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Brea Tharen
Minmatar Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:37:00 -
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People have been attacking my credibility so I'll do an objective assessment of the ten most visible and capable merc groups currently active.
Taking input on who I should track. Once i get a list of ten, I'll be tracking total wars, kills per day, actual WAR TARGET kills per day, and other stats that people might think need watching.
A lot of people have been flaming me but I ignore that foolishness. I'm interested in the facts here, and I think the facts are going to bear out some truths regarding who the real top group of mercs are.
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Brea Tharen
Minmatar Red Hand Squadron
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:38:00 -
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reserving this spot so that peopel can't flame my stats down to the second page
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Bibbleibble
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:38:00 -
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In before Noir. ________________________________________________ For changes to Minmatar Battleships click here (Now with added summary!) |
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Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:44:00 -
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Heh
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Jonny 101
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:49:00 -
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This thread is boring, let's all go click my link and bid on the object for sale instead, that's much more fun!
Kublai for sale |
Faekurias
Raptus Regalitor
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:50:00 -
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Heh, Noir. Those other guys Noir. Some random C&P pubbies Noir. Logistical Nightmare Noir . Noir. noir.
Are there actually more viable merc outfits right now? -------------------------
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:55:00 -
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Royal Hiigaran Navy number eleven all the way.
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy number eleven all the way.
I would make you guys in the top10 just because of the cool name ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Jonny 101
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny 101 on 28/07/2009 21:01:07
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy number eleven all the way.
I would make you guys in the top10 just because of the cool name
But i've fought them, and know better.
Edit: By fought I do mean chased them around listening to them talk smack and whine like little girls.
Kublai for sale |
Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny 101 Edited by: Jonny 101 on 28/07/2009 21:01:07
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy number eleven all the way.
I would make you guys in the top10 just because of the cool name
But i've fought them, and know better.
Edit: By fought I do mean chased them around listening to them talk smack and whine like little girls.
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Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Jared D'Uroth
Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:04:00 -
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My dearest Brea, the amount of value derived from hiring a Merc Corp can only be judged by the client. Therefore, your assessment is invalid and nonobjective and bad. And you should feel bad. ===
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Insurgo Malvir No, but acting like i want + pirate's positive standing = he don't pod me.
Logical Fallacy detected
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Dawts
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dawts on 28/07/2009 21:12:37 This thread fails to deliver.
Edit: Because I'm curious what happened to atomic penguins and "this will be dealt with"?
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:37:00 -
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Any "top 10" stack ranking system is not really going to be very useful. Different merc groups are more or less effective at specific goals, target sizes, types, etc. There's no single criteria by which you could effectively rank them.
Killboard - Declarations of War Podcast |
Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.28 21:39:00 -
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If people are attacking your credibility, then do something in-game to earn it. The forums are really not the place to earn it. All you're going to find here are an overabundance of trolls who serve no practical purpose other than to rummage through the forums spamming threads with unconstructive posts usually relating to nothing more than a personal attack against one poster or another.
As an aside....I've been gone for two years or so, but what you're trying is nothing new. The more things change...the more they stay the same, right?
As for mercenaries....I don't know what's new, but lemme ask this:
Is Vale Heavy Industries still around? What about MCREW? MCREW has reformed under the old leadership - they should be near the top of your list too.
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Lucia Antonius
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Posted - 2009.07.28 22:25:00 -
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Dear Ms. Tharen
I'm quite sure that this public message is totally worthless attempt to end you continuos free - unfortunately annoying - bumps for mercenary corporations. Thanks for advertising Noir. anyway...
Primary point in mercenaries business is customer satisfaction not your satisfaction. For mercenary corporations/alliances it's totally irrelevant what your (or anybody else's here in C+P, excluding customers ofcourse) opinion is.
Employers' needs are not always bound to killboard results (but you already know that, don't you?). For example some may just want that certain people do not hang around in certain area.
With kind regards, Lucia Antonius
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.28 22:30:00 -
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Posting in the little-troll-that-could's first anti merc troll OP.
Morsus Mihi needs more loving Brea, and you seemed to have more luck with them. ---
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |
Ta'jek
Angels Of Death EVE Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.28 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ta''jek on 28/07/2009 22:33:34 the only stat that really matters is whether the contract was completed to the satisfaction of the employer of the merc group. By using KB stats it doesn't do justice to groups like Logistical Nightmare who offer more then just killing WT's. If the goal of the contract is to harass a group to prevent them from doing certain activities such as mining, missions etc then stats like number of kills doesn't demonstrate the effectiveness of groups that others won't engage
edit: Lucia typed it faster and said it better
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.07.28 22:44:00 -
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what a terrific idea, your credibility is under attack so naturally you should do something that requires people not thinking you're a liar/troll/idiot/non-credible person
good thinking
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Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.07.28 22:44:00 -
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There aren't really any capable Mercs right now.
I mean there's some PvP corps that dabble but the ones that claim to be Mercs now are terrible players. _______________
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Sergiiy Kortos
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2009.07.28 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Tharen
Taking input on who I should track. Once i get a list of ten, I'll be tracking total wars, kills per day, actual WAR TARGET kills per day, and other stats that people might think need watching.
Underwood Excavators - uncasolty.com - A+ merc corp - would spam on their behalf again.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.29 01:15:00 -
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Due to current lack of options, I'd like it if the skool was placed on the list. We don't do many jobs because of our size but so far we have executed each one with the expertise required.
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Tierie
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2009.07.29 11:22:00 -
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I only know of like eight merc outfits. Noir, REPO., Logistical Nightmare seem to do well with what they do.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.29 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tierie I only know of like eight merc outfits. Noir, REPO., Logistical Nightmare seem to do well with what they do.
Well that's why I asked nicely if I could be #9... To have a top 10 you need 10 corps.. I don't mind being down the bottom.. I mean I less than 10 members but 3 successful contracts already. (And the lol dec against lady that got me killed a lot, no one paid for that I was just bored)
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.29 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Tierie I only know of like eight merc outfits. Noir, REPO., Logistical Nightmare seem to do well with what they do.
Well that's why I asked nicely if I could be #9... To have a top 10 you need 10 corps.. I don't mind being down the bottom.. I mean I less than 10 members but 3 successful contracts already. (And the lol dec against lady that got me killed a lot, no one paid for that I was just bored)
Confirming the Sekret Kool Klubb are better than the self proclaimed #9 reliable mercenary corp, with a kd ratio of 4:0 over a long and drawn out battle. ----
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.29 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sergiiy Kortos
Originally by: Brea Tharen
Taking input on who I should track. Once i get a list of ten, I'll be tracking total wars, kills per day, actual WAR TARGET kills per day, and other stats that people might think need watching.
Underwood Excavators - uncasolty.com - A+ merc corp - would spam on their behalf again.
Confirming this: Solty is a massive perv that gets the job done in a professional manner. ----
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Tammin Sol
Out For Blood
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Posted - 2009.07.29 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts Edited by: Dawts on 28/07/2009 21:12:37 This thread fails to deliver.
Edit: Because I'm curious what happened to atomic penguins and "this will be dealt with"?
I think they decided to close doors and either get out of the merc business and go shoot up stuff for fun, or just decided to take an extended hiatus. Can't say where most of them ended up though (I was good friends with one of their members up until they disbanded, he's now blowing stuff up in the north I believe.)
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FASSIN TAC
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.29 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Tharen People have been attacking my credibility so I'll do an objective assessment of the ten most visible and capable merc groups currently active.
Taking input on who I should track. Once i get a list of ten, I'll be tracking total wars, kills per day, actual WAR TARGET kills per day, and other stats that people might think need watching.
A lot of people have been flaming me but I ignore that foolishness. I'm interested in the facts here, and I think the facts are going to bear out some truths regarding who the real top group of mercs are.
My god you're stupid. You have NO credibility because it's painfully obvious you have no idea what your talking about.
I read some of your other posts and hoped things would have clicked by now. The Noir guys were more than patient with your stupidity but it looks like others are going to have to point it out.
The only stat that matters is the statisfaction of the client.
KB stats DO NOT tell the tale of a contract. The merc's could be under contract to distrupt logistics or missions. These goals are equally achieved by keeping the marks in station or logged off. How prey tell do you suggest mercs record that?
I recall a Noir thread actually which I thought was great. If I remember right they were tasked with preventing anyone minning in a high sec system. Now they didn't / couldn't ( can't remember ) dec everyone so used their brains and brought in special bump ships to stop the miners. How do you record that one then?
You're a bad troll who doesn't know anything about merc work and get your facts wrong time and time again.
Please stop posting.
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Taram Caldar
GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.29 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: FASSIN TAC
I recall a Noir thread actually which I thought was great. If I remember right they were tasked with preventing anyone minning in a high sec system. Now they didn't / couldn't ( can't remember ) dec everyone so used their brains and brought in special bump ships to stop the miners. How do you record that one then?
HEHEHE AHHH Hedion... now that was a fun contract :)
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.29 22:40:00 -
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The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention all the way. We have had several jobs and failed each and every one of them.
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.07.30 06:14:00 -
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Confirming Herty is failbad ----
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