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Cognito Ergosum
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:03:00 -
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So I have some open task slots, the POS has some open labs slots--I want to run some research on my personal BPO's. Nothing leaves the NPC station; corps BP's are locked down and mine just sit in my hanger.
I can't seem to actually research my own blueprints. Any idea why? I'm told that the location is wrong. I looked over the POS and I can't see anything that would disallow me from using it remotely, I can run all the corps jobs remotely, is it an access or permission issue that prevents personal use?
Hope someone can help, TIA for any light on this murky (for me) issue.
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Cognito Ergosum
mine just sit in my hanger.
That is the problem. The bpos have to be in a corp hangar.
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Mona X
Caldari
Polish Task Forces
C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:10:00 -
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You can't reseatch your BPs in corporation's facilities. You have to put them into corp hangar, get some corp accesses (for POSes, corp hangars and one of the wallets), train scientific networking at level 1 (although I strogly recommend 4). More deatial at EveGuides.
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Cognito Ergosum
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:14:00 -
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Fair enough--guess its just a matter of moving my BP's to corp and then out after I've worked on them--seems a little awkward tho--no other way around it?
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cognito Ergosum
Fair enough--guess its just a matter of moving my BP's to corp and then out after I've worked on them--seems a little awkward tho--no other way around it?
Nope. The BPO must either be in the lab or in a corporate hangar in a station in the same system as the POS.
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Colin Chapman
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:32:00 -
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I dont know if you have a spare hangers in the corp, but you might want to consider asking for exclusive access to one (for a fee), especially if its a high value BPO (eg Cap component, BS, Cap ship, T2) to prevent theft of high value BPO's.
Granted it doesnt prevent directors from scamming/stealing but at least you'll know who did it.
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Cognito Ergosum
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:34:00 -
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I imagine could set up a small research POS nearby; turn corp access off and run the research there--but there is no way I could remote it? I assume I would be obligated to have the BPO's in the labs with this option; not ideal but but perhaps better long term than discussing who 'owns' what.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.07.30 17:35:00 -
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All POSs are corp assets, so if you hang it (which would require the "configure starbase equipment" role if I'm not mistaken) it still would not prevent anyone else with the correct roles from going out there.
The best way I can think of if you want to do "private" research with no chance of theft (other than by the directors, which I don't think you can avoid) is for you to offer to pay for another corp office in the same system as the research POS. Then one of the directors could assign you as being based in the new office and give you (and only you) access to the corp hangar where you are based. Depending on the size of your corp this may be too large a PITA to do, though; if I remember correctly, there are three hangar options in roles; HQ, based, and "other". Other definitely covers corp hangar arrays at POSs, but it might cover all office hangars at locations other than the HQ and the location set as your base.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.30 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries
All POSs are corp assets, so if you hang it (which would require the "configure starbase equipment" role if I'm not mistaken) it still would not prevent anyone else with the correct roles from going out there.
The best way I can think of if you want to do "private" research with no chance of theft (other than by the directors, which I don't think you can avoid) is for you to offer to pay for another corp office in the same system as the research POS. Then one of the directors could assign you as being based in the new office and give you (and only you) access to the corp hangar where you are based. Depending on the size of your corp this may be too large a PITA to do, though; if I remember correctly, there are three hangar options in roles; HQ, based, and "other". Other definitely covers corp hangar arrays at POSs, but it might cover all office hangars at locations other than the HQ and the location set as your base.
Other is the catch all and allows access to any divisional hanger outside HQ and based at, its used for if you need someone to have access at division 5 at base A and B but not at base C. |
Cognito Ergosum
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.07.30 18:18:00 -
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Certainly harder than I thought. EVE preps one to be paranoid and I though minimizing my assest exposure would be the smart thing--in the end it's in corpies we trust after all I guess
Thanks for all the replies folks
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Callista Omenswarm
Astronautical Engineering
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Posted - 2009.07.30 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Other definitely covers corp hangar arrays at POSs, but it might cover all office hangars at locations other than the HQ and the location set as your base.
You only need query access on the hangar at the Lab though, so assigning a corpie with that under 'other' isn't too much of an issue.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.30 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Callista Omenswarm
Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Other definitely covers corp hangar arrays at POSs, but it might cover all office hangars at locations other than the HQ and the location set as your base.
You only need query access on the hangar at the Lab though, so assigning a corpie with that under 'other' isn't too much of an issue.
Yep, the only larger issue is that once you give certain access to install jobs from, anyone with like access even at a different hanger has the ability to cancel them as well.
Sorta a giant issue IMHO, more granular control over who has access to what on the SnI corporate page would be nice. |
Callista Omenswarm
Astronautical Engineering
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Posted - 2009.07.30 20:37:00 -
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True but with the hangars locked and the fact it doesn't free up the slot, there's no benefit to cancelling other jobs other than griefing.
The problem as I see it is there's no log of this, so bickering corp members can complain that MemberX is always cancelling their jobs and you can't prove either way and so know if you need to punish/boot MemberX or if the others are just trying to get them booted.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.07.30 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Callista Omenswarm
True but with the hangars locked and the fact it doesn't free up the slot, there's no benefit to cancelling other jobs other than griefing.
The problem as I see it is there's no log of this, so bickering corp members can complain that MemberX is always cancelling their jobs and you can't prove either way and so know if you need to punish/boot MemberX or if the others are just trying to get them booted.
Having slot jobs and transactional logs of them added to the API would be a blessing for that. |
Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.07.31 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Callista Omenswarm
there's no benefit to cancelling other jobs other than griefing.
True, but people are ****s.
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