde II x5
Enough tank and cap to run L4s, pretty darn expensive. 1207 dps @ 50-60km, or 956 dps @ 87km with CN Lead + Bouncers. |

Degdek Dex
Galae Defense Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.28 06:35:00 -
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Thought I'd share my impressions of how the new modules have changed my PvE Dominix. I use something like this:
[Dominix, Dominix no implants] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Co-Processor II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
X-Large Shield Booster II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Kinetic Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II [empty med slot]
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Garde II x5
I'm a cheapskate, so T2 modules only. The ACRs are probably the most expensive single thing, so I actually use a variant of this with an RCU, some implants, and less power grid, but you get the general idea.
If you stick in a relatively cheap +3% CPU implant, you can probably stick something into that empty mid slot.
Basically, I'm finding that a mix of 3xDDA and 3xMFS gives me the best overall damage; the rest of the fit is up to individual taste, with some damage modules sacrificed if it doesn't quite fit. Drop a DDA before an MFS.
Also, I used to use SDA rigs, but the CPU drawback even at Drone Rigging V makes it not worth it anymore compared to stacking up DDAs and overclock rigs.
Does 1262 dps with all 5, no implants. With rat-specific hardeners, this config tanks about 552 against Guristas. It's not cap-stable, of course; I usually use a variant with a medium cap booster to keep the XL booster pulsing. I haven't had any problems with cap in most of the L4s I've run with this. |

Crellion
Parental Control
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Posted - 2012.05.28 06:48:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:Solovej wrote: You are missing half the point. For lvl 4s drop 2 or even all 3 sprs for caldai navy bcs and you have a much more efficitent mission oooor I d also drop the cruise launchers for siege launchers on this ship tbh but that's neither here nor there...
Wouldn't removing SPRs make the tank quite flimsy? I mean three SPRs might be overkill (500-ish tank?), but no SPRs results in 250-ish tank, with maybe 100-150 DPS gained.
No the tank on that is fine and the dps gain is more than that.
All the drone boats now have good gank fits with 3xDDA + 3xMFSII/BCUII + 1xDCU depending on variant.
For the comment that it is an expensive fit: it isnt rly you dont have to use CN BCUs you can use TIIs or if they dont fit then Domination (cheap).
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Maeltstome
Epidemic. F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.05.28 06:56:00 -
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Mavnas wrote:The Domi used to be able to push 900 before drone mods, perhaps witha weaker tank than that. This doesn't seem like an improvement.
Perma running a tank tends to gimp your dps. Turning on a repairer and leaving it on is old fashioned but something i do because i don't want lag/desync/DC to result in a lost ship. So lot's of cap modules required to tank repairers. |
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