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irishFour
Mobile Meth Lab Monkeys STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2012.05.25 01:58:00 -
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I am requesting, nay demanding, an additional section of the forums. A section where we as players, members of the EVE community can post direct, well worded questions or statements with an expectation of a developers or member of ccp can respond to us.
Sometimes there is a game mechanic, concept, game play, item, role that i wish i could post, and get an official response allow me to present an example
Dear Devs, Are drones expected to be a primary weapon system for certain ships (all carriers, domi, vexor, ishtar, myrm) or are the expected to be complimentary.
To sum it up. Just give me one more section labeled, "ask a dev." A place to post reasonable questions with a basic expectation of response.
thanks
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SigmaPi
Valkyr Industries Late Night Alliance
51
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:05:00 -
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This is litterally what the CSM is for.
Send a well thought out message to one of the CSM members and he will pass it to the devs if it's not full of garbage. Just think of the amount of crap that gets posted on these forums every day - what would stop those garbage posts from being directed to CCP and then they would just ignore them. |

Shian Yang
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:06:00 -
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Greetings capsuleer,
Let's take this on basic feasibility. With over 400,000 capsuleers all having "well worded questions or statements" how quickly do you expect a reply?
There aren't 400,000 capsuleers? No, there are. And you can bet the last ISK stuck to your pod they will all believe their questions are reasonable, well worded and deserving of a direct response.
So how do you propose filtering this? We have a Council acting as our conduit in New Eden for a reason. Use them.
Regards,
Shian Yang |

Torneach
The Last Bastion
166
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:08:00 -
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Well, considering this forum's large population of trolls and whiners, I don't think this would be a good idea unless a person was somehow certified to post in that forum, or if it was heavily moderated.
Even then, a certification system could always let a troll through, and moderation is never as stringent as it needs to be. |

irishFour
Mobile Meth Lab Monkeys STR8NGE BREW
2
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:13:00 -
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Trolls would not be responded to.
and 400k capsulers dont post on the forums
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Prisoner 002929
Wulgun Wing
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:18:00 -
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SigmaPi wrote:This is litterally what the CSM is for.
Send a well thought out message to one of the CSM members and he will pass it to the devs if it's not full of garbage.
Mine and 10,000 other peoples CSM member was kicked. Now that you're all sufficiently pissed off again. Where's your new CSM chair now? Was it everything you thought it'd be?
"At first they came for mittans and I said nothing because I was not mittans. Then they came for the UI and I said nothing because nobody actually believed they could make it WORSE. Next they came for PL & Hyrda and I said nothing because I was not either. Then they came for me..."
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SigmaPi
Valkyr Industries Late Night Alliance
51
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:24:00 -
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Serves him right for trying for some divine prophecy crap. Goon's could have easilly had 2 or 3 people on the CSM if they gamed their support correctly.
I'm pretty content with the CSM as it stands. The UI is a step in the right direction, even if it's not what it needs to be. As for the rest of what you said, v0v. |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
401
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:25:00 -
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The only true 'direct line' to CCP is via your wallet, but expect a delay of 1-4 months for them to notice. "I hear what you're saying, and I'm going to let you finish, but Incarna had the best unsub threads on the forums." |

Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
185
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:35:00 -
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SigmaPi wrote:This is litterally what the CSM is for. The CSM are useless.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
782
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:39:00 -
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Unfortunately, the trolling in such a section would be terrible, as it is here (GD). The CCP folks would spend more time moderating that actually answering questions.
As to answer your proposed question: yes. Ff a ship gets a bonus to drones, then drones are their primary weapon system. |
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Shian Yang
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:39:00 -
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irishFour wrote:Trolls would not be responded to.
Greetings capsuleer,
Then how would this be different to what we have now? In case you are struggling for an answer here, it is "not at all".
Regards,
Shian Yang |

Argaral
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2012.05.25 02:47:00 -
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You talk to the developers with your wallet like the rest of us did during Incarna.
DEMANDING a section, what are you? 13 and a moron?
Take your concerns to a sub forums, like ships and modules that have confirmed dev readers and replies. They don't have to respond, but if they do they choose if and when. |

Pres Crendraven
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:06:00 -
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What about petitions? Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |

Leetha Layne
38
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Posted - 2012.05.25 03:48:00 -
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Well well snowflake you certainly deserve a separate forum where devs will be forced to answer your no doubt insightful and incisive questions, just like all the other MMOS have for example......which game was that??? |

AFK Hauler
State War Academy Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2012.05.25 04:28:00 -
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Just to be a ****, I' gonna go with...
"If Mittens was on the CSM, the UI system would not have been implemented"
Debate that. |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
1093
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:39:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:SigmaPi wrote:This is litterally what the CSM is for. The CSM are useless.
So is a random stick up until I stab you with it. The Drake is a Lie |

Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
181
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:44:00 -
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Yeah. Only CCP or CSM are authorized to ask CCP or the CSM...haven't we heard this one before...somewhere? Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |

THE L0CK
Denying You Access
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Posted - 2012.05.25 05:49:00 -
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Why do you think it takes over a week to answer a petition. Because every special little snowflake can think of the most inane question to ask and they bog down the system whereas there simply aren't enough gm's or dev's to wade through that sea, nor will there ever be. The forums are no different and their purpose is exactly what you ask of now.
No sir or ma'am, I prefer the current system where the dev's sit at their desk and do their job of improving the game while occasionally stopping by to gather feedback from us and maybe rip on a user or 2. To have them sitting around all day to answer our every little beckon is a massively horrible waste of resources and would be inefficient beyond belief. You don't hire someone with a bachelors in game design to work the help desk. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
150
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:28:00 -
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tbh I think most of my posts deserve a CCP response. |

bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:38:00 -
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SigmaPi wrote:This is litterally what the CSM is for.
Send a well thought out message to one of the CSM members and he will pass it to the devs if it's not full of garbage. Just think of the amount of crap that gets posted on these forums every day - what would stop those garbage posts from being directed to CCP and then they would just ignore them.
This
I correspond with CSM's in private mail, you can do the same. |
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Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.05.25 06:40:00 -
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irishFour wrote:I am requesting, nay demanding, an additional section of the forums. A section where we as players, members of the EVE community can post direct, well worded questions or statements with an expectation of a developers or member of ccp can respond to us.
Sometimes there is a game mechanic, concept, game play, item, role that i wish i could post, and get an official response allow me to present an example
Dear Devs, Are drones expected to be a primary weapon system for certain ships (all carriers, domi, vexor, ishtar, myrm) or are the expected to be complimentary.
To sum it up. Just give me one more section labeled, "ask a dev." A place to post reasonable questions with a basic expectation of response.
thanks
Look at the posts on the forums..
As you can see, the community is unable to post direct, well worded questions or statements to developers. |

Shian Yang
208
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Posted - 2012.05.25 08:40:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote:As you can see, the community is unable to post direct, well worded questions or statements to developers.
Greetings capsuleer Smith,
Dare I say - capsuleer irishFour's post is a prime example of this. It is a poorly conceived idea that, while it has appeal, is infeasible and will be nigh on impossible to organise appropriately. Should developers be bothered with that type of inane request?
I'd say no. These forums, along with many specific forums for ideas, questions and comments, exist. There are petitions for contacting them directly. There is the CSM if it falls outside the scope of those - a CSM that is not utilised as they could be by the player base. Not even considering the options on a simple EVE Mail to a CSM member.
All the avenues exist.
Regards,
Shian Yang |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3926
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:10:00 -
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CCP developers are not customer support.
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Tech3ZH
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2012.05.25 09:28:00 -
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Why not go for it? I demand Hilmar himself answer all questions posted in a new forum category called something like"The Kahuna Speaks". Go big... |

Darth Kilth
Clan Exiled Legends
53
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Posted - 2012.05.25 10:21:00 -
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Prisoner 002929 wrote:SigmaPi wrote:This is litterally what the CSM is for.
Send a well thought out message to one of the CSM members and he will pass it to the devs if it's not full of garbage. Mine and 10,000 other peoples CSM member was kicked. Now that you're all sufficiently pissed off again. Where's your new CSM chair now? Was it everything you thought it'd be? "At first they came for mittans and I said nothing because I was not mittans. Then they came for the UI and I said nothing because nobody actually believed they could make it WORSE. Next they came for PL & Hyrda and I said nothing because I was not either. Then they came for me..." "...And nobody said anything because nobody else was left"
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