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Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 02:17:00 - [1] i posted this in general but thought i'd throw it up here aswell is there a post on this already? "i would like to see thieves Flagged for life towards the involved people or to the corp, also why isn't there a sec standing loss for the ones that stay in an NPC corp send them off to 0.0 after so many infractions they might actually join a corp then, a game with RL risk needs RL penalty's... or atleast flagged for life if they reside in an NPC corp, war dec's can take care of the ones that know how to team. If it's to help the market along.. i don't get it. if there is a thread on this already please point me in the direction... thanks, Rawbin"
Gin G Halls Of Valhalla	Posted - 2009.07.28 02:19:00 - [2] cant we just talk about ninja salvging instead or this Linkage Please refrain from editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 02:24:00 - [3] Originally by: Gin G cant we just talk about ninja salvging instead or this Linkage hmmm.... next
Re'taka Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2009.07.28 02:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Rawbin Hood i posted this in general but thought i'd throw it up here aswell is there a post on this already? "i would like to see thieves Flagged for life towards the involved people or to the corp, also why isn't there a sec standing loss for the ones that stay in an NPC corp send them off to 0.0 after so many infractions they might actually join a corp then, a game with RL risk needs RL penalty's... or atleast flagged for life if they reside in an NPC corp, war dec's can take care of the ones that know how to team. If it's to help the market along.. i don't get it. if there is a thread on this already please point me in the direction... thanks, Rawbin" Noob much?
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.28 03:31:00 - [5] It's funny hearing someone complain about thieves when their online persona is named "Rawbin Hood". Deal with it or leave.
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 03:48:00 - [6] Edited by: Rawbin Hood on 28/07/2009 03:49:51 Originally by: JordanParey It's funny hearing someone complain about thieves when their online persona is named "Rawbin Hood". Deal with it or leave. for like the tenth time it's not a complaint, time based game gives no time to deal with theft... don't "Ninja's" want a challenge, this would be dealing with it According to Japanese legend, a ninja was a warrior specially trained in a variety of unorthodox arts of war so it's not a ninja art
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.28 06:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Rawbin Hood Edited by: Rawbin Hood on 28/07/2009 03:49:51 Originally by: JordanParey It's funny hearing someone complain about thieves when their online persona is named "Rawbin Hood". Deal with it or leave. for like the tenth time it's not a complaint, time based game gives no time to deal with theft... don't "Ninja's" want a challenge, this would be dealing with it According to Japanese legend, a ninja was a warrior specially trained in a variety of unorthodox arts of war so it's not a ninja art Whatever, sounds like a complaint to me. Thieves are flagged to your WHOLE CORP for fifteen minutes, if you can't find a way to use that time wisely, it's not our problem. Also: troll detected.
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 07:07:00 - [8] Edited by: Rawbin Hood on 28/07/2009 07:07:59 Originally by: JordanParey Originally by: Rawbin Hood Edited by: Rawbin Hood on 28/07/2009 03:49:51 Originally by: JordanParey It's funny hearing someone complain about thieves when their online persona is named "Rawbin Hood". Deal with it or leave. for like the tenth time it's not a complaint, time based game gives no time to deal with theft... don't "Ninja's" want a challenge, this would be dealing with it According to Japanese legend, a ninja was a warrior specially trained in a variety of unorthodox arts of war so it's not a ninja art Whatever, sounds like a complaint to me. Thieves are flagged to your WHOLE CORP for fifteen minutes, if you can't find a way to use that time wisely, it's not our problem. Also: troll detected. i dout you could help change it.... i hear a can that needs flipping.. go on The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 07:13:00 - [9] anyone around with an IQ higher then -23??? The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.07.28 08:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Rawbin Hood anyone around with an IQ higher then -23??? Yes. 126, actually. That's irrelevant, though. What you are basically asking to do is some sort of "vendetta" type deal? flagging someone for life for stealing is a bit harsh, imo. Even when someone aggresses and kills your ship for no reason, the kill rights only last for a month or so. Instead of making a topic out of this, you could do a little research- if you really want to mess with someone for a while, run locator agents on them (L4 ones) to find out where they are, then go and hunt for them. Hire a merc corp to grief them for a while. In short, this isn't really something that needs changing, and it's ok to be a newer player. I was one once.
Ydyp Ieva Caldari Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2009.07.28 10:08:00 - [11] The time isn't the problem on his own, but 15 minutes should be extended to perhaps an hour? Docking up, going to get a coffee, take a chat witht he family and woops when I got back the 15 minute timer is already gone. And everyone knows the only perfect safe place in this universe is in the docks of a npc station. Or make it so that the corp indeed got 15 minutes to effective hunt him down. So if you are flagged for stealing you can't dock up as long as your timer is running down. However next to that you got the afk cloaking in safespot to that has to be addressed if this want to work. ---------------------------------- None of yet!
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:29:00 - [12] Originally by: JordanParey Originally by: Rawbin Hood anyone around with an IQ higher then -23??? Yes. 126, actually. That's irrelevant, though. What you are basically asking to do is some sort of "vendetta" type deal? flagging someone for life for stealing is a bit harsh, imo. Even when someone aggresses and kills your ship for no reason, the kill rights only last for a month or so. Instead of making a topic out of this, you could do a little research- if you really want to mess with someone for a while, run locator agents on them (L4 ones) to find out where they are, then go and hunt for them. Hire a merc corp to grief them for a while. In short, this isn't really something that needs changing, and it's ok to be a newer player. I was one once. as far as i know locator agents only work if your at war with the corp which dosen't help the NPC coward ways... if kill rights last that long why not just extend it aggression for a few months towards NPC toons The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Ydyp Ieva The time isn't the problem on his own, but 15 minutes should be extended to perhaps an hour? Docking up, going to get a coffee, take a chat witht he family and woops when I got back the 15 minute timer is already gone. And everyone knows the only perfect safe place in this universe is in the docks of a npc station. Or make it so that the corp indeed got 15 minutes to effective hunt him down. So if you are flagged for stealing you can't dock up as long as your timer is running down. However next to that you got the afk cloaking in safespot to that has to be addressed if this want to work. a timer that stops when docked would be nice aswell The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 11:37:00 - [14] Originally by: JordanParey Originally by: Rawbin Hood anyone around with an IQ higher then -23??? Yes. 126, actually. That's irrelevant, though. What you are basically asking to do is some sort of "vendetta" type deal? flagging someone for life for stealing is a bit harsh, imo. Even when someone aggresses and kills your ship for no reason, the kill rights only last for a month or so. Instead of making a topic out of this, you could do a little research- if you really want to mess with someone for a while, run locator agents on them (L4 ones) to find out where they are, then go and hunt for them. Hire a merc corp to grief them for a while. Quote: In short, this isn't really something that needs changing, it's catering to the ones that can't comunicate, and i don't mean carebears they know how to team and with soo much 0.0 out there it must be a team effort if your to scared to leave an NPC corp then you should have a heavy empire curse to deal with Quote: and it's ok to be a newer player. I was one once. i think you still are judging bye your peeing in the wind stab in the dark there's nothing ninja about it =P The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.28 12:25:00 - [15] Can you not imagine how many dead crybabies would result from this? We used to be able to remote rep belt rats and turn red to everybody for 15 minutes. Anybody stupid enough to take a shot at you was swiftly despatched. ahhhh, those days. It's so dumb, the bears scream out for chances to shoot, and do you know how many take those opportunities when offered? Almost none. And of those that do, it nearly always goes **** up for them, and they come on here crying for less chances to get shot at. That's how it became ok for us to salvage wrecks, because historically we could only salvage empty wrecks, forcing us to empty them to salvage them, "forcing" the bears to shut at our salvage ships which quickly despatched their Vexor Usually With Lazers. So yes. Do it. I support your plan, and any other plan that gives bears opportunities to hang themselves with ever shorter pieces of rope. Top Idea.
Ydyp Ieva Caldari Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2009.07.28 12:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Tiny Tove Can you not imagine how many dead crybabies would result from this? We used to be able to remote rep belt rats and turn red to everybody for 15 minutes. Anybody stupid enough to take a shot at you was swiftly despatched. ahhhh, those days. It's so dumb, the bears scream out for chances to shoot, and do you know how many take those opportunities when offered? Almost none. And of those that do, it nearly always goes **** up for them, and they come on here crying for less chances to get shot at. That's how it became ok for us to salvage wrecks, because historically we could only salvage empty wrecks, forcing us to empty them to salvage them, "forcing" the bears to shut at our salvage ships which quickly despatched their Vexor Usually With Lazers. So yes. Do it. I support your plan, and any other plan that gives bears opportunities to hang themselves with ever shorter pieces of rope. Top Idea. Did you even read the topic? Guessing from your answer: nope. ---------------------------------- None of yet!
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.28 12:46:00 - [17] Originally by: Ydyp Ieva Did you even read the topic? Guessing from your answer: nope. I'm sorry, which bit of it needs clarifying for you?
Oscardoodle Amarr	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:07:00 - [18] So you suggest that corp thieves be flagged criminal so the corp they steal from can shoot them in highsec? Ooooooooooookay? You know you can shoot members of your corp in highsec anyways right? Why add a useless game mechanic? If your corp gets thievaroo'd just shoot the thief and be done with it.
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:12:00 - [19] Originally by: Oscardoodle So you suggest that corp thieves be flagged criminal so the corp they steal from can shoot them in highsec? Ooooooooooookay? You know you can shoot members of your corp in highsec anyways right? Why add a useless game mechanic? If your corp gets thievaroo'd just shoot the thief and be done with it. extended time.... extended time..... more penalty for NPC thieves because they can't be war dec'ed, or take away NPC's ability to steal... i like the fact that you can, it's just dull when the 15min's runs out and you can't dec them, it's a shame really in such an epic game. and it would be really cool if people would stop posting basic knowledge. The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Ydyp Ieva Caldari Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Oscardoodle So you suggest that corp thieves be flagged criminal so the corp they steal from can shoot them in highsec? Ooooooooooookay? You know you can shoot members of your corp in highsec anyways right? Why add a useless game mechanic? If your corp gets thievaroo'd just shoot the thief and be done with it. He means the flagging when you nick someones ore out of can or steal loot out of a wreckage. That would flag you to the whole corporation for 15 minutes. But if you do it correctly you are docked up before they can muster and retatiate for stealing from them. He suggested the timer would stay for a lifetime ;) ---------------------------------- None of yet!
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Ydyp Ieva Originally by: Oscardoodle So you suggest that corp thieves be flagged criminal so the corp they steal from can shoot them in highsec? Ooooooooooookay? You know you can shoot members of your corp in highsec anyways right? Why add a useless game mechanic? If your corp gets thievaroo'd just shoot the thief and be done with it. He means the flagging when you nick someones ore out of can or steal loot out of a wreckage. That would flag you to the whole corporation for 15 minutes. But if you do it correctly you are docked up before they can muster and retatiate for stealing from them. He suggested the timer would stay for a lifetime ;) or even just for the people in NPC corps... War solves all else /me shutters at the fact he said war solves anything The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Robert Caldera	Posted - 2009.07.28 13:37:00 - [22] you pussies annoy me with your high sec whines. If you want shooting people for peanuts go to lowsec or 0.0 and stop spamming forums with such crap topics finally!
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 14:36:00 - [23] Edited by: Rawbin Hood on 28/07/2009 14:41:24 Edited by: Rawbin Hood on 28/07/2009 14:37:05 Originally by: Robert Caldera you pussies annoy me with your high sec whines. If you want shooting people for peanuts go to lowsec or 0.0 and stop spamming forums with such crap topics finally! how is wanting more pew pew from the ones that don't want it make us pussies General Discussion is a different thread p.s. DON'T READ IT THEN one more edit: don't use what the thread is about against the thread, it's just silly The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.28 15:31:00 - [24] Maybe you should say "Only people who agree with me are welcome to comment" to really nail it?
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 17:37:00 - [25] Originally by: Tiny Tove Maybe you should say "Only people who agree with me are welcome to comment" to really nail it? nono i don't like to leave negative people with out a response, may hurt them in the long run. and the last one is the reason i want to see a change. you just here to flame? The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 17:40:00 - [26] Originally by: Tiny Tove Maybe you should say "Only people who agree with me are welcome to comment" to really nail it? now look... Originally by: Oscardoodle So you suggest that corp thieves be flagged criminal so the corp they steal from can shoot them in highsec? Ooooooooooookay? You know you can shoot members of your corp in highsec anyways right? Why add a useless game mechanic? If your corp gets thievaroo'd just shoot the thief and be done with it. negative but polite The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 17:42:00 - [27] Edited by: Rawbin Hood on 28/07/2009 17:45:03 Originally by: Tiny Tove Can you not imagine how many dead crybabies would result from this? We used to be able to remote rep belt rats and turn red to everybody for 15 minutes. Anybody stupid enough to take a shot at you was swiftly despatched. ahhhh, those days. It's so dumb, the bears scream out for chances to shoot, and do you know how many take those opportunities when offered? Almost none. And of those that do, it nearly always goes **** up for them, and they come on here crying for less chances to get shot at. That's how it became ok for us to salvage wrecks, because historically we could only salvage empty wrecks, forcing us to empty them to salvage them, "forcing" the bears to shut at our salvage ships which quickly despatched their Vexor Usually With Lazers. So yes. Do it. I support your plan, and any other plan that gives bears opportunities to hang themselves with ever shorter pieces of rope. Top Idea. why flame if you seem to agree with it? despite the slack jaw attitude present in your type? The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.28 17:48:00 - [28] Edited by: Tiny Tove on 28/07/2009 17:48:44 Originally by: Rawbin Hood you just here to flame? No, I came to tell you why I and pretty much every other hisec grieftard would quite like to live under your proposal. More things to shoot at that cry when you shoot back is better than less things to shoot at that cry when you shoot back. CCP go to great lengths to protect whiney carebears from themselves and their own emorage, because frankly I imagine they're sick to the back teeth of carebears shooting themselves in the foot with every game mechanic at their disposal.
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.07.28 17:50:00 - [29] Originally by: Rawbin Hood why flame if you seem to agree with it? despite the slack jaw attitude present in your type? edit p.s.: or did you just have a fail cake I don't know who to blame for you inability to process information to determine the natural, logical and only inevitable outcome from your proposal.
Rawbin Hood	Posted - 2009.07.28 17:55:00 - [30] Originally by: Tiny Tove Edited by: Tiny Tove on 28/07/2009 17:48:44 Originally by: Rawbin Hood you just here to flame? No, I came to tell you why I and pretty much every other hisec grieftard would quite like to live under your proposal. More things to shoot at that cry when you shoot back is better than less things to shoot at that cry when you shoot back. CCP go to great lengths to protect whiney carebears from themselves and their own emorage, because frankly I imagine they're sick to the back teeth of carebears shooting themselves in the foot with every game mechanic at their disposal. mmhmmm Originally by: Tiny Tove Originally by: Rawbin Hood why flame if you seem to agree with it? despite the slack jaw attitude present in your type? edit p.s.: or did you just have a fail cake I don't know who to blame for you inability to process information to determine the natural, logical and only inevitable outcome from your proposal. yeah it seems one of those carebears you refer to bit you back big time The Movement Because the human race can do better as a whole (Despite these Forums... they don't count)

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